Tome of Radiance: Mastering the Power of Love and Justice

[Dragonus45]

So a kaioken illumination would be right out then?

No, I don't actually like DBZ. I do enjoy watch the abridged series thought. It's an absolute riot.

I love them both, but i grew up on DBZ so i guess i was inoculated against its idiocy.

[Regalus]

Color me interested in this game.

Would calling my Empath's illumination in which he calls upon the collective inner strength and passion of his allies into a single orb of highly volatile friendship five times his size a Spirit Bomb be out of bounds as well?

[Forrestfire]

Color me interested in this game.

Would calling my Empath's illumination in which he calls upon the collective inner strength and passion of his allies into a single orb of highly volatile friendship five times his size a Spirit Bomb be out of bounds as well?

I think that'd be par the course, actually

[Falcon777]

Color me interested in this game.

Would calling my Empath's illumination in which he calls upon the collective inner strength and passion of his allies into a single orb of highly volatile friendship five times his size a Spirit Bomb be out of bounds as well?

Thank God that's not actually a component of Illuminations.

[Lix Lorn]

Shut up and read another prestige class

Yessir.

Effect: The Bringer of Twilight gains the Sneak Attack ability of a Rogue of her Class Level when attacking a flat-footed target with her Device. If a Bringer of Twilight gets a sneak attack bonus from another source, the bonuses on damage stack. Duskblade damage does full damage against creatures that would be immune to sneak attack, like constructs and undead.

Only problem I noticed.
If I have four levels of Bringer of Twilight and four Rogue levels, and I shiv a golem, do I do 2d6 sneak attack or 4d6?
AKA, does this upgrade existing sneak attack?

[Snowfire]

Yessir.


Only problem I noticed.
If I have four levels of Bringer of Twilight and four Rogue levels, and I shiv a golem, do I do 2d6 sneak attack or 4d6?
AKA, does this upgrade existing sneak attack?

Ah.

Hmm.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I have no idea? I'm inclined to say no, but...

I'll think about it and get back to you after I sleep.

Also, any general thoughts in regards to Bringer of Twilight? I'm curious.

[sreservoir]

I'd interpret it as 2d6, given it specifies "Duskblade damage" and not something to the effect of "your sneak attack damage" (which it is).

make something up ;)

[Lix Lorn]

Ah.

Hmm.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I have no idea? I'm inclined to say no, but...

I'll think about it and get back to you after I sleep.

Also, any general thoughts in regards to Bringer of Twilight? I'm curious.

No is the sensible reply, just in case there's an abusive combo. xD

It's interesting. Very grey.

[AmberVael]

No is the sensible reply, just in case there's an abusive combo. xD

It's interesting. Very grey.

There really isn't one. There are plenty of prestige classes and other classes that provide sneak attack- they all stack. If someone was gonna break, it already did. So don't worry about it.

[Snowfire]

It's interesting. Very grey.

I'll admit, grey is as dark as you'll ever really see me go. Dark grey sometimes, but still only grey. Knight of the Dim Star will be fun to see reactions to I think. As it's rather more grey, if in a very particular fashion.

[Lix Lorn]

There really isn't one. There are plenty of prestige classes and other classes that provide sneak attack- they all stack. If someone was gonna break, it already did. So don't worry about it.

No, it's not the stacking I mean, it's converting all sneak attack to work on constructs that could be broken.

I'll admit, grey is as dark as you'll ever really see me go. Dark grey sometimes, but still only grey. Knight of the Dim Star will be fun to see reactions to I think. As it's rather more grey, if in a very particular fashion.

Pure black is generally boring.

[NineThePuma]

Golem Strike, weapon crystal of destruction, etc.

There are already ways of dealing with it. the prerequisites are steep enough to make it not a good dip for a pure rogue.

[caledscratcher]

Given my fascination with both Pathfinder (which I play very infrequently because of moderately long distances between people playing causing trouble) and ToR (which the current DM of my 3.5e group has banned because of his attempts to keep everything relatively simple and manageable), I would want to be involved with a PF ToR PBP more than acronyms seem to want to be involved in my post. In other words, on a level far beyond mortal comprehension.

[Falcon777]

Well, there's definitely interest for a game here on this forum. Anyone willing to that is experienced? I've only reached level three in my first pbp game here on these boards, so I'd probably not be a good dm.

[Snowfire]

Eh, if Dragonus doesn't, I will. Any requests as to game tenor/starting level?

[vasharanpaladin]

...Gah. I'd do something but my interest tends to murder PbP games...

