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2013-02-02, 09:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Iron Chef Optimization Challenge In the Playground XLII
Welcome, contestants, judges, and guests to Iron Chef XLII. Here in Optimization Colosseum, contestants will endeavor to create an optimized and flavorful character using a specified D&D3.5 prestige class as a "Secret Ingredient".
Contestants: You will need to present a write-up of your build at at least one of the following points: 5th level, 10th level, 15th, 20th, and a "sweet spot" that you feel is the high point of the build, as well as presenting a fully-fleshed out 20-level build in the table below. Feel free to present as many of these as you like, and please give a rundown of the build's abilities and playability at all of the levels you didn't show. The rules are as follows:
Menu: For most challenges, the "special ingredient" will be drawn from Core plus Completes. There will, from time to time, be special challenges that showcase secret ingredients from other books--for example, the XPH.
32 point-buy is the presumed creation method, but we have generally allowed other levels of point-buy.
If you do use a different point-buy, please make your case for its necessity in your entry. Keep in mind that for using exceptionally large or small point-buys may warrant deductions in elegance and/or power.
Kitchen: Competitors will be free to use any official 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon magazine is disallowed, and Unearthed Arcana is allowed; but see Elegance below. Web-exclusive 3.0 or 3.5 materials by WotC are expressly allowed, but take care to verify that an updated version did not appear in print elsewhere, as this may cause an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion. Alternate rule systems from UA such as gestalt are not allowed, as they create a different playing field. Also, item familiars are forbidden because I hate 'em. This comes up often enough to bear mention in the rules: Dragon Compendium is allowed.
Cooking Time: Contestants will have until 11:59PM GMT on Saturday, February 16th, 2012 to create their builds and PM them to the Chairman, Amphetryon. Builds will then be posted simultaneously, to avoid copying. Judges will have until 11:59PM GMT on Saturday, March 2nd, 2013 to judge the builds and submit their scores. If no judges have scored by that point, only the scores of the first judge to submit will be counted.
Judging: Judging will be based on the following criteria, with each build rated from 1 (very poor) to 5 (exemplary) in each area: Originality, Power, Elegance, Use of Secret Ingredient.
Power level is up to you. Cheese is acceptable, but should be kept to a sane level unless you're showcasing a new TO build you've discovered. In the words of one of my predecessors, a little cheddar can be nice, but avoid the mature Gruyere unless you're making a cheese fondue.Elegance could bear a little elaboration. It basically measures how skillfully you put your build together, and whether you sacrificed flavor for power. We're cooking here - if your dish doesn't taste good, it doesn't matter how well-presented it is. Use of flaws is an automatic loss of one point per flaw in this category. Other things that will cause lost points here are excessive multiclassing, and classes that don't fit the concept - using Cloistered Cleric in a front-line melee fighter, for example, will lose you points. Please note the following change: a legal source's relative obscurity should not be considered as penalizing Elegance, excepting the aforementioned issues with Unearthed Arcana. Using too many sources may be an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion, but a book's relative obscurity may not.Presentation: Builds will be posted anonymously, in order to avoid the potential of bias towards a particular competitor. For this reason, please don't put your name in the build, as I'm likely to miss it when reviewing the entries!
Due to concerns about standardizing entry format, I'd like everyone to try to use the following table for their entry.SpoilerNAME OF ENTRY
{table=head]Level|Class|Base Attack Bonus|Fort Save|Ref Save|Will Save|Skills|Feats|Class Features
1st|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
2nd|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
3rd|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
4th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
5th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
6th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
7th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
8th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
9th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
10th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
11th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
12th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
13th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
14th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
15th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
16th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
17th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
18th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
19th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
20th|New Class Level|+x|+x|+x|+x|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities[/table]
CodeSpoiler[b]NAME OF ENTRY[/b]
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1st|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
2nd|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
3rd|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
4th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
5th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
6th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
7th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
8th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
9th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
10th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
11th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
12th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
13th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
14th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
15th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
16th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
17th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
18th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
19th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities
20th|New Class Level|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|[center]+x[/center]|Skills|New Feats|New Class Abilities[/table]
For entries with spellcasting, use the following table for Spells per day and Spells Known. (Spells Known only if necessary, i.e. Sorcerer or Bard, but not Wizard or Warmage)SpoilerSpells per day/Spells Known
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CodeSpoiler[b]Spells per day/Spells Known[/b]
{table=head][b]Level[/b]|[b]0lvl[/b]|[b]1st[/b]|[b]2nd[/b]|[b]3rd[/b]|[b]4th[/b]|[b]5th[/b]|[b]6th[/b]|[b]7th[/b]|[b]8th[/b]|[b]9th[/b]
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For other systems (Psionics, ToB, Incarnum, etc.) keep track of PP/maneuvers/essentia separately, preferably in a nice neat list.Speculation: Please don't post or speculate on possible builds until the "reveal," in order to avoid spoiling the surprise if a particular competitor is producing a build along those lines.
