OOTS death pool (thread #4)

[Sniffnoy]

Can anyone just waltz in here and bet? If so, I bet on Sabine.

Wait, did her dismissal with "holy" count as dying?

Yes you can and no it doesn't.

[Gift Jeraff]

Another possible grey area: vampires aren't actually destroyed when reduced to 0 hit points by standard means, unlike most undead (panel 1). Should this be treated like Xykon--even though they can regenerate it is still counted as a death?

I'd say no, since unlike a destroyed lich the soul doesn't leave the body to go form a new one, the body just takes on a new form. It's probably more comparable to negative hit points. Unless the comic depicts the vampire with X's in their eyes. "x_x" trumps all, unless it's in an illusion/dream/etc.

But I wouldn't be opposed to counting it as a death (should it ever happen).

[Sniffnoy]

Huh. Yeah offhand my thought would probably be to count it as a death, but that is a good point. Well, there isn't any ruling on it yet. I don't know, does anyone else have an opinion on the matter? Otherwise I'll probably put a ruling up saying that Gift Jeraff's suggestion is right.

(Or just wait to see if it occurs and if so whether there X-eyes.)

[Oko and Qailee]

Is it too late for me to put in a vote for one General Tarquin?

[Sunken Valley]

By law, should Amun Zora bets not be invalid due to her low appearance quota. If say she died in her next strip, she wouldn't hit 10.

[Silver Swift]

By law, should Amun Zora bets not be invalid due to her low appearance quota. If say she died in her next strip, she wouldn't hit 10.

10 appearances are more like a rule of thumb. You can bet on a character if that character is important enough to the comic. Who is important enough is decided by the thread curator (Sniffnoy), but any named character with more than 10 appearances almost certainly qualifies.

[CRtwenty]

I'm going to vote for Tarquin. Improbable? Maybe but it's worth a shot.

[Kish]

Huh. Yeah offhand my thought would probably be to count it as a death, but that is a good point. Well, there isn't any ruling on it yet. I don't know, does anyone else have an opinion on the matter? Otherwise I'll probably put a ruling up saying that Gift Jeraff's suggestion is right.

(Or just wait to see if it occurs and if so whether there X-eyes.)

I don't think being driven into mist form back to the coffin should count as a death for a vampire.

[CRtwenty]

I don't think being driven into mist form back to the coffin should count as a death for a vampire.

I agree, only actual destruction of the vampire should count.

[Sniffnoy]

OK, people seem pretty agreed on that, I'll make it a ruling.

[Mollez]

So...who bet on Malack?

[Gift Jeraff]

I did! Thank you, Nale!

[Sunken Valley]

Yes!

I'm going to wait before I bet again. But do the fiends count as bets I don't think they should but they've had 7 appearances so

[Chessgeek]

What's that smell?

Smells like victory. And burnt lizard.

@^ I think they have to be named characters to count.

[mhsmith]

Well if Malack counts here (and the comic title "Nothing Lasts Forever" suggests that he's gone), then I'll switch my vote to Belkar.

[ti'esar]

Well if Malack counts here (and the comic title "Nothing Lasts Forever" suggests that he's gone), then I'll switch my vote to Belkar.

Rich confirms: he's toast.

[genderlich]

Alright then. That was unexpected. I'll change my vote to Belkar.

[Sniffnoy]

Yup, that's a death alright. I've updated the first post.

And yeah, I'm going to disallow betting on the summoned fiends at this point. They have no names, less than 10 appearances, and no real story significance. If they get to 10 appearances I guess I'll have to allow it?

[FlawedParadigm]

Hm. Longshot. Tarquin next.

[Sunken Valley]

I was tempted to pick Belkar as my next bet, but I don't think he will die until book 6 or 7. He has a unique voice and he hasn't quite finished developing.

Put me down for Dark Elf Z

[Rob Roy]

Huh. The new strip certainly complicates things. I'm fairly certain one of the LG is going to bite the dust next, and there are only two mortal members of them left. I'm going to stick with Nale, even though Z is probably going to get off'd first.

[FujinAkari]

I am going to flow along with the crowd and say that Zz'diri is the next one to go. His existence is a clear threat to Durkon, he is V's nemesis, and there is no way either of their stories are ending soon.

[Gift Jeraff]

I'll go with Kilkil again. Weak, possibly badly damaged by the explosion, and I can't see any reason why even Tarquin would care that much about him once they're done doing whatever they're doing. And to top it all off, he's a Linear Guild (sort of) kobold.

[Arkhosia]

I doubt Durkula will survive much longer: His master was just killed by Nale. Durkula attacks Nale. Nale's the secondary antagonist.

[ti'esar]

I doubt Durkula will survive much longer: His master was just killed by Nale. Durkula attacks Nale. Nale's the secondary antagonist.

Are you serious? What a waste of a character that would be.

I honestly think this book's pretty much over - if anyone's still going to die, it's the elemental and the fiends, and neither of them count. I'll place my bet once more on Zz'dtri, but I don't think any predictions made now are likely to pay off.

[Mike Havran]

Belkar, but I think that we're done with killing bigger characters for this book and the first to die would be the fiends, or some other unimportant being.

[Silver Swift]

I'm going to refrain from making a new bet for the moment, because I really don't know who to bet on next.

Yup, that's a death alright. I've updated the first post.

And yeah, I'm going to disallow betting on the summoned fiends at this point. They have no names, less than 10 appearances, and no real story significance. If they get to 10 appearances I guess I'll have to allow it?

By the rules as they are now, that seems to be the case. Though this might not be a desirable situation and you could always change the rules.

I'd say just allow it, the goal of this game is accurately predicting the flow of the story and at this point the question as to whether the demons will be able to stay alive long enough for the summon to expire is not exactly clear cut.

Also, just to check, if we were allowed to bet on the fiends and the summon expires before they are killed it doesn't count as a death, right? How about the silicon elemental? (I think it seizes to exist once the spell expires, instead of being sent back to wherever the fiends came from, though I could be wrong about this)

[Kish]

Nale's the secondary antagonist.

...And Durkon is the protagonist, so, um, yeah. Narrative weight definitely not on Nale's side in the clash you propose.

[sam79]

This is a tough call. I think in the short term, it looks like Z could be in trouble. Nale too, but another significant-ish antangonist death so soon after snake guy? Not sure. Pretty sure that Durkon is going to make it. I think the rest of the LG could bug out intact after a bit of a tussle with the Order and Vamp Durkon, and if that is the case, the smart money would be on Belkar. So...yeah. Don't know.

I'll call Z.

[Pory]

Another shiny point, wohoo!

I think there's going to be at least another death before the end of this arc and my vote goes to...Nale.