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[SiuiS]

Happy birthday Lea!

Congratulations Lena!

I just realized that's a pun, thank you Succubus!

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Birthdays depress me, and they should depress everyone else too. That's why, this year, I'll strongly imply I want a surprise party and then go into hiding at a Motel 6 for a few days. Hah! I won't be the only one disappointed.

Stupid caring jerks.

[Philemonite]

Thanks for the support guys, it means a lot.
Like I said, I will take a break from dating.
If someone comes along that's great, but I no longer have the strength to search.
I have my big homebrew project(and I could use some advise if anyone is interested to help) and I am DM-ing two games(and hoping to gather players for third), so that will keep me busy for now. And also work and sleep, that should fill up my time. But enough about me.

Don't you hate it when happy occasions are ruined by something incredibly small?

Hugs?

Hey all! So it is my birthday today! I accept cash, cheque and the skulls of my enemies as tribute :3

I don't have any skulls but how about a happy birthday and a friendly smile(I do have a beautifull smile)

[Asta Kask]

Hey all! So it is my birthday today! I accept cash, cheque and the skulls of my enemies as tribute :3

*hands over bags of wasp "skulls"*

Apparently they eat spiders.

Yeah I checked my books. Human Molecular Genetics says "46,XX or 46, XY in the case of normal human chromosome preparations", "human females and males are respectively 46, XX and 46, XY". Molecular Cell Biology has a table where Homo Sapiens is listed as having 46 chromosomes. Both of these books are some twenty years old, so it's possible they've changed this since then.

The thing is, though, that these are not offering a definition for what it is to be human. They're using shorthand - we all do. So I don't think one should be too hard on them.

[Lentrax]

Hugs for everyone who needs them.

Happy birthday, Lea! I have a couple of skulls here, but they are Ork, and well, kinda trophies of battle.

I will be more than happy to find your enemies and then give you the three best things in life.

[Kittenwolf]

Hugs for everyone who needs them.

Happy birthday, Lea! I have a couple of skulls here, but they are Ork, and well, kinda trophies of battle.

I will be more than happy to find your enemies and then give you the three best things in life.

Ahem...

[Asta Kask]

Conan is an average movie saved by a brilliant soundtrack.

[noparlpf]

Merida's creator isn't happy about the makeover either.

Nice article.

Hey all! So it is my birthday today! I accept cash, cheque and the skulls of my enemies as tribute :3

Anyway. I've been doing some more reading and urgh. People just don't get stuff. I've found one person arguing that objectifying women is feminist cause it is sexuality.

Happy birthday!

Wow, that doesn't even make sense.

I heard back from her, and apparently I was already going to be starting on Progynova, the safer form of E. I must have misheard her with how fast the session passed by. >.> But I should be getting scripts for that and anti-androgens sometime this week then.

That's great. See, it worked out.

I also went shopping for new shoes with my mum yesterday, which I was a bit nervous about cause I didn't want boyish shoes, but I managed to find some nice neutral Converses which I quite like.

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Also had a good conversation with my therapist about my anxiety issues and other things last Friday.

That sounds good too.

*hands over bags of wasp "skulls"*

Apparently they eat spiders.

Yeah I checked my books. Human Molecular Genetics says "46,XX or 46, XY in the case of normal human chromosome preparations", "human females and males are respectively 46, XX and 46, XY". Molecular Cell Biology has a table where Homo Sapiens is listed as having 46 chromosomes. Both of these books are some twenty years old, so it's possible they've changed this since then.

The thing is, though, that these are not offering a definition for what it is to be human. They're using shorthand - we all do. So I don't think one should be too hard on them.

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My Physiology textbook from this semester has a section on reproduction and development. Let's see...I was going to quote the page, but it's a pain. No direct statement of "humans have 46 chromosomes", just an indirect one, which does say 46. Next page, it indirectly mentions that chromosomes can be missing when it says that XXY and XO are possibilities. Well, it's an intro-level book.
My Genetics textbook says, "Human cells, for example, contain 24 distinct kinds of chromosomes..." in the introductory section. Let's see...the section on aneuploidy is far enough in that they assume you know that normally humans have 46 chromosomes, and just goes into what aneuploidy is and some common examples in humans (Turner, Klinefelter, Down, a few others).