Leadership is banned; we're producing a meal, not a seven-course banquet for a hundred diners. If your entry includes a prestige class or ACF that grants Leadership or a Leadership-like ability as a bonus feat, the feat should be ignored and is not eligible to be traded away for another feat or ACF through any means.
So! Who wants to sign up as a contestant, and who wants to sign up as a judge? Looking for as many contestants and judges as feel like playing!
This week's special ingredient is:
Tome of Magic's Shadowblade!
We will award 1st through 3rd places, as well as a shout-out for honorable mention. The honorable mention prize is given to the most daring or unexpected build. Judges, contestants and guests alike are invited to vote for honorable mention via PM.
Allez optimiser!
Contestants
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Past Competitions
Iron Chef I: Entropomancer
Iron Chef II: Psibond Agent
Iron Chef III: Cancer Mage
Iron Chef IV: Stonelord
Iron Chef V: War Chanter
Iron Chef VI: Master of Masks
Iron Chef VII: Green Star Adept
Iron Chef VIII: Pyrokineticist
Iron Chef IX: Animal Lord
Iron Chef X: Mythic Exemplar
Iron Chef XI: Blade Bravo
Iron Chef XII: War Mind
Iron Chef XIII: Vigilante
Iron Chef XIV: Seeker of the Song
Iron Chef XV: Drunken Master
Iron Chef XVI: Assassin
Iron Chef XVII: Ardent Dilettante
Iron Chef XVIII: Unseelie Dark Hunter
Iron Chef XIX: Dread Pirate
Iron Chef XX: Incandescent Champion
Iron Chef XXI: Ghostwalker
Iron Chef XXII: Dervish
Iron Chef XXIII: Divine Crusader
Iron Chef XXIV: Tactical Soldier
Iron Chef XXV: Scion of Tem-Et-Nu
Iron Chef XXVI: Shadowdancer
Iron Chef XXVII: Mindbender
Iron Chef XXVIII: Cryokineticist
Iron Chef XXIX: Consecrated Harrier
Iron Chef XXX: Initiate of Pistis Sophia
Iron Chef XXXI: Shadow Sentinel
Iron Chef XXXII: Temple Raider of Olidammara
Iron Chef XXXIII: Drow Judicator
Iron Chef XXXIV: Dragon Disciple
Iron Chef XXXV: Death Delver
Iron Chef XXXVI: Acolyte of the Skin
Iron Chef XXXVII: Justiciar
Iron Chef XXXVIII: Hand of the Winged Master
Iron Chef XXXIX: Renegade Mastermaker
Iron Chef XL: Nightsong Infiltrator
Iron Chef XLI: Geomancer
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2013-02-02, 09:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge In the Playground XLII
FAQ:
Is Dragon Compendium Allowed? Yes, but individual issues of Dragon Magazine are not.
What about 3.0 materials? 3.0 materials, whether online or in printed form, are allowed unless they've been officially updated to a 3.5 edition.
Are Dragonlance, Ravenloft, Planescape, Dark Sun, or Kingdoms of Kalamar allowable sources? The Dragonlance Campaign Setting is allowed, but the subsequent books for Dragonlance are considered 3rd party, and are therefore not eligible, despite the "WotC approved" status of those books. The same holds for Oriental Adventures (1st party) and the subsequent Rokugan books (3rd party). Materials from Ravenloft, Planescape, Dark Sun, and Kingdoms of Kalamar are considered 3rd party for purposes of this contest, and are therefore not allowed.
