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    Default "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

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    Abjuration [Force]
    Level: Clr 9, Sor/Wiz 8
    Components: V, S, M/DF
    Casting Time: 1 standard action
    Range: Close (25 ft + 5 ft/level)
    Area: 10 ft. radius
    Duration: 10 min./level (D)
    Saving Throw: Ref
    Spell Resistance: as antimagic field

    This spell functions exactly as the spell antimagic field, save that you target a specific area within range. Additionally, this dome is coated on the outside with a wall of force, effectively trapping anything inside it until the spell ends or is dispelled. When the spell is first cast, creatures caught inside must succeed on a Reflex save or be trapped inside the dome. On a successful save, they are moved to the closest empty space outside the dome's radius.

    Material Component: A set of masterwork manacles.
    Last edited by Noctis Vigil; 2012-12-11 at 09:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctis Vigil View Post
    Containment
    Abjuration [Force]
    Level: Clr 9, Sor/Wiz 7
    Components: V, S, M/DF
    Casting Time: 1 standard action
    Range: Close (25 ft + 5 ft/level)
    Area: 10 ft. radius
    Duration: 10 min./level (D)
    Saving Throw: None
    Spell Resistance:

    This spell functions exactly as the spell antimagic field, save that you target a specific area within range. Additionally, this dome is coated on the outside with a wall of force, effectively trapping anything inside it until the spell ends or is dispelled.

    Material Component: A set of masterwork manacles.
    Make it a 9th level spell, make it replicate the effects of Forcecage, and give it a much more expensive material component and bam, your spell makes perfect sense. Also, if you're interested make it Dual Schooled (see PHB2). It will make so much more sense to be Abjuration/Evocation [Force].
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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    This should probably be an epic spell, maybe a 9th level spell, but definitely not a 7th level spell. Unless you have one of a few very specific spells or class features, there's no escaping this, and it allows no defense. The nearest equivalent spell I can think of would be a Chained Antimagic Ray plus a Forcecage (9th + 8th level equivalents, respectively). Even without the Forcecage-like component, this would be worth an 8th or 9th level slot for providing an Antimagic Field that you can center on a point other than yourself.
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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    Minor update, only change is that the force wall pops up one round after the field appears. Will probably be upping the level to 8 later though.

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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    Quote Originally Posted by Noctis Vigil View Post
    Minor update, only change is that the force wall pops up one round after the field appears. Will probably be upping the level to 8 later though.
    Even with the delay I'd make it a lvl9 spell and maybe a more expensive material component. Or at least make the manacles have a value, say ~500gp.

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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    This just isn't as good as Imprisonment, so no, this is not 9th level equivalent. It shuts someone down for a couple of hours tops. If this is made 9th level, at minimum the duration is going way up.

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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    It is a no save just lose to a character(or a small group).
    Imprisonment at least allows a save.
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    Mmm. I'd take out the delay-- as it stands, it'll only ever trap immobile people-- but allow a Reflex save to escape the field, at the cost of your next move action.

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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    Quote Originally Posted by Grod_The_Giant View Post
    Mmm. I'd take out the delay-- as it stands, it'll only ever trap immobile people-- but allow a Reflex save to escape the field, at the cost of your next move action.
    I agree with this. Take out the delay, give it a reflex save, make it so it's a L9 spell.
    (L8 With a delay but still a reflex save when the delay runs out)
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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    Adding in the save is a solid choice for a Lvl 8. No reflex save, Lvl 9.

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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    Raised to L8, added Ref save.

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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    Quote Originally Posted by Noctis Vigil View Post
    Raised to L8, added Ref save.
    It doesn't exactly need a save. What it needs is an increase in level and a shortened duration (1 round/level is enough). The way the spell is now is that it is a no-save-just-suck. Adding a Ref save isn't exactly making it any better for balance since you WILL be casting this on Casters.
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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    I expend 5' of my Strange Movement.

    Dimension door or teleport works equally well, as does dimension stride boots or similar.

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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuman View Post
    Dimension door or teleport works equally well, as does dimension stride boots or similar.
    Anti-magic field.

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    Default Re: "Trapped! Trapped like rats!" (3.5 Spell, PEACH)

    Oh well, I guess the rest of the part can't get out.

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