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    Default Is there a classless D20 system?

    I'm rolling ideas around, and one of them is an over-the-top action fest based on the Expendables. The D20 system seems like the natural choice for something like that, but I don't see a place for classes in it.
    Is there a homebrewed or official point-buy system where you just buy skills and feats and hit points with experience or whatever'?
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    Default Re: Is there a classless D20 system?

    There is Mutants & Masterminds. There is the semi-classless variant of True20. If you are not entirely set on d20, there is Unisystem.

    Alternatively, you can just drop all pretension to being classy and play BADASS, because that's the best solution for a The Expendables game.
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    Default Re: Is there a classless D20 system?

    The D20 Modern classes would work well in that sort of setting. And they're designed to be multiclassed fairly freely, so you can mostly just pick and choose which class's talents and bonus feats you want.

    It also helps to make sure each character has his or her own schtick, and that the party can handle most situations.


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    Default Re: Is there a classless D20 system?

    There is BESM d20, it -does- have classes but you can easily play without them with a relatively minimal amount of effort. It has a bunch of point buy abilities that are core to it's gameplay, which can admittedly make things unbalanced and broken if you aren't careful as the GM. It's an acronym for Big Eyes, Small Mouth (anime) after all.

    If you don't want to put any work into classless character generation, you could just have everyone be an Adventurer. They just get 5 character points per level, and you can sprinkle in a few more rewarded Character Points every session or so.

    Honestly though, there are easy to get Rank 2 and Rank 3 abilities (arguably even Rank 1) that will do things like have a person jump 60 feet in the air, or run at 25 kilometers/miles per hour. It is entirely possible this option won't work for you.
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    Default Re: Is there a classless D20 system?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Rose Dragon View Post
    There is Mutants & Masterminds. There is the semi-classless variant of True20.
    Both of these. M&M might wind up a bit higher power than you wanted, being built for superhero games, but it can work for an action movie type thing, and it's entirely point buy. (There's also an SRD for 3e).

    True20 is a decent option as well-- it's class-based, but the "classes" are mostly a chassis with pick-your-own-abilities, and it has very clear-cut rules for designing custom classes.
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    Default Re: Is there a classless D20 system?

    All flesh must be eaten has alternative d20 rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmerask View Post
    All flesh must be eaten has alternative d20 rules.
    At which point I have to ask, if you paid money for such a wonderful system as Unisystem, why would you use the inferior d20 conversion rules?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rose Dragon View Post
    Alternatively, you can just drop all pretension to being classy and play BADASS, because that's the best solution for a The Expendables game.
    Is that a system?
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    It is a system, yes. I got it when it was free on RPGNow.com. I suppose it can still be found on Stargazer Games' page.

    Here's a link, but I can't check whether it works or not right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rose Dragon View Post
    At which point I have to ask, if you paid money for such a wonderful system as Unisystem, why would you use the inferior d20 conversion rules?
    I didnīt say I do, just that its possible :D

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    Default Re: Is there a classless D20 system?

    I can also vouch for Hollowpoint as a game that does a great job of emulating that exact genre. Expendables, Deadly Viper Assassination Squad, even a little bit of what you'd get if James Bond were a team gig.

    I'll also second the "BADASS" RPG.
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    Default Re: Is there a classless D20 system?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Rose Dragon View Post
    It is a system, yes. I got it when it was free on RPGNow.com. I suppose it can still be found on Stargazer Games' page.

    Here's a link, but I can't check whether it works or not right now.
    Heh. I just read this and it looks amazing. Really simple, mind you, but a ton of fun.
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