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    Hello to all, and I'm honoured to see you enter the thirtieth incarnation of the queerest, rainbow-coloured, extra-friendly corner of the Playground, the LGBTAitp thread!

    This is a thread where we Playgrounders, and LGBTAitp in particular, gather to discuss, share our experiences, give general advice and support one another in such matters as arise relating to, well, the world beyond heteronormativity.

    Please note that although the title of the thread names only the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Asexual communities, it is intended as an all inclusive environment.

    • Everyone is welcome. Let's try to keep from seeming otherwise.
    • Keep this topic free of politics and religion. (so, don't violate the board rules, plz)
    • It's beyond the scope of this thread to discuss whether LGBT is "Right." (And really, most discussions probably should avoid moralizing too much anyway)
    • Please refrain from posting sexually explicit content. (Keep it friendly as well as board safe )



    Keep in mind that content which contain strong language may be filtered (Plus, y'know, the forum-filters), and content that violates the forum rules won't be posted at all.

    Here are the links for the previous threads, where much of use or interest may be found:


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    Lagerbeta: A fine brewski to be drunk by queers and allies.
    LGBT: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans*
    Trans*: Transsexual and Transgender
    LGBTA: LGBT+Asexual/Allies
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    Q - Queer and Questioning
    U - Unidentified
    I - Intersex
    L - Lesbian
    T - Transgender, Transexual
    B - Bisexual
    A - Asexual
    G - Gay, Genderqueer

    Allies: Straight people that support equality for sexuality and gender minorities.
    MtF: Male-to-Female: A woman born with male nibblies, who may or may not be seeking HRT and/or SRS. (AKA: trans woman)
    FtM: Female-to-Male: A man born with female nibblies, who may or may not be seeking HRT and/or SRS. (AKA: trans man)
    GQ: Genderqueer.
    CS: Cis-sexual: sex and gender match (a male with male nibblies, a female with female nibblies.
    TS: Transsexual: Sex and gender disparity.
    HRT: Hormone replacement therapy. MtF's take more progestrogens and oestrogens and FtM's take more testosterone (I think?)
    SRS: Sex Reassignment Surgery: Surgery to replace/transform a vagina into a penis, or vice versa depending on direction. Mastectomies or plastic surgery may be used on breasts.
    FFS: Facial Feminization Surgery: Plastic surgery to reduce chin/nose/cheekbones. not very common.

    Man: A cisman or transman. Male.
    Woman: A ciswoman or transwoman. Female.
    Androgyne: Gender Identity with male and female aspects.
    Genderfluid: Someone who fluctuates between male and female.
    Agendered: Someone who feels neither male nor female.
    Third-gendered: Someone who fits in a local society's third gender, usually male performing female tasks, occasionally vice versa.
    Masculine: Something generally associated with men.
    Feminine: Something generally associated with women.

    Lesbian: A woman who is attracted to women.
    Gay: A man who is attracted to men.
    Homosexual: A person who is attracted to members of their gender.
    Heterosexual: A person who is attracted to members of the opposite gender.
    Bisexual: A person who is attracted to two genders (usually men and women, sometimes transgender instead of one of those).
    Pansexual: A person who is attracted to people regardless of gender.
    Asexual: A person who does not feel any/some sexual attraction.
    Demisexual: A person who is sexually attracted to someone(s) they have formed an intense emotional relationship with.
    Polyamorous: A person who is interested in a relationship with more than one person.
    Radosexual: A person who is only attracted to rad people.
    Pomosexual: A person who avoids SO labels.

    Sexual Orientation: How one identifies who they are attracted to. (SO)
    Gender Identity: How one feels inside society's idea of "man, woman, or other". (GI)
    Gender Expression: How one expresses their GI to society. (GE)
    Significant Other(s): Person you are in a relationship with. (SO)
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    Can I get cuddles?
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    :O (cuddles) xD
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    I too am interested in this offer of cuddles...

    On topic, I'm still looking for articles related to child development differences (or similarities) between hetero and same-sex couples.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Absol197 View Post
    I too am interested in this offer of cuddles...

    On topic, I'm still looking for articles related to child development differences (or similarities) between hetero and same-sex couples.


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    *cuddles*

    *joins request for cuddles*

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    So, got struck by a bout of dysphoria that was worse than anything I've had in weeks. And to make it even worse it just wouldn't go away no matter what I did and it lasted on the whole day and I had to fight off collapsing in a pile of sobbing pityfullness all day...

