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    Default Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground XLI

    Welcome, contestants, judges, and guests to Iron Chef XLI. Here in Optimization Colosseum, contestants will endeavor to create an optimized and flavorful character using a specified D&D3.5 prestige class as a "Secret Ingredient".

    Contestants: You will need to present a write-up of your build at at least one of the following points: 5th level, 10th level, 15th, 20th, and a "sweet spot" that you feel is the high point of the build, as well as presenting a fully-fleshed out 20-level build in the table below. Feel free to present as many of these as you like, and please give a rundown of the build's abilities and playability at all of the levels you didn't show. The rules are as follows:

    Menu: For most challenges, the "special ingredient" will be drawn from Core plus Completes. There will, from time to time, be special challenges that showcase secret ingredients from other books--for example, the XPH.
    32 point-buy is the presumed creation method, but we have generally allowed other levels of point-buy.
    If you do use a different point-buy, please make your case for its necessity in your entry. Keep in mind that for using exceptionally large or small point-buys may warrant deductions in elegance and/or power.

    Kitchen: Competitors will be free to use any official 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon magazine is disallowed, and Unearthed Arcana is allowed; but see Elegance below. Web-exclusive 3.0 or 3.5 materials by WotC are expressly allowed, but take care to verify that an updated version did not appear in print elsewhere, as this may cause an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion. Alternate rule systems from UA such as gestalt are not allowed, as they create a different playing field. Also, item familiars are forbidden because I hate 'em. This comes up often enough to bear mention in the rules: Dragon Compendium is allowed.

    Cooking Time: Contestants will have until 11:59PM GMT on Saturday, January 19th, 2012 to create their builds and PM them to the Chairman, Amphetryon. Builds will then be posted simultaneously, to avoid copying. Judges will have until 11:59PM GMT on Saturday, February 2nd, 2013 to judge the builds and submit their scores. If no judges have scored by that point, only the scores of the first judge to submit will be counted.

    Judging: Judging will be based on the following criteria, with each build rated from 1 (very poor) to 5 (exemplary) in each area: Originality, Power, Elegance, Use of Secret Ingredient.
    Power level is up to you. Cheese is acceptable, but should be kept to a sane level unless you're showcasing a new TO build you've discovered. In the words of one of my predecessors, a little cheddar can be nice, but avoid the mature Gruyere unless you're making a cheese fondue.
    Elegance could bear a little elaboration. It basically measures how skillfully you put your build together, and whether you sacrificed flavor for power. We're cooking here - if your dish doesn't taste good, it doesn't matter how well-presented it is. Use of flaws is an automatic loss of one point per flaw in this category. Other things that will cause lost points here are excessive multiclassing, and classes that don't fit the concept - using Cloistered Cleric in a front-line melee fighter, for example, will lose you points. Please note the following change: a legal source's relative obscurity should not be considered as penalizing Elegance, excepting the aforementioned issues with Unearthed Arcana. Using too many sources may be an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion, but a book's relative obscurity may not.
    Presentation: Builds will be posted anonymously, in order to avoid the potential of bias towards a particular competitor. For this reason, please don't put your name in the build, as I'm likely to miss it when reviewing the entries!
    Due to concerns about standardizing entry format, I'd like everyone to try to use the following table for their entry.
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    For other systems (Psionics, ToB, Incarnum, etc.) keep track of PP/maneuvers/essentia separately, preferably in a nice neat list.
    Speculation: Please don't post or speculate on possible builds until the "reveal," in order to avoid spoiling the surprise if a particular competitor is producing a build along those lines.

    Leadership is banned; we're producing a meal, not a seven-course banquet for a hundred diners. If your entry includes a prestige class or ACF that grants Leadership or a Leadership-like ability as a bonus feat, the feat should be ignored and is not eligible to be traded away for another feat or ACF through any means.

    So! Who wants to sign up as a contestant, and who wants to sign up as a judge? Looking for as many contestants and judges as feel like playing!

    This week's special ingredient is:
    Complete Divine's Geomancer!
    We will award 1st through 3rd places, as well as a shout-out for honorable mention. The honorable mention prize is given to the most daring or unexpected build. Judges, contestants and guests alike are invited to vote for honorable mention via PM.

    Allez optimiser!

