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    It is not listed, and it is the base of my dragon army of [redacted].
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    I believe it defaults to class level if not specified? Pretty sure I asked a similar question in a previous contest.
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    I thought it was character level by default. I think I had to ask for Scion of Tem-Et-Nu. Time to go source hunting...

    *edit* Yeah, here we go:

    Unless otherwise noted, a supernatural ability has an effective caster level equal to the creature’s Hit Dice.
    Unless there's a more specific rule for supernatural abilities granted as class features, that looks like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_S View Post
    I thought it was character level by default. I think I had to ask for Scion of Tem-Et-Nu. Time to go source hunting...
    You could be right. It's been a while. Also, pretty sure that was the same contest I asked for, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_S View Post
    I thought it was character level by default. I think I had to ask for Scion of Tem-Et-Nu. Time to go source hunting...

    *edit* Yeah, here we go:



    Unless there's a more specific rule for supernatural abilities granted as class features, that looks like it.
    Was just going to post that myself, but you swordsaged me by a good fifteen or twenty minutes.

    I found it with a "supernatural ability caster level" Google search.
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    Oh dear, stupid Vaz. I used to love LMGTFY'ing people.

    Thanks guys. Doesn't actually change much, if I'm honest, as everyone has the same, was just interesting to note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaz View Post
    Oh dear, stupid Vaz. I used to love LMGTFY'ing people.

    Thanks guys. Doesn't actually change much, if I'm honest, as everyone has the same, was just interesting to note.
    LMGTFY'ing???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callin View Post
    LMGTFY'ing???
    You had to know this was coming.

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    Heh I was just about to ask. I am so glad I clicked that link.
    I think I'm going to have to submit 2 entries. It is just too tough to decide between these two. At least I am likely to get some good points in originality.
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    I actually didnt lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callin View Post
    I actually didnt lol.
    Yeah, it was funnier about three years ago.

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    Computer crashed recieving an email as i was about to save my build having just filled out the Table, skills and all. Rargh. Email notifier, uninstalled.

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    Finished a build and then realized that it could be better if I just swapped out one level near the start. But that would be re-doing skills ... again.

    I am NOT re-doing skills for the umpteenth time, so the build will just have to be happy where it is (it's still quite good).
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    Might be worth giving an Adaptation section where you detail the swap.

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    I was considering that, but after re-reading a section of rules I'm scratching my head over whether or not it would work, so I'm going to omit it entirely.

    So, builds, charts, and strategies are done. Now I just need to put together fluff and level breakdowns.
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    got a build finally. now to not do like i did last time...

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    got my build more or less together. i think it's going to be stronger than my initial estimation. just need to review it, and see what else i can squeeze in.
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    Complete and submitted! Excited for the reveal.

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    Blech...

    Just can't get my head motivated/round ToT, so I'm going to say I'm out at this point.

    I may see if I can judge, I'll post criteria in the next few days if I decide it's something I can commit to!
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    This class is being very difficult. The average BA is just punishing. I've finally been able to wrangle something together.
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    dude the bab is kicking my ass

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    It's not written down except for a lot of shorthand notes in a google doc, but I'm feeling pretty confident that this iteration of the build is a keeper. (Granted, I thought that about a couple of the other iterations, too...)

    I also have a fully completed build that's been statted up for days now, but I'm not sure I'm going to submit that one. I like it, but I don't necessarily love it. I'll think on that one, but I'm leaning toward only submitting one this contest.
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    TO HECK WITH IT. Ditched current build because I just could not get it powerful enough. So going with one of my earlier builds that has no Originality but more power and still some flavor.

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    Urf. Just realized I forgot to meet skill prerequisites for one of my classes in time. Time to re-skill and re-submit. Yuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Viscount View Post
    This class is being very difficult. The average BA is just punishing. I've finally been able to wrangle something together.
    Yep the BAB kicked my second build to dust.

    Quote Originally Posted by Piggy Knowles View Post
    It's not written down except for a lot of shorthand notes in a google doc, but I'm feeling pretty confident that this iteration of the build is a keeper. (Granted, I thought that about a couple of the other iterations, too...)

    I also have a fully completed build that's been statted up for days now, but I'm not sure I'm going to submit that one. I like it, but I don't necessarily love it. I'll think on that one, but I'm leaning toward only submitting one this contest.
    You can always mention the build once all the sheets are revealed.

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    yea I plan to mention the builds I dont use this round

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    Perhaps I did things wrong, but I wasn't actually having any problem with BAB. Perhaps it'll hurt me in the Power ratings, but it's not like I'm going to second guess me build (at least not until I see how badly it did, and I'll second guess myself next time around).
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    Unfortunately I'm going to have to back out, I just don't have time to finish a good build. Maybe next week.

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    I'm backing out for two reasons. One it's finals week for me and two I'm having a hard time making a build that is both powerful and doesn't completely overpower the SI. I could probably come up with something if i had more time. Maybe I can compete next month.

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