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    RedWizardGuy

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    Default The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    I am running this game for the second time, though last time it was a gestalt PF1e game, and this time it is in the original 3.5 single track. Last time I ran this it lasted three years and the characters went from level 21 to 24, though the module takes you to level 30. Unfortunately, the prior game died a slow death in the end.

    I will put the information about the module in the next day or so into this post, but basically it has been a war against the drow since level 1, so you would have an established hatred of them.

    I have to warn that I am running a lot of games, so I tend to get to update them on the slow side, only every two to three days.

    1. What game system are you running (D&D, Call of Cthulu, Palladium, GURPS, etc.), and if applicable what edition (Original, Classic, Revised, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 10th, etc.)?
    3.5
    2. What 'type' or variant of game will it be (i.e. "Shadow Chasers" or "Agents of Psi" for d20 Modern)? What is the setting for the game (eg. historic period, published or homebrewed campaign setting, alternate reality, modern world, etc.)?
    Published module, the third in the series, each of which covers ten levels.
    3. How many Players are you looking for? Will you be taking alternates, and if so, how many?
    Samduke plus three others.
    4. What's the gaming medium (OOTS, chat, e-mail etc.)?
    Forums
    5. What is the characters' starting status (i.e. experience level)?
    Level 21
    6. How much gold or other starting funds will the characters begin with?
    Standard WBL
    7. Are there any particular character classes, professions, orders, etc. that you want... or do not want? What are your rules on 'prestige' and/or homebrewed classes?
    Any official 3.5 material is allowed.
    8. What races, subraces, species, etc. are allowed for your game? Will you allow homebrewed races or species? 'Prestige' races or species?
    Anything except drow is allowed, using normal level adjustment.
    9. By what method should Players generate their attributes/ability scores and Hit Points?
    Hit points are maximum.
    Attributes are 10+1d8 seven times, pick the best six rolls. Roll the whole thing twice, and take the best set.
    10. Does your game use alignment? What are your restrictions, if so?
    Any alignment is allowed, as long as you have a reason to fight the drow.
    11. Do you allow multi-classing, or have any particular rules in regards to it?
    No multiclassing penalties.
    12. Will you be doing all of the die rolling during the course of the game? Will die rolls be altered, or left to the honor system? If players can make die rolls, which ones do they make, how should they make the rolls, and how should they report them?
    I will do mine, you do yours.
    13. Are there any homebrewed or optional/variant rules that your Players should know about? If so, list and explain them, or provide relevant links to learn about these new rules.
    One flaw for a feat. Two traits.
    ELephant in the Room rules are in effect.
    No pregame item creation. You can combine items at +50% of lesser cost as normal.
    I don't want anything cheesy. So no using efreeti to get free stat bonuses for example. The game will be low optimisation.
    14. Is a character background required? If so, how big? Are you looking for anything in particular (i.e. the backgrounds all ending up with the characters in the same city)?
    Keep it skirt length. Have a reason to hate the drow, as the previous modules have you fighting the drow a lot.
    15. Does your game involve a lot of hack & slash, puzzle solving, roleplaying, or a combination of the above?
    It is a lot of combat, but a bit of a mix of all of the above, as it is a published module.
    16. Are your Players restricted to particular rulebooks and supplements, or will you be allowing access to non-standard material? What sources can Players use for their characters?
    Any official 3.5 material is allowed.
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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    @Paradox26
    Standard WBL:975,000 gp

    #13. Are Traits allowed ?

    Attributes are 10+1d8 seven times, pick the best six rolls. Roll the whole thing twice, and take the best set.

    Set 1:
    1:(1d8+10)[18]
    2:(1d8+10)[11]
    3:(1d8+10)[12]
    4:(1d8+10)[16]
    5:(1d8+10)[11]
    6:(1d8+10)[16]
    7:(1d8+10)[18]

    Set 2:
    1:(1d8+10)[18]
    2:(1d8+10)[17]
    3:(1d8+10)[16]
    4:(1d8+10)[11]
    5:(1d8+10)[12]
    6:(1d8+10)[13]
    7:(1d8+10)[12]
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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    Two traits are allowed. I will put that into the 16.

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    are dragon/dungeon magazines allowed ?

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    RedWizardGuy

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    Yes to all of the above.