[Asta Kask]

Textbooks:

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My Physiology textbook from this semester has a section on reproduction and development. Let's see...I was going to quote the page, but it's a pain. No direct statement of "humans have 46 chromosomes", just an indirect one, which does say 46. Next page, it indirectly mentions that chromosomes can be missing when it says that XXY and XO are possibilities. Well, it's an intro-level book.
My Genetics textbook says, "Human cells, for example, contain 24 distinct kinds of chromosomes..." in the introductory section. Let's see...the section on aneuploidy is far enough in that they assume you know that normally humans have 46 chromosomes, and just goes into what aneuploidy is and some common examples in humans (Turner, Klinefelter, Down, a few others).

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Well, they go into chromosomal abnormalities - especially the one on Human Genetics.

And always remember, girls, boys and others, that as you walk down the path of life to stop and pet the cats. They may not be particularly interested in you, but it feels good anyway.

[Dudebot2000]

The movie is surprisingly true to the source material. Yes, the story of the movie has nothing to do with the short stories, but the themes and more importantly the feeling of high adventure are very well translated to movie screen.

[Asta Kask]

Dawkins on how a gay gene could be favored by natural selection.

[Dudebot2000]

Dawkins on how a gay gene could be favored by natural selection.

Pretty interesting. I knew of the first one, but not of the two other theories.
Funny how unsure Dawkins was talking about a gay gene to a homosexual. He was stuttering very often.

[Heliomance]

The movie is surprisingly true to the source material. Yes, the story of the movie has nothing to do with the short stories, but the themes and more importantly the feeling of high adventure are very well translated to movie screen.

Wait - which movie? What?

[Eldest]

Hey all! So it is my birthday today! I accept cash, cheque and the skulls of my enemies as tribute :3

Anyway. I've been doing some more reading and urgh. People just don't get stuff. I've found one person arguing that objectifying women is feminist cause it is sexuality.

Happy birthday! Well, I don't have any skulls or money, but I do have some hugs and...
Wait, that makes no sense. That isn't feminist...

*wanders off for a bit, distant screaming*

Where was I? Happy birthday, I got you a skull! Fresh, too. In entirely unrelated news, I don't think the guy who said that will be on the internet much now.

[The Succubus]

Where was I? Happy birthday, I got you a skull! Fresh, too. In entirely unrelated news, I don't think the guy who said that will be on the internet much now.

This is why tigers are awesome. ^_^

[KenderWizard]

Happy Birthday Lea! Enjoy your skull-fest!

I heard back from her, and apparently I was already going to be starting on Progynova, the safer form of E. I must have misheard her with how fast the session passed by. >.> But I should be getting scripts for that and anti-androgens sometime this week then.

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I also went shopping for new shoes with my mum yesterday, which I was a bit nervous about cause I didn't want boyish shoes, but I managed to find some nice neutral Converses which I quite like.

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Also had a good conversation with my therapist about my anxiety issues and other things last Friday.

Three wins! Well done you!


Textbooks often choose wrong-but-pretty-close over accurate.

[noparlpf]

Textbooks often choose wrong-but-pretty-close over accurate.

Yeah, or convenient-simplification-because-really-this-is-just-undergrad.

[Coidzor]

They didn't ask me this time. We discussed it before the Super Bowl party they had in February. And this was my friend's graduation party, so I didn't want to take the moment away from her by making it also my "coming out to a lot of her friends and family" time.

And no one was following anyone's lead in this instance. Lots of people were looking around for girls with earrings. Heck, I even did it too. It was just a really fast thing, and I wouldn't have expected anyone who I wasn't out to to have included me in that, but the people I was out to didn't do it, either.

I don't really understand what you're saying here...

So she asked you ages and ages ago to not be out around her dad, or...?

I suppose it's still possible that since no one suggested you that they figured you were verboten, but that does make it seem a lot less likely, aye. Seems like you might want to have a chat with at least the hostess in the near-to-immediate future.

I was suggesting that if you didn't have one on one meatspace time that you were pretty much left with IMs, Email, Letters, that sort of thing.

And, really, if they have that little respect for you that it ruins seeing them and destroys the pretense of friendship, you're better off doing it sooner rather than continuing the charade.

[Philemonite]

I have an unexplained urge to listen to this, so I guess the depression is over.

way off topic

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Is it me, or does the blond one look like Leelee Sobieski?

[Coidzor]

No idea Asteron Questar, it's blocked in my country.

Wait - which movie? What?

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Conan the Barbarian with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Neo Leviathan linked to Conan the Barbarian the Musical in response to Lentrax's birthday wishes to Lea Plath, if I'm following this all correctly.

