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    Wow. Elan's useful.
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    Awesome sauce! Just like he did in SSDT!

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    Wow, nice character growth for Elan. I feel bad for him though, realizing that a lot of what he wants is impossible.

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    Hard to believe it was Elan who figured it out, but then again, he is the one with experience casting illusions.
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    Perhaps Roy was wrong and Elan, despite his low intelligence score, does actually have a decent wisdom score. This required quite a bit of insight on his part.

    Which also made it even sadder. Abandoning a major amount of his optimism and naive outlook on life must have been a major step for him.
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    Okay I thought that was going to end much more tragically than it did. Back to the quest!
    Oh, bleep.

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    I didn't expect Elan to be the one to figure it out, but, as usual, it makes sense in hindsight.
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    I love the unswirling effect...

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    Points to anybody who said Elan's improbable fantasies would be the tipping point.

    Double points to anyone who thought Elan would be the first to be tipped off.


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    should've known elan would figure it out, since he knows tropes so well as a bard. thought belkar was the one to do it since he died in the vision. course belkar may still be enthralled in his own private vision since we don't see his eyes in the last panels

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    I want to give Elan a hug even more than usual. Like look how far he's come, it's sweet but it's so sad to have to come to terms with your family being so fundamentally messed up.

    I laughed out loud at that final panel, especially when that exact argument almost word-for-word was indeed trotted out on the boards here as evidence Xykon and Redcloak were illusory. It was a good point... then and now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marelt Ekiran View Post
    Perhaps Roy was wrong and Elan, despite his low intelligence score, does actually have a decent wisdom score. This required quite a bit of insight on his part.

    Which also made it even sadder. Abandoning a major amount of his optimism and naive outlook on life must have been a major step for him.
    Even a character with a low Wisdom score can occasionally experience a moment of enlightenment. We have had several examples of this with Belkar as well.

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    Thing is, Elan does actually have a decent Wisdom score. So it's not completely out-of-character for him to notice these things.
    Props for the "disillusionment" effect. The rippling looked cool, as did the rest of the strip.
    Also, this strip proves, or at least supports, the theory that they were in a shared illusion. Now, WHAT HAPPENS TO BELKAR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pearl jam View Post
    Even a character with a low Wisdom score can occasionally experience a moment of enlightenment. We have had several examples of this with Belkar as well.
    Yeah, never mind. I suppose that even a character with a low score rolls a 20 sometimes.

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    I notice the interesting fact that we still haven't seen anything about what's happening with Belkar, even after the illusion is broken. I wonder if the illusion wasn't broken for him? He wasn't at the "wedding" for Elan to talk into breaking free after all.
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    And genre-savviness wins the day again.

    Methinks Belkar is still stuck, though.
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    Wow. I was definitely expecting Elan to be the one to break them out of the illusion, but with a Bardic Lore check on the appropriate timing of a "happy ending illusion" instead of a realization that his "happy ending" may not be a feasible one.

    Bravo.

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    I have had a thought reasoning:

    We understand that Belkar's death is part of the group's most inner desire. Which is why he probably had a dreamscape different than the rest of the party.

    Which means he probably had his own hallucination of his most inner desires realized.


    Now the question of truth:

    Do we want to witness Belkar's most inner desires?

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    Awesome episode. Elan is really cool when it's about storytelling. The intelligence versus wisdom dichotomy aside, Elan does have a quite specialized intellect. And he's really good at his specialty.

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    Wow, I think Elan figuring it out is the most believable. He's the most trope-savvy... everyone else just went along with the flow.
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    Amazing!
    Elans knowledge about illusions and narrative structure timely paid off!
    Feel a bit sad for him, as a child-man as he is, must be hard to realize that most of the things he craves for just cannot be. Also dead as a doornail, aye.

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    My earlier post:

    Quote Originally Posted by RMS Oceanic View Post
    Assuming that the Order is not rescued from without - someone like V coming along and dispelling the illusion or something causing them to snap to their senses - it would be interesting to speculate on who is the first to break the spell and why.

    Least likely is Roy, because of his lawful tendency to accept the situation as presented. Belkar would be an interesting choice. Perhaps the runes can't comprehend what his Lotus fantasy would be like and basically stop working on him. Also the question of whether it works on Cats is brought up, and Mister Scruffy would possibly attempt to rouse Belkar.

    Which leaves us with Haley and Elan. Rationally Haley is the one most likely to suspect a bluff, and could definitely think that whatever good thing is happening is too easy for them. Elan could also use his sense of narrative flow and realise what just happened makes no narrative sense. However I think if Elan breaks the spell, it would be for a different reason.

    Picture this: Regardless of whether they're in a shared dream or each in their own world, I think Elan's fantasy would include Tarquin and Nale coming along and giving an almost-believable-if-you-don't-think-about-it explanation for how they're going to give up their evil ways and get down to spending time with him...and this is the deal breaker. In this scenario, as much as Elan would like a big happy family, I believe he has matured enough as a character to realise it isn't going to happen, not like this anyway, so that's what breaks the spell. I am hoping that Elan gets to pull off a win of some sort in this Pyramid, given the already high costs they've sunk into this conflict.
    This is close enough for me to say called it!

    Good job Elan. Pretty bittersweet that he admits this to himself, but it's a wonderful piece of character development.
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    *pumps fist*

    Yes, bard to the rescue. Ok, it's good that they finally snapped out of it, but Belkar's still off-frame, and so is everything else. I can't bare to look at what's beyond that frame.

    *tries to peek*

    Dammit, the suspense is killing me!

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    Dammit Giant!

    The hero giving up the perfect life because it's not real and he has things to do is right about my favorite sequence in every work it happens.

    I hate you forever for doing this to us.

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    Elan got character development when I wasn't looking?! Aww yeah!
    ... he still deserves a hug for acknowledging his dreams will never happen, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cikomyr View Post
    Do we want to witness Belkar's most inner desires?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMS Oceanic View Post
    My earlier post:



    This is close enough for me to say called it!

    Good job Elan. Pretty bittersweet that he admits this to himself, but it's a wonderful piece of character development.
    Yup, you definitely called that one. Go elan go! :)

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    I knew they kept Elan around for something! I wonder if he's seen the most significant character arc over the course of the story?

    Also, love the large panel with the illusion snapping. Brilliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashi View Post
    Elan got character development when I wasn't looking?! Aww yeah!
    ... he still deserves a hug for acknowledging his dreams will never happen, though.
    No, but now he can have a realistic dream that can happen.
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