    Contestants

    Judges

    The Builds

    Past Competitions

    Iron Chef I: Entropomancer
    Iron Chef II: Psibond Agent
    Iron Chef III: Cancer Mage
    Iron Chef IV: Stonelord
    Iron Chef V: War Chanter
    Iron Chef VI: Master of Masks
    Iron Chef VII: Green Star Adept
    Iron Chef VIII: Pyrokineticist
    Iron Chef IX: Animal Lord
    Iron Chef X: Mythic Exemplar
    Iron Chef XI: Blade Bravo
    Iron Chef XII: War Mind
    Iron Chef XIII: Vigilante
    Iron Chef XIV: Seeker of the Song
    Iron Chef XV: Drunken Master
    Iron Chef XVI: Assassin
    Iron Chef XVII: Ardent Dilettante
    Iron Chef XVIII: Unseelie Dark Hunter
    Iron Chef XIX: Dread Pirate
    Iron Chef XX: Incandescent Champion
    Iron Chef XXI: Ghostwalker
    Iron Chef XXII: Dervish
    Iron Chef XXIII: Divine Crusader
    Iron Chef XXIV: Tactical Soldier
    Iron Chef XXV: Scion of Tem-Et-Nu
    Iron Chef XXVI: Shadowdancer
    Iron Chef XXVII: Mindbender
    Iron Chef XXVIII: Cryokineticist
    Iron Chef XXIX: Consecrated Harrier
    Iron Chef XXX: Initiate of Pistis Sophia
    Iron Chef XXXI: Shadow Sentinel
    Iron Chef XXXII: Temple Raider of Olidammara
    Iron Chef XXXIII: Drow Judicator
    Iron Chef XXXIV: Dragon Disciple
    Iron Chef XXXV: Death Delver
    Iron Chef XXXVI: Acolyte of the Skin
    Iron Chef XXXVII: Justiciar
    Iron Chef XXXVIII: Hand of the Winged Master
    Iron Chef XXXIX: Renegade Mastermaker
    Iron Chef XL: Nightsong Infiltrator
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    Firbolg in the Playground
     
    NecromancerGuy

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    FAQ:
    Is Dragon Compendium Allowed? Yes, but individual issues of Dragon Magazine are not.

    What about 3.0 materials? 3.0 materials, whether online or in printed form, are allowed unless they've been officially updated to a 3.5 edition.

    Are Dragonlance, Ravenloft, Planescape, Dark Sun, or Kingdoms of Kalamar allowable sources? The Dragonlance Campaign Setting is allowed, but the subsequent books for Dragonlance are considered 3rd party, and are therefore not eligible, despite the "WotC approved" status of those books. The same holds for Oriental Adventures (1st party) and the subsequent Rokugan books (3rd party). Materials from Ravenloft, Planescape, Dark Sun, and Kingdoms of Kalamar are considered 3rd party for purposes of this contest, and are therefore not allowed.

    What about online sources in general? If the online source is a) published by WotC, and b) not replaced by an updated version at a later time, it is eligible. Use it, link it.

    Where's the line drawn with "acceptable/unacceptable" for Unearthed Arcana? This will likely vary a bit from Chairman to Chairman. Item Familiars and Gestalt have always been verboten, since before IC migrated to GitP; don't expect that to change. Flaws have similarly always been noted as warranting a deduction; while I am Chairman, I'm extending that to Traits, though they warrant 1/2 the penalty in Elegance that a Flaw would because they're roughly 1/2 as useful. Alternate spell systems, alternate skill systems and alternate crafting rules all create an uneven playing field, and as such, will be disallowed for as long as I am Chairman. Bloodlines are ripe for abuse, and will be strongly discouraged as long as I am Chairman. Note that judges are allowed to look askance at any use of Unearthed Arcana not specifically mentioned above, at their discretion, and otherwise penalize Elegance according to their preference.

    What, exactly, does the ban on Leadership mean? As folks have started to try to work around the edges of this one, I'm forced to spell it out more plainly. No Leadership, Draconic Cohort, or Feats that grant a similar ability are allowed EXCEPT Wild Cohort while Amphetryon is chairman. Any PrC you choose with Leadership or a Leadership-analog has that ability entirely ignored for this contest, as it may neither be used nor traded away via any means whatsoever.