Speaking of which, Happy Birthday, Lea!

[Philemonite]

No idea Asteron Questar, it's blocked in my country.

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The name of song is Beautiful life, does your country not support optimism?
What about this version?

[Asta Kask]

Pretty interesting. I knew of the first one, but not of the two other theories.
Funny how unsure Dawkins was talking about a gay gene to a homosexual. He was stuttering very often.

Well, the LGB community has a history of attacking people who try to explain homosexuality for trying to find a "cure". It's not entirely unfounded, but I'd still hope there were more gays who understood the sheer power of curiosity.

[Astrella]

Well, the LGB community has a history of attacking people who try to explain homosexuality for trying to find a "cure". It's not entirely unfounded, but I'd still hope there were more gays who understood the sheer power of curiosity.

The point is that it's most of the time brought up in wrong contexts. The origins of queerness have 0% relevance when talking about human rights. And it's very tiring sometimes because opponents talk about the origins and reasons all the time to tear you down... and to hear it come from allies as well then and it also can carry a feeling of being a curiosity sometimes rather than just a human being who you empathize with.

(And I'd be careful with using curiosity as a justification, cause I've encountered a lot of intrusiveness and disrespecting boundaries with that used as justification. Not saying that you do that.)

[noparlpf]

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The name of song is Beautiful life, does your country not support optimism?
What about this version?

Is this it? This works in the US. Or at least where I am.

The point is that it's most of the time brought up in wrong contexts. The origins of queerness have 0% relevance when talking about human rights. And it's very tiring sometimes because opponents talk about the origins and reasons all the time to tear you down... and to hear it come from allies as well then and it also can carry a feeling of being a curiosity sometimes rather than just a human being who you empathize with.

(And I'd be careful with using curiosity as a justification, cause I've encountered a lot of intrusiveness and disrespecting boundaries with that used as justification. Not saying that you do that.)

I think it's neat for like, a classroom setting, because neurobio and genetics are cool. If I were talking about human rights I wouldn't bring up the how or why of it because that's not relevant.

[Philemonite]

Is this it? This works in the US. Or at least where I am.

That's the song, but that version doesn't work here.

[Dudebot2000]

@Asta
That might be so, but Dawkins is usually a very outspoken guy and has no problems with talking about genetic or memetic origins of faith with religious persons. I was surprised to see him struggle so much while talking science of his chosen specialisation just because it's about the 'gay gene'.
I think that when talking about something that might sound wrong, it's easier to avoid errors when talking fluently.

[Astrella]

Lena linked me Venus Envy the other day and I spent most of Sunday trawlling through the archive. It was really eye opening about what it's like to be a transwoman and all the difficulties you come up against. It's a shame the comic has kind of stalled but it was still very sweet in places. ^_^

Glad you liked it!
Luckily most of us don't have to deal with the likes of Grace though. >.>

(Which reminds me, it might be neat to have a little list of queer-related webcomics and other media in the original post?)

Three wins! Well done you!

Hm hm.
It was a pretty nice boost in confidence after all the anxiety of the weeks before~

I think it's neat for like, a classroom setting, because neurobio and genetics are cool. If I were talking about human rights I wouldn't bring up the how or why of it because that's not relevant.

Hm hm, definitely. I think it's just something to watch out for outside of those contexts, you know? Like, I think it's probably best to not assume that because someone is queer they're also interested in causes and origins.

[Mystic Muse]

This is why tigers are awesome. ^_^

The wonderful thing about tigers is tigers are wonderful chaps. They're loaded with vim and with vigor. They love to leap in your laps! They're jumpy, bumpy, clumpy, thumpy Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun! But the most wonderful thing about tigers is there's more than one!

[Lycunadari]

Happy birthday, Lea!

@Lycun - just for future reference, what pronouns and names should I use to address you in future? =)

Pronouns: neutral ones, please. Both they/their and ze/hir are fine.
Names: Juniper would be great for now so I can test if I really like that name. But Lucy is also still fine, as are variations/short forms of Lycunadari.

– Juniper

[Partysan]

Happy birthday, Lea!



Pronouns: neutral ones, please. Both they/their and ze/hir are fine.
Names: Juniper would be great for now so I can test if I really like that name. But Lucy is also still fine, as are variations/short forms of Lycunadari.

– Juniper

While we're at it: for the future, how do we adress you in German? "They" doesn't really carry over well...


Happy birthday, Lea! Skulls will be delivered in a hollowed cake sometime later.