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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    Set 1:
    (1d10+8)[11]
    (1d10+8)[15]
    (1d10+8)[18]
    (1d10+8)[18]
    (1d10+8)[12]
    (1d10+8)[17]
    (1d10+8)[17]

    Set 2:
    (1d10+8)[9]
    (1d10+8)[14]
    (1d10+8)[18]
    (1d10+8)[17]
    (1d10+8)[16]
    (1d10+8)[13]
    (1d10+8)[17]


    Whoops, messed those up. Lemme go redo those
    Last edited by BloodyMagpie; 2024-02-05 at 09:58 AM. Reason: Messed up rolls

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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    Well, lets us see what the dice gods favor...

    Spoiler: Oh ye gods of chance, hear my call...
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    Set 1:
    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[17]

    Set 2:
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[15]


    Set 2 Pls, am thinking Half Orc Ranger, a hunter of things deep and dark.
    Last edited by Ancient; 2024-02-05 at 10:00 AM.

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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    Try this again.
    Set 1:
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[17]


    Set 2:
    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[16]

    Edit: Okay, that's more like it. I'm leaning towards a Dwarven Paladin or Cleric.
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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    I normally don't apply to epic games but because this is low-powered I give it a try.

    Spoiler: Rolls
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    Set 1:
    1. (1d8+10)[12]
    2. (1d8+10)[12]
    3. (1d8+10)[17]
    4. (1d8+10)[12]
    5. (1d8+10)[12]
    6. (1d8+10)[11]
    7. (1d8+10)[13]

    Set 2:
    1. (1d8+10)[11]
    2. (1d8+10)[15]
    3. (1d8+10)[18]
    4. (1d8+10)[17]
    5. (1d8+10)[14]
    6. (1d8+10)[15]
    7. (1d8+10)[12]
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    No no no, not speaking while fighting. Speaking with the fighting!

    That rabite monk dive-blobbing you in the face, followed by hooking teeth into your belt and suplexing you is a woefully poorly understood way of remarking on how nice the weather is.

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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    Planning to revisit Erut, a psionic Grimlock PC I had used for a play-by-post of City of the Spider Queen nearly 20 years ago -- just dug up the old emails and couldn't believe it's been that long. Would Psychic Rogue be allowed? It was official at one point, though it's long since been deleted from WotC's site. If not, I could always use Lurk or just a Psion/Rogue multiclass.

    Set 1
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[14]

    Set 2
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    Last edited by Rilem; 2024-02-05 at 10:28 AM. Reason: added PC description

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    Imp

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    I may not have time to make a sheet for this but I’ll see. I was in the previous game but I should be able to keep up better on the forum and with 3.5. I’m think to update a Havoc Mage.

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    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[14]

    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[11]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilem View Post
    Planning to revisit Erut, a psionic Grimlock PC I had used for a play-by-post of City of the Spider Queen nearly 20 years ago -- just dug up the old emails and couldn't believe it's been that long. Would Psychic Rogue be allowed? It was official at one point, though it's long since been deleted from WotC's site. If not, I could always use Lurk or just a Psion/Rogue multiclass.

    Set 1
    [roll0]
    [roll1]
    [roll2]
    [roll3]
    [roll4]
    [roll5]
    [roll6]

    Set 2
    [roll7]
    [roll8]
    [roll9]
    [roll10]
    [roll11]
    [roll12]
    [roll13]
    i have a pdf for it - The Mind's Eye
    Psychic Rogue
    Alternative Psionic Class (v.3.5)

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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilem View Post
    Planning to revisit Erut, a psionic Grimlock PC I had used for a play-by-post of City of the Spider Queen nearly 20 years ago -- just dug up the old emails and couldn't believe it's been that long. Would Psychic Rogue be allowed? It was official at one point, though it's long since been deleted from WotC's site. If not, I could always use Lurk or just a Psion/Rogue multiclass.
    Psychic rogue is okay if you can find a link to it for me to check it over.

    EDIT: I have been directed to it, so yes the psychic rogue is fine. It looks like a nice class.
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    I will build a Something - Edited
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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    Interesting, wonder if I'll roll well.

    Spoiler: rolls
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    Set 1
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[15]

    set 2
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[12]

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    Count me interested.

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    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[18]

    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[11]


    Can't complain about those rolls! No one hates the Drow like a Dwarf, so maybe some kind of Runesmith gish?
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    Rolling...

    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[11]

    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[14]


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    Interested as either a Duergar totemist+Cleric of Morgadin-> Sapphire Hierarch or an elven Noctumancer

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    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[15]
    [Roll1d8+10[/roll]


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    (1d8+10)[15]
    [Roll1d8+10[/roll]
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    Definite interest. I will avoid reading my copies of this to maintain separation of knowledge.