    Everyone here is making progress and achieving things while I'm still super nervous and scared about everything and don't even dare to go buy clothes or anything or think about informing my uni and I basically don't really have anyone for support in real life cause I shut myself up so much and I'm all anxious around people and I just feel so cowardly and stupid and not deserving of transitioning and I'll never look decent anyway and it's all just a whole puddle of darkness that I"m sinking away with and tendrils dragging me down and more blehness...
    Lena, you've achieved a lot, like other people have said, going to the endo, getting those prescriptions (even if it's been tough and they're not there yet. ) I've seen the pictures you posted and I think you'll look great. And don't think I'm just saying that to make you feel better, I'm one of the most brutally critical people you'll ever meet, and I don't pay idle compliments. It won't be perfect because nothing is, but it will be better than it is now. If you think not telling your uni makes you a coward, than you're in the company of many many cowards. I often feel like I shut myself away too, and even having a few people support me doesn't help because i don't think I could step out from behind the familiar, if often miserably uncomfortable, mask of maleness that I spend most of my day hiding behind, so that often in a crows I feel alone. But maybe, and this is just a suggestion and a thought, and you shouldn't take it as anything more, trying to find a support group or something near you would be good. Even if it's fractious and full of competing narratives about transness, you might find someone to talk to there, who could become a source of RL support, since you don't have much right now.

    About deserving transition: Who can decide that you don't deserve transition? A doctor with a paper degree and a cardboard brain can deny it, but that doesn't mean you don't deserve it. Social standards? What do they matter when your identity is for you first of all and everyone else in the world second? The only one who can decide whether you deserve something is you, and in this case, why should you not do what will make you happy? Everyone who matters, ultimately, loses in that scenario. But still, that doesn't mean that waiting until you're more secure makes you less worthy, it's just practical. There's no inherent virtue in making things hard for yourself. Sometimes I think there;s a mistake made talking about "transition" as if it were an objective thing, like metamorphosis or some automatic process where transness attracts you to your correct gender presentation irresistibly and along a pre-determined path at a pre-determined pace, like magnetism. It's full of fits and starts, of steps forward to try new things, steps backward to re-confirm old knowledge, and steps sideways just because. Your transition is yours, and you deserve it because it is a fundamental part of you. It may not be perfect or ideal, but I think it will get where it needs to be in the end. Good luck!

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    Well said, Laura. I'm not sure transition is something you can deserve. That the word applies to it.
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    Wow, Laura. Those are some very impassioned words. They give me the warm fuzzies, and they weren't even for me.

    Very well put.

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    Flying turtle-cuddles are second only to mysterious-snail-like-being cuddles.
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    *Burns Lixie's desk* NOW THE CUTE PEOPLE CANNOT HIDE FROM HUGS AND LOVE! >:D

    So. Bit of a problem...

    I use the internet to express my feminine side etc, and Lea Plath tends to be my generic user name, but I've got some people on steam and cockatrice who I know in real life and they have questioned about the user name/pictures. I've kinda deflected them for now, but got me worried a little is all. They are my friends but I dunno... I would rather it didn't get out if possible yet.
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    Simple enough:

    "I play <insert MMO here> and my guild/corp/griefing group I hang around with know me as Lea Plath. I changed my Steam name so they know who I am and one of them did a cartoon based on my character. I thought it was rather awesome and decided to stick with it."

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    I wanna cuddle! :pout:


    Hey Lea! Haven't seen you in the thread for a while (possibly because I haven't been keeping up for a while, but still ). *Waves~*

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    So, got struck by a bout of dysphoria that was worse than anything I've had in weeks. And to make it even worse it just wouldn't go away no matter what I did and it lasted on the whole day and I had to fight off collapsing in a pile of sobbing pityfullness all day...

    Everyone here is making progress and achieving things while I'm still super nervous and scared about everything and don't even dare to go buy clothes or anything or think about informing my uni and I basically don't really have anyone for support in real life cause I shut myself up so much and I'm all anxious around people and I just feel so cowardly and stupid and not deserving of transitioning and I'll never look decent anyway and it's all just a whole puddle of darkness that I"m sinking away with and tendrils dragging me down and more blehness...
    *So many hugs* You are absolutely strong, beautiful, smart, and wonderful. I'm actually inspired by you (for one thing, I can't tell my parents about my gender even after I've moved out >.>)~ *More hugs*


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    I wanna cuddle! :pout:


    Hey Lea! Haven't seen you in the thread for a while (possibly because I haven't been keeping up for a while, but still ). *Waves~*~Bianca
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    *Cuddles* But you have me everywhere else :P
    Yeah, but still thread. *Huggles*