What about online sources in general? If the online source is a) published by WotC, and b) not replaced by an updated version at a later time, it is eligible. Use it, link it.
Where's the line drawn with "acceptable/unacceptable" for Unearthed Arcana? This will likely vary a bit from Chairman to Chairman. Item Familiars and Gestalt have always been verboten, since before IC migrated to GitP; don't expect that to change. Flaws have similarly always been noted as warranting a deduction; while I am Chairman, I'm extending that to Traits, though they warrant 1/2 the penalty in Elegance that a Flaw would because they're roughly 1/2 as useful. Alternate spell systems, alternate skill systems and alternate crafting rules all create an uneven playing field, and as such, will be disallowed for as long as I am Chairman. Bloodlines are ripe for abuse, and will be strongly discouraged as long as I am Chairman. Note that judges are allowed to look askance at any use of Unearthed Arcana not specifically mentioned above, at their discretion, and otherwise penalize Elegance according to their preference.
What, exactly, does the ban on Leadership mean? As folks have started to try to work around the edges of this one, I'm forced to spell it out more plainly. No Leadership, Draconic Cohort, or Feats that grant a similar ability are allowed EXCEPT Wild Cohort while Amphetryon is chairman. Any PrC you choose with Leadership or a Leadership-analog has that ability entirely ignored for this contest, as it may neither be used nor traded away via any means whatsoever.
What's the minimum score in a category? Assuming an entry is legal, the minimum score in any category is 1. If a judge is convinced that an entry is illegal by the RAW, the judge may give a 0 or decline to score a given entry. Because this contest focuses on Player Characters, an entry that is not technically allowed for a PC, but is viable as an NPC, counts as a legal entry, but may receive a minimum score at the judges' discretion.
How many of these are you going to host? If I can get a volunteer to keep this contest going, I would love to pass the baton to another Chair after this particular contest.
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2013-02-02, 09:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh yeah, Tome of Magic Shadowcasting!
I am on this like a shadow on a sundial.
Amph - I'd be willing to take up the mantle. I've got a fair amount of spare time out at the farm, here.Last edited by Kuulvheysoon; 2013-02-02 at 09:18 PM.
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2013-02-02, 09:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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We're sorry to see you go, amph! I've certainly enjoyed all the challenges I've participated in under your leadership. it would be cool to see you cook again.
oh my gosh, that was my first thought as well. imagine my surprise at discovering that there's no mysteries involved.
I didn't think it was possible, but this class is somehow even more lackluster than shadow sentinel.
if I can't cook this time around (due to lack of inspiration) then I'd be happy to judge
I'm sure you'd make a fine chairman, Kuulvheysoon. You'll certainly have your work cut out for you with all the classes we've cooked up so far.I've got a new fantasy TTRPG about running your own fencing school in a 3 musketeers pastiche setting. Book coming soon.
Check out my NEW sci-fi TTRPG about first contact. Cool alien races, murderous AIs, and more. New expansion featuring rules for ships! New book here NOW!
Iron Chef Medals!
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2013-02-02, 09:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Huh... anyone else think that they maybe got the class skills section swapped for Shadowblade and Shadowsmith? Considering how notorious ToM is for lack of testing/proofreading, it wouldn't surprise me.
Nothing is immediately inspiring me, but I'll let the class stew around in my head for the next couple of days to see if I can come up with anything. If not, I'll throw in my hat to judge.
Amph, I'm sorry to see you go. You've been the chairman for the majority of the time I've been cooking for IC - I first started competing right before Private Pinny passed on the mantle. After over a year of chairing I don't blame you, but you've done a fantastic job!Optimization Showcase in the Playground
Former projects:
Shadowcaster Handbook
Archer Build Compendium
Iron Chef Awards!
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IC LXXVI: Talos
IC LXXV: Alphonse Louise Constant
IC XLIX: Babalon, Queen of Bones
IC XLV: Dead Mists
IC XL: Lycus Blackbeak
IC XXXIX: AM-1468
IC XXXV: Parsifal the Fool
IC XXX: Jal Filius
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2013-02-02, 09:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think I actually have an idea here... the only question is how to avoid the Known Cheese clause...
SpoilerQuite possibly, the best rebuttal I have ever witnessed.