    The third one, anyway. I'll probably reread the first two books for ideas...lol
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    Spoiler: Flubbed Macro 1 and 2
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    (1d8+10)[12]


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    Nowadays I typically prefer Gestalt when it comes to 3.5, and I don't care for high-level play. But if this is meant to be low-optimization... that's a game I can definitely play. Now, to consult the dice gods!

    Set 1:
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[18]

    Set 2:
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[11]

    Total 1: 12 14 17 17 18 18

    Total 2: 12 14 16 17 18 18

    ...Well, I think I'll take the first one. That is an impressive set, and it'll work with pretty much anything I set my mind to. As for build... well, there aren't a lot of epic builds I've made, and the only one I can remember for 3.5 is a Psychic Warrior going into Psychic Weapon Master, which is the best way I know of to make a scythe work. She'd previously been an Erinyes, but I can make it work as a human - the LA for Erinyes would be far too restrictive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk Raven View Post
    Nowadays I typically prefer Gestalt when it comes to 3.5, and I don't care for high-level play. But if this is meant to be low-optimization... that's a game I can definitely play. Now, to consult the dice gods!

    Set 1:
    [roll0]
    [roll1]
    [roll2]
    [roll3]
    [roll4]
    [roll5]
    [roll6]

    Set 2:
    [roll7]
    [roll8]
    [roll9]
    [roll10]
    [roll11]
    [roll12]
    [roll13]

    Total 1: 12 14 17 17 18 18

    Total 2: 12 14 16 17 18 18

    ...Well, I think I'll take the first one. That is an impressive set, and it'll work with pretty much anything I set my mind to. As for build... well, there aren't a lot of epic builds I've made, and the only one I can remember for 3.5 is a Psychic Warrior going into Psychic Weapon Master, which is the best way I know of to make a scythe work. She'd previously been an Erinyes, but I can make it work as a human - the LA for Erinyes would be far too restrictive.
    wow i want rolls like that.. lol

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    Ooooh! Interested!

    Dice Gods favor me!

    (1d8+10)[17]
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[13]

    (1d8+10)[11]
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    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[13]


    Low Powered indeed!

    I've really wanted to roll up a sublime chord, I think I can do this!
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    Rolling my sets:

    set1:
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[12]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[12]


    set2:
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[11]

    EDIT: So triple 18s, hurray!!, Will run a Rogue build or that will be my first option
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    Question- is Trickster Spellthief acceptable? I think it was Dragon Magazine, not WotC, originally. If so, I will go with a Spellthief 7+Shadowcaster 4-> Noctumancer 10. The concept being an Elf who lost her family to Drow raids. Otherwise, a Duergar Cleric+Totemist->Sapphire Hierarch with a similar high concept. I will flesh out details once I have a build.
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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    Let's see what the dice gods offer.

    Set 1

    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[14]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[15]

    Set 2

    (1d8+10)[13]
    (1d8+10)[15]
    (1d8+10)[16]
    (1d8+10)[18]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[11]
    (1d8+10)[18]

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    I'm a bit intrigued what low op epic looks like, so why not. Suboptimal Druid here I come.

    Quote Originally Posted by Talivan View Post
    EDIT: So triple 18s, hurray!!, Will run a Rogue build or that will be my first option
    That's quadruple 18.
    Last edited by watupwithdat; 2024-02-05 at 04:44 PM.

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    Had a vague memory of being able to edit in the dice rolls, but seems not.

    Set uno
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    Set dos
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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    I just can't help myself from a high level game about fighting Elves, before seeing rolls, I'm thinking either a Paly/Ranger, warblade, or some flavor of orcish berserker

    Spoiler: Set 1
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    Spoiler: Set 2
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    Once you go blue, nothing else will do. Once you go Quarian...someone will die.

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    Default Re: The Drow War (Epic 3.5)

    @paradox26
    RE:
    13. Are there any homebrewed or optional/variant rules that your Players should know about? If so, list and explain them, or provide relevant links to learn about these new rules.

    No pregame item creation. You can combine items at +50% of lesser cost as normal.
    what this does not exactly cover, I will ask about.

    Can I take an magic item , reverse engineer it to see what things cost like, (IE grants you the Combat Reflexes feat) - would you allow that?

    and following that up there is a sidebar that makes mention of adding a feat to an item for 10k - would you allow that ?

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