    What's the minimum score in a category? Assuming an entry is legal, the minimum score in any category is 1. If a judge is convinced that an entry is illegal by the RAW, the judge may give a 0 or decline to score a given entry. Because this contest focuses on Player Characters, an entry that is not technically allowed for a PC, but is viable as an NPC, counts as a legal entry, but may receive a minimum score at the judges' discretion.
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    Aww yeah, Geomancer. On this like white on rice.

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    Oooh, Geomancer, always been a fan of this class, although I've never made one. I think I might try my hand at making one.

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    Why do the M/M forums have to be down right now!

    Geomancer has some exclusive tricks. GLHF, everyone!

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    I've got a peachy-keen-awesome idea for this one!
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    You fiend. Perhaps I'll be able to scrounge up something.
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    Hmm... I've got a fluff based idea that might work. I'll have to tinker to see if I can come up with any neat ideas to tie into it mechanically.

    If I don't come up with anything good, I'll definitely judge.
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    Ditto, really. I've looked at Geomancer before and turned up nothing, so I'm happy to have a go at judging.
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    Hmm I was expecting a class with it's own spell list, this is much better and I alread have an idea; but I need to hit the books to see if is viable. Count me in.
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    Ok so what is the deal with spell versatility? How does that work?

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    I'm in to cook. this will be a strange contest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigas Breaker View Post
    Ok so what is the deal with spell versatility? How does that work?
    Not gonna tell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muktidata View Post
    Not gonna tell!
    But it's like are the judges gonna agree on what a spell parameter is?

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    Geomancer is a very interesting class, I'll see if there is anything I can do about it.
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    I think I'll try this one. Haven't tried my hand at this before, but I have read the threads, and I rather like this class.
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    Scrubing this sending a pm
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    Seer, I'd suggest you PM the chairman your question and edit out your post, so as not to give away your build or influence any other competitors.
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    Having gotten several questions about Rainbow Servant, I'll give my answer here:

    We have gone round and round on whether Rainbow Servant is intended to be a full caster class or not based on the text vs. table discrepancy, with neither side coming out to a truly conclusive win, to my understanding. For that reason, judges are free to decide for themselves whether Rainbow Servant is a full casting class or not, and score it accordingly, during my tenure as Chairman of Iron Chef.

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    If I can get something I like together, this might be a good round for me to actually participate for the first time, instead of just lurking.

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    I have an idea, I think.

    As to what Spell Versatility does, as far as I can make out, it seems to me you count all your spellcasting classes as though they were the same class, except with two (or more) spell lists and your abilities, provided that they directly affect spell slots/spell casting/etc, affect this "super class" no differently than they affected their own normaly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Cookie View Post
    I have an idea, I think.

    As to what Spell Versatility does, as far as I can make out, it seems to me you count all your spellcasting classes as though they were the same class, except with two (or more) spell lists and your abilities, provided that they directly affect spell slots/spell casting/etc, affect this "super class" no differently than they affected their own normaly.
    Your post just gave me inspiration for a high Op build that could use abuse this....

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    I wouldn't be a very good Chef if I didn't help others understand the ingredient, now, would I?
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    I think it was just the way you worded it that reminded me of something that will help me , thank you .

    edit: I've never entered before but I would like to confirm something we are limited to 1 entry per person correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seer_of_Heart View Post
    edit: I've never entered before but I would like to confirm something we are limited to 1 entry per person correct?
    Nope. In fact, we've seen as many as three entries from one person in the past (Death Delver).
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    Excellent, I have 2 build ideas 1 is a T0 build and the other is more reasonable .

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    lol, Scry is still a class skill.

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    lol, Scry is still a class skill.
    I'm not familiar with 3.0, was that something that used to be part of it? Or is it just the editors and designers making mistakes/failing to catch those mistakes again.

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    That, along with Intuit Direction (folded into Survival, I think), Innuendo (Bluff?) and another skill on top of Scry were all 3.0 skills lost in translation to 3.5 from what I can remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaz View Post
    That, along with Intuit Direction (folded into Survival, I think), Innuendo (Bluff?) and another skill on top of Scry were all 3.0 skills lost in translation to 3.5 from what I can remember.
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