Joker Bard - the DM's solution to the Batman Wizard.
Takahashi no Onisan - The scariest Samurai alive
Incarnum and YOU: a reference guide
Soulmelds, by class and slot: Another Incarnum reference
Multiclassing for Newbies: A reference guide for the rest of us
My homebrew world in progress: Falcora
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2013-02-02, 10:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sorry to see you Amphetryon; but I guess all good things have to come to an end, I'll wait a bit to see the class; but if it is the one I'm thinking about I'll probably will cook something up.
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2013-02-02, 11:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sorry to see you leave as chairman, Amph. You have handled many difficult Iron Chefs with a level head. Hope to see your entries in one of the next ICs.
Thanks for stepping up so quickly Kuulvheysoon.
I have a dumb idea that I might submit.Kolyarut Avatar by Potatocubed.
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2013-02-03, 12:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Unless we have a surplus of volunteers, I'd like to take a stab at judging.
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Hopefully this round won't have so many contestants. I'm fairly sure that we lost a few last round from the intimidating number of dishes.
I've learned a few things, and I'm willing to have another go. Hopefully I can snag last place again!
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2013-02-03, 02:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm in.... might get better than Twelfth this time... bloody flying monkeys...
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2013-02-03, 02:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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My brain has conceived a thing of utmost beauty. This is going to be badass.
If you haven't figured it out yet, I have a build that will cause baby Jesus to cry a single tear of sheer joy. It's that awesome a concept.
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2013-02-03, 06:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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I should have some free time again by the time the judging is due, and I'm running low inspiration for sneak-attack (or sudden strike..) PrCs, so I'll do my best to judge this round.
"Hex grids are the way forward! And slighty to the side..." - Studoku
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2013-02-03, 08:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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So what made you decide to pick Shadowblade Amph?
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Well, damn.
Here I was all pumped up, then I discovered, to my chagrin, that I mixed up Shadowsmith and Shadowblade in my head.
Let's see what we can make of this, shall we?
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2013-02-03, 11:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerQuite possibly, the best rebuttal I have ever witnessed.
Joker Bard - the DM's solution to the Batman Wizard.
Takahashi no Onisan - The scariest Samurai alive
Incarnum and YOU: a reference guide
Soulmelds, by class and slot: Another Incarnum reference
Multiclassing for Newbies: A reference guide for the rest of us
My homebrew world in progress: Falcora
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2013-02-03, 12:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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This is a pretty awesome little contest. How do you decide what prestige to use? Do you take requests?
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2013-02-03, 12:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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I've got a new fantasy TTRPG about running your own fencing school in a 3 musketeers pastiche setting. Book coming soon.
Check out my NEW sci-fi TTRPG about first contact. Cool alien races, murderous AIs, and more. New expansion featuring rules for ships! New book here NOW!
Iron Chef Medals!
Amazing Princess Mononoke avatar by Dispozition
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2013-02-03, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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I should be cooking right now, but I took a break to flip through my books - pretty sure I've got a solid idea. I'll have to see if the pieces all fit together, but thus far it looks like it should...
Optimization Showcase in the Playground
Former projects:
Shadowcaster Handbook
Archer Build Compendium
Iron Chef Awards!
Spoiler
GOLD
IC LXXVI: Talos
IC LXXV: Alphonse Louise Constant
IC XLIX: Babalon, Queen of Bones
IC XLV: Dead Mists
IC XL: Lycus Blackbeak
IC XXXIX: AM-1468
IC XXXV: Parsifal the Fool
IC XXX: Jal Filius
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2013-02-03, 02:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Awsome! Ive always wanted to see how people would handle the 'Singer of concordance' Prc from Races of the Dragon. It always struck me as a flavorful class with some interesting abilities.
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2013-02-03, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-02-03, 03:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yep, I think the idea is to use some pretty horrible "ingredients" in the basis that you can create a nice "meal" out of it. Generally without having it copy another class ability.
As in why use X, when Y does it better, what does the SI bring.
I have my first idea in progress, gonna start a testing!
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2013-02-03, 07:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ohhh I see now. That explains a few things lol. I'm not really experienced enough to know whats easily optimized. >_>
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge In the Playground XLII
Same. Debating if it's worth getting pinged for.