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2008-07-03, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
Fair enough. I've added four more feats today.
Are you saying to dial it back to say... 1d4 (1d6?) per turning level? Your next comment seems to imply so, but I thought I would double-check...
Well... not in one shot... but "Holy Spray" is capped by the number of times you can turn undead in a day, whereas "Acid Spray" can be used once every 20 minutes (since it requires musk) all day long if you keep an Energy Substituted Delayed Blast Fireball prepared. However it DOES do ~1/4 the damage per shot of the other feat (half the dice per increment, and max spell level ~= half character level).
Sounds like it should be a "Go" then. How tough are the prerequisites for those feats? For one thing I PROBABLY need to make "Tail Shield Use" easier to get than "Prehensile Tail" since I ASSUME that the latter at least gives a bonus to climbing trees, and probably allows you to wield 3 hands worth of weapons.
Ok. Of course VT's word is going to be important on this, since it is one of the contest rules, but there WAS a reason I was asking publicly since it is ALSO important that if he says it is "legal" that I know it also won't be seen as a negative point for my races details.
Thank you, I may very well use that...Last edited by Guyr Adamantine; 2008-07-03 at 02:42 PM.
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2008-07-03, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
Have renamed my guys the Mepholk (Mephit+folk, the scientific name of the species they are based on is Mephitis Mephitis).
Added "Tail-Shield Use", and for Epic, "Tower Tail Shield Use"... just because the idea of a hulking bruiser of a war-skunk* slapping 20+ pounds of darkwood in front of a troll's greataxe as deftly as a scorpion stings is just... well... Epic...
* (Hmmm... that is catchy, maybe I should make a PrC for them some time using that name)
Edit: As a reserve feat PER SE "Acid Spray" is very weak. It doesn't give any outside bonus (although if I decide to make it more powerful it could be +1 CL to [Acid] spells), and it is limited in frequency of use by the musk supply (the Musk production and storage feats just make this restriction LESS... it takes 5 feats, 2 of them Epic, to totally remove that restriction). The thing that gives that feat most of its power is that it is equivalent to a limited version of Quicken Spell, since you get the distracting/blinding effects of the musk AND the acid damage... oh, and if you get multiple attacks per round you get to have a chance to do the damage more than once per round... can't forget that... good thing casters have poor BAB progression... Another minor power-up would be to say that on a critical if they fail the Fort. Save to avoid total blindness the first round, then blindness is permanent until Remove Blindness/Deafness applied as the acid eats their corneas...Last edited by DracoDei; 2008-07-03 at 03:02 PM.
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2008-07-03, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
Must. Make. Prestige. Classes...
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2008-07-03, 03:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
I suggest you take a look at the Maw Shaman... except for the linkage to devils/demons it is a spot on match for them I think.
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2008-07-03, 04:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-07-03, 05:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
That reminds me... specify that the cover from "Turtling Up" doesn't count against touch spells (See the PHB entry on Tower Shields).
Edit: Also "Gastric Juice", "Acid Bath". and "Vile Bile" have no parallels in your feats I don't think...Last edited by DracoDei; 2008-07-03 at 05:07 PM.
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2008-07-03, 05:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
Done. Thank you, good sir!
EDIT: I know. I tried to stay away from dubious humor. If I didn't, be sure Gridolls would already have the "Belch" and "Silent But Deadly" feats.
EDIT2: Okay, maybe I will.
EDIT3: I thought about it, and I came up with these conclusions.
1: Acid Spray is balanced.
2: Holy Spray at 1d6/Level is balanced.Last edited by Guyr Adamantine; 2008-07-03 at 05:23 PM.
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2008-07-03, 05:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
Possible change for Mepholk:
- Change racial HD to +1 LA (which is worse to start off with, but would bring in the possibility of buy-off)
- +1 to saves vs fear.
- Burrow Speed 5 or even 2.5 (So they have to Double Move to go 5 feet in a round)
- Intimidate added to the class skill lists for Ranger, Druid, and maybe Paladin. (Actually this one could perhaps work even without any change to the LA/HD mix).
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2008-07-03, 05:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
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2008-07-03, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
Not exactly sure how alternative levels work... do you usually trade something out, or just add an ability (in this case at first level of the respective classes)? If the former, what do people recommend they lose?
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2008-07-03, 08:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
They're always three levels, not forcibly consecutive, with special skill lists and points and hit dices.
These are changed to balance out additional flavorful abilities to the classes. Some replace other class features. One isn't forced to take them all.
There is no template for alternate levels beyond the usual "three levels".SpoilerStrongarm Warrior: An actually worthwhile Monkey Grip-focused PrC!
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2008-07-03, 10:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
So is it official that the soulstitched are out, or should I wait for conformation from Vorpal Tribble?
