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2012-12-08, 09:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Color connotations?
I'm working on a spectrum-themed martial discipline, but I want to break away some from the traditional "Red is Fire, Orange is Acid, etc." of D&D's prismatic spells.
So, what significance do the prismatic colors (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet) hold? I mean things like Disintegrate being a green ray, or what have you. I'm mainly looking for associations within D&D, but other sources aren't out of place.Last edited by Agent_0042; 2012-12-08 at 09:23 PM.
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2012-12-08, 11:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Color connotations?
You could go with the fact that red seems to be associated with evil, blue and gold with good, and green with nature.
Also, there's a really high-quality fantasy series (The Children Of Man, Elizabeth C Mock) that has magic based on the color of the spectrum. The associations are:
Red magic heals or kills, also one of the protagonists possesses a rare strain of red that lets her affect other people's thoughts or emotions.
Orange magic is the magic of law, justice, and fire, with applications in tracking, binding, and the determination of truth, but it can also be used to enslave in evil hands.
Green is the magic of life itself. In addition to serving as the fuel for the other forms, a green mage can vitalize plants and animals, or drain the life from a region and make everything in it die.
Blue is the most confusing magic, essentially behaving as a sentient force. In small traces, it grants intuition about what to do next, while it can use those strongly attuned to it to speak prophecies about the future. It can also randomly manifest other powers if it needs to.
Yellow is the magic of art, performance, and illusion. Yellow mages can manipulate the emotions of their audiences, or construct powerful illusions to make themselves, or other things, appear to be what they are not.
Puple magic grants power over space and time. Purple spatial mages, or "poppers", can teleport to any location they've already visited. Purple temporal mages, called "steppers", can actually travel back in time. (This doesn't grant the ability to alter the past, the stepper will only exist as a sort of ghost, invisible to others and with no physical substance.)
There are also two other kinds of magic that sort of break the rules, black and grey.
Black magic is the corruption of all the other colors. Unlike the six color magics, which are morally neutral, black is inherently and always evil. However, black does grant considerable power, especially in Children of Man because of its ability to bypass one of the setting's main restrictions. Ever since the color magics were created (by the Shattering of what was once light magic, the unified power of all colors), no person has been able to weild all the colors of magic. But because black touches and taints every power, it can duplicate most of what you can do with the other colors. For example, you can use black to teleport even if you have no skill with purple.
Grey magic is even weirder. The explanation of what it is and how it works is a major plot point, so I won't spoil it here. Read the book if you want to know!Prince Fraternal of Pudding, Snuzzlepal, Feezy Squeez Lover, MP, Member of The Most Noble And Ancient Order Of St. George, King of Gae Parabolae.
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2012-12-09, 12:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Color connotations?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that people usually visualized Acid as green in D&D. Blue = ice is another sterotypical association, and black = necromancy/unholy magic, with white = holy magic.
ReaderAt2046: my understanding is that Agent_0042 is looking for the stereotypes in D&D, so as to avoid them.
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2012-12-09, 01:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well in magic the gathering they have the color wheel which basicly works like this (least it’s supposed to).
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You could draw inspiration from this, or copy it etc.
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You could easily split the various spell lists up between these five colors. Heck some could even be “gold” and take on properties of two or more colors.Last edited by TheThan; 2012-12-09 at 01:38 AM.
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2012-12-09, 01:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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These are just off the top of my head and highly influenced by the fact that I grew up in a Western society.
Red: Blood, life, passion, anger, violence, sweetness, danger, change
Orange: Autumn, fading, death, warmth, fire, planning, survival
Yellow: Heat, sun, spring, flowers, women
Green: Nature, spring, wildness, peace
Blue: Water, calm, relaxation, death, cold, night, ice, winter
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2012-12-09, 05:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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I developed a heraldic system for colours in a campaign once, I'll just throw the quick version in here:
Black/Sable: Moral toughness, physical endurance, ruthlessness.