[Falcon777]

I'd say it'd be interesting to start somewhere between level 5 and 10. Although I'd be perfectly happy to start at level one too.

As to tenor....I'd say it'd be interesting for the setting to be one of high fantasy where Lightwielders are somewhat rare, though their existence is known and documented. Perhaps Ebberon or Forgotten Realms for a world?

[Snowfire]

I'd say it'd be interesting to start somewhere between level 5 and 10. Although I'd be perfectly happy to start at level one too.

As to tenor....I'd say it'd be interesting for the setting to be one of high fantasy where Lightwielders are somewhat rare, though their existence is known and documented. Perhaps Ebberon or Forgotten Realms for a world?

Heh. Hehehehe.

Well, if Dragonus doesn't throw something up - and tell us about it - then I'll put something together. Got an old setting that I've never run here before that should fit the bill just fine.

[Falcon777]

That almost sounds like an evil laugh of someone who's about to torture someone else.

lol.

[Snowfire]

That almost sounds like an evil laugh of someone who's about to torture someone else.

lol.

Really? Oh.

[Qwertystop]

Eh, if Dragonus doesn't, I will. Any requests as to game tenor/starting level?

Level... Low enough that there's lots of room to grow, but not so low you can't do anything.

Rephrasing: I want to feel like I'm just starting out. Often, first-level D&D with classes that have magic or magic-like things feels like you're not even out of your initial training (or whatever the equivalent is for a class). This system only really has that for Champions - Stargazers have four Illuminations, Empaths have two Personas with two Illuminations each, but Champions have only one Illumination and no Cartridges - all they have going for them is the chassis, and at first level, that's not much.


What's meant by tenor?

[Snowfire]

Level... Low enough that there's lots of room to grow, but not so low you can't do anything.

Rephrasing: I want to feel like I'm just starting out. Often, first-level D&D with classes that have magic or magic-like things feels like you're not even out of your initial training (or whatever the equivalent is for a class). This system only really has that for Champions - Stargazers have four Illuminations, Empaths have two Personas with two Illuminations each, but Champions have only one Illumination and no Cartridges - all they have going for them is the chassis, and at first level, that's not much.


What's meant by tenor?

I get you, and I can work with it. And by tenor I mean the general feel of the game, that sort of thing.

[Lix Lorn]

Games are fun I am likely interested.

[Snowfire]

Games are fun I am likely interested.

Even if I run it?

[NineThePuma]

I want Grim Dark 40k style tone with magical girls and we can be all like "FRIENDSHIP FOR THE FRIENDSHIP GOD!" and be grizzly angry magical girls.

[Lix Lorn]

Maybe. How evil are you?

[Snowfire]

Maybe. How evil are you?

Which type of evil we talking here Lixie?

I want Grim Dark 40k style tone with magical girls and we can be all like "FRIENDSHIP FOR THE FRIENDSHIP GOD!" and be grizzly angry magical girls.

.....

I'm currently stuck somewhere between bemused rejection and hysterical laughter regarding that comment. So I'ma just gonna let it slide by unless you clarify it as being actually serious.

Tell you what, I'll give Dragonus until the end of the week to put something together (by which I mean Sunday) and then if we have nothing by then I'll throw something together.

For those of you who have seen my Light of Amber universe, this will not be it. That's not to say that you won't be out to save the world (or possibly multiverse), but that there's going to be a lot less in the way of help.

I'm currently thinking somewhere in the level 3-5 bracket as a starting point. Progression will be reasonably quick, combats will be no-holds-barred brutal - but beatable in truly heroic fashion - and somewhere along the line I'll probably kick the Mythic stuff I built for ToR into the game. It could use a playtest

[NineThePuma]

I'm currently stuck somewhere between bemused rejection and hysterical laughter regarding that comment. So I'ma just gonna let it slide by unless you clarify it as being actually serious.

It's entirely serious. I want a jokey Grim dark campaign that tries to act super dark but is so adorably awkward and bad at it that it's hysterical laughter inducing.

[Snowfire]

It's entirely serious. I want a jokey Grim dark campaign that tries to act super dark but is so adorably awkward and bad at it that it's hysterical laughter inducing.

Ah. Wrong DM for that sort of thing I'm afraid. Sorry.

[Qwertystop]

I get you, and I can work with it. And by tenor I mean the general feel of the game, that sort of thing.

Okay, then. Politicking not required (fine with it being an option, but having a party face or two should be enough). Maybe the perspective on Light that points out that the PEP can be horribly fatal? That is, the yin-yang, each-has-a-little-of-the-other view? That's really secondary, though.