    Succubus' idea sounds good~


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    I too am interested in this offer of cuddles...
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    *cuddles*

    *joins request for cuddles*
    (cuddles you both and Bianca too)

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    (cuddles you both and Bianca too)

    @Lea: I made the desk out of water vapour and sunshine, it's not hard to replace. xD
    I have more fire than you have that stuff >:D
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    Thanks for the commentary at the end of the last thread. I appreciate it. Also, I would like to extend free cuddles, and also enquire about the promised ones.
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    Thanks for the commentary at the end of the last thread. I appreciate it. Also, I would like to extend free cuddles, and also enquire about the promised ones.
    Can I get a 6 armed hug? :3
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    Can I get a 6 armed hug? :3
    Of course! Come here you lovable lady with the right number of limbs! *hug*
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    I'd just like to echo the kudos to Laura.
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    Of course! Come here you lovable lady with the right number of limbs! *hug*
    Needs more L! *hugs back!*

    I love the idea of 6 armed hugs. The arms fit perfectly together :P
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    I have more fire than you have that stuff >:D
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    So. TIL that trying to work while suffering from a major attack of dysphoria is unfun.
    Basically, I've been managing okay feminizing myself as much as I can while staying just within the bounds I've been set. Today, though, there was a big group in, and I was taking drinks orders, and one guy said to his friend something along the lines of "this gentleman wants to know what you want to drink" and it all came crashing down. I forced myself through another hour, hour and a half, but eventually I went to my supervisor, told her I wasn't coping, and begged to be allowed to finish the shift as a girl. She, however, was unwilling to put her arse on the line by letting me when the manager had said no, but as it was quiet she let me go early. She also said she'd tell the manager to phone me tomorrow, so one way or another this is going down.

    As I'm now pretty certain I'm trans, I'm legally in the right, but I'm slightly terrified about what's gonna happen.
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    So I'm considering starting to try meeting dudes who are into dudes more actively and a quick look around reveals that I have three options:

    Gaybar - Tried this, not my thing. When drinking I prefer just hanging around a friends apartment with some friends and I usually only go to bars because my friends want to go to bars. Also they are straight so we go to those bars (and usually just our regular club or pub). On top of that the gaybars usually close after existing for a year or two and another opens and I have no idea where the current on is.

    Grindr and other apps like that - Iceland = small community = very small percentage of people that use these apps. Just looked at grindr for example and the entire capital region seems to have around 20-30 guys on there.

    The universities LGBT society - Seems like the best option. They have meetings, pub quizzes, movie nights and more stuff like that. They don't seem to have a schedule posted anywhere though. Also suddenly appearing alone in a community where everyone kinda knows each other is kinda scary for an introvert.

    So any ideas? Tips from other shy people?
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    @Helio
    (hugs /tightly/)
    I'm pretty sure that if this ends badly for you, they are in so much trouble.
    You're in the right even if you're not trans. Your gender expression is your own business.
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    *wanders through thread cuddling all who allow it*

    Congratulations to Helio on having an awesome university.
    Extra hugs for Golentan 'cause all people should be able to get hugs.

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    You are one of the kindest women I've had the pleasure to talk to, and I do not exaggerate about such things. You are wonderful, and have made plenty of progress in ways that other people haven't, even if you're behind them in other places. If you don't feel brave enough to go and visibly buy girl-clothes, that's okay. I haven't managed to do that yet, either, and I don't think less of myself for it. And if I don't think less of myself for something, I'll certainly not let you do so. You worry about not passing when I (and no doubt others, too) would give loads to look as feminine (and as pretty) as you do - that's not to say that you're at fault for having doubts when others aren't so lucky, we just want you to see yourself as we see you. We're all here for you, even if there's few who are there in close physical proximity.
    That probably wasn't a good supportive message, but I hope it helps even a little.


    EDIT: @Helio: *offers more hugs* That's terrible, I hope everything goes in your favour.
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    Incidentally, by "major attack" I mean I was actually seriously wondering if I was going to throw up, and when I went up to get changed I spent about five minutes having a minor panic attack in the bathroom.

    It hasn't been that bad for a while :/
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    *hugs for Helio*

    pffh, I've got nothing but I wish you luck.

    Lix, you're adorable. *cheekkiss*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliomance View Post
    Incidentally, by "major attack" I mean I was actually seriously wondering if I was going to throw up, and when I went up to get changed I spent about five minutes having a minor panic attack in the bathroom.

    It hasn't been that bad for a while :/
    Panic attacks are horrible. :(
    (hugs more)

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    Lix, you're adorable. *cheekkiss*
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