Blue, dark/Sea: Mysteries, danger, reason
Blue, light/Sky: Air, vision, beauty
Green: Youth/growth, pride, honesty
Orange: A taboo colour, associated with magic-induced calamity
Red: Power, dominance, activity
Violet: Magic, secrets, dreaming
White/Silver: Nobility, purity, death
Yellow/Gold: Royalty, ancientry, wealthMy D&D 5th ed. Druid Handbook
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2012-12-09, 10:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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I don't know if this is any use to you, but in medieval astrology / heraldry, the seven heraldic tinctures are related to the seven planets.
Argent (silver or white): the moon
Purpure (purple): Mercury
Vert (green): Venus
Or (gold or yellow): the sun
Gules (red): Mars
Azure (blue): Jupiter
Sable (black): Saturn
(Yes, the sun and the moon are planets, and the earth is not. The word "planet" originally meant a wandering light in the sky.)
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2012-12-09, 12:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Right, but Prismatic Spray (which is what I'm building this discipline around), and by extension the other Prismatic spells, are set up so that:
- Red - fire damage
- Orange - acid damage
- Yellow - electric damage
- Green - poison
- Blue - petrification
- Indigo - insanity
- Violet - plane shifting
Why? No reason. Gygax or a player choose it to be so, and it's been kept that way ever since for legacy reasons.
ReaderAt2046: my understanding is that Agent_0042 is looking for the stereotypes in D&D, so as to avoid them.
@Everyone else: Thanks for the responses, though to be clear I'm specifically looking for ROYGBIV.Last edited by Agent_0042; 2012-12-09 at 12:24 PM.
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2012-12-09, 01:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Red - physical / blood
- Orange - fire / sunlight
- Yellow - poison
- Green - acid
- Blue - lightning
- Indigo - cold / deathly
- Violet - psychic / illusory
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2012-12-09, 03:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm rather surprised no one's mentioned the emotional spectrum from the Green Lantern comics, though I suppose it might be harder to build martial classes focused on these emotions. The emotions and ways you might make them into a martial class are:
Red-Rage (first thing that comes to mind is barbarian)
Orange-Greed (Someone focused on disarming/destroying his opponents weapons/armor: "If I can't have it, no one can!")
Yellow-Fear (Attacks cause fear effects against their target)
Green-Willpower (Focused on dealing as much damage as quickly as possible)
Blue-Hope (Best at fighting in a group and supplying bonuses to their allies)
Indigo-Compassion (Deals nonlethal damage, calms emotions, and always gets Diplomacy as a class skill)
Violet-Love (Enters physical combat as a last resort, can make touch attacks that charm person)
However you may want to do something a little more original. I think everyone else's suggestions are far better in that respect.Yes my name is misspelled. No I don't care. There, problem solved.
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Here's something I just googled up...
Red – Strength, health, energy, power, the will, attracting power, lust, conquer fears, moon blood, courage, survival, sex, passion.
Pink – love, friendship, harmony, affection, tenderness, spiritual love, caring, loving yourself, healing emotions, good will.
Yellow – intellect, concentration, creativity, inspiration, thinking, memory, learning, communication, new beginnings, logic, and the mind in general.
Orange – quick changes, luck, attracting positive energy, energy building, fun, and energy for goals. The color Orange is a combination of Yellow and Red, therefore both energies are present with less intensity.
Green – money, business, fertility, good fortune, growth, abundance, healing, and success. Green has both Male and Female energies so it is a very balanced color. It is associated with Venus and Mercury.
Blue – truth, peace, protection, calm, creativity, soothing, cooling, bliss, spiritual well being, healing, and truth. Blue has a female energy to it, and is associated with the moon, Venus, Saturn, and Jupiter.
Purple – the spirit, spirituality, luck, protection, wisdom, understanding life’s mysteries, expansion, knowledge, reaching your higher self and highest potentials.
Brown – earth, stability, solid foundations, study, healing the earth, material needs. It is also associated with the hearth and home.
Black – reversing, protection, banishing, binding, absorbing, endings, justice, and endings.
White – spirituality, purity, wholeness, the goddess, balance, protection, healing, raising vibrations. White is also associated with the Moon and female energy. The color white is a combination of all colors, therefore it be used for any purpose.
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Re: Color connotations?
Gas fire can definitely be blue, and fireworks seem to indicate it's possible for fire to take just about any colour.
I wonder what it says about a culture if they associate fire with green or blue.My D&D 5th ed. Druid Handbook
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