I have another idea if I'm allowed to enter another race in the soulstitched's place.
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2008-07-03, 11:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
DO NOT DELETE ANYTHING WITHOUT PUTTING IT IN ANOTHER THREAD...
That having been re-stated, yes, I am near certain you can swap out entries, and no, I wouldn't say that it is fully official until and unless VT says so.[Public Service Announcement]P.E.A.C.H stands for Please Examine And Critique Honestly[/Public Service Announcement]
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2008-07-04, 12:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
+1
I'm pretty sure you'll get to change your entry. It ain't like you came here with any bad intentions, am I right?
Just wait for VT's call. We still got a whole month!
EDIT: Oh, a shiny new race! First thing I must say:
LA +2 doesn't fit. Yes, Alter Self is overpowered, but any caster will be able to pul it off, so why the hoot?
EDIT2: Changed the name "Apooka Lord" to "Keradum Lord". While I love putting some humor in my work (No mather how unfunny it can be), I'll try to stay focused on my own race and not try to bring existing material in too much.Last edited by Guyr Adamantine; 2008-07-04 at 11:22 AM.
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2008-07-04, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
So what do you guys think of the ghostfolk? Being able to shift between corpreability and incorpreability is pretty nifty, but I fear it to be underpowered.
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2008-07-04, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
I like to keep things informal and fun here, but the rules were meant to help preserve that. In this instance, though a great entry, it was previously posted. The rule is there so everyone can have more or less the same starting time.
<thunderrumble>Official Ruling </thunderrumble>
Make a new one, but by all means post it's new and improved look for others to see in the forums.
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2008-07-04, 12:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
A race like mine has already been posted? Dang, I didn't know that.....
Can i get a link to where it was posted?
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2008-07-04, 12:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-07-04, 12:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
It's... pretty bland, actually. Their abilities lack some flavor. I suggest throwing some skill bonuses and other goodies.
Other than that, the feats:
Fast shifting
Improved item carrying
Improved shifting
Creature shifting
EDIT: Happy Independence Day everyone!Last edited by Guyr Adamantine; 2008-07-04 at 12:59 PM.
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2008-07-04, 01:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
@ Tribble: Ahh, ok, thanks.
OK, I'll mess with them in those ways. Two things,
1.) What do you mean by "Complex action shifting"
2.) With the creature shifting, you can only bring one creature with an HD up to your own, so it's not going to be overpowered.
I'll add in some more skills and whatnot to spice it up.
Thanks for the advice!
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2008-07-04, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
Sorry, I just remembered "full-round actions" are called "complex actions" in french, and I got mixed up.
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2008-07-04, 01:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ah, ok, good idea. I'll throw in a prerequisite or two for the second feat.
And, yes, I know that people on your team will probably have the same HD as you. I intended it that way.
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2008-07-04, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
It is the wings... flight is considered a very powerful ability, and they can do it as often as they would ever need for combat, and even some fairly detailed aerial scouting prior to combat.
Well, depends on how good people are about using on-line sites that auto-calculate stuff for example characters, but we can certainly hope so...
(But I guess this means I don't have to be TOO worried about getting the monetary accounting right on all of the example characters, and can even just pick equipment that "feels right" in many cases?)Last edited by DracoDei; 2008-07-04 at 02:23 PM.
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2008-07-04, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
I agree. The wings tend to be a major thing.
Take, for instance the winged creature template in savage species. Just for a pair of wings, the LA is 2.
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2008-07-04, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
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2008-07-04, 04:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
I've personally never found traveling long distances a problem, save a few random encounters, you just turn on the time machine and *BAM* you're in the city 500 miles away.
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2008-07-04, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
You forgot to mention higher flight speed, higher dex and wis scores, and great maneuvrability modified by dex...
This is worth LA +2.
It is the wings... flight is considered a very powerful ability, and they can do it as often as they would ever need for combat, and even some fairly detailed aerial scouting prior to combat.
EDIT: The "frenchie" shall make you pay. Beware, for when you will least expect, my mimes, armed with their state-of-the-art baguettes!
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2008-07-04, 06:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
I've just added the finishing touches to my Mundaziers. I'm not sure if I got the LA right though (this is the first time I've tried to homebrew a race rather than just a monster).
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2008-07-04, 06:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
LAs are pretty easy to do. I bet you got it right.
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2008-07-04, 07:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: GITP Monster Competition Chat Thread
You know... I never thought I would ever hear that phrase spoken around here.
LAs at least CAN be sources of much angst and certainly I have seen... "spirited discussions" about what the LA of a certain race should be... but then again what we have here may be more straight forward than that.[Public Service Announcement]P.E.A.C.H stands for Please Examine And Critique Honestly[/Public Service Announcement]
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