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    Oh, ****.

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    Roy really should know better than to tempt fate like that.
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    Just stay hidden behind that wall for the next (concentration) many rounds, then run like heck.

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    Oh, ****.
    Exactly what I said when I saw her. Bad time for a Sending.
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    Mwahaha take that Nale!
    Now the question: Is the sending from the decimated resistance or Hinjo's forces? I seriously hope it's Hinjo's army converging on the pyramid, but it probably won't be.
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    So now we know the timeline. Xykon (thinks he) has his phylactery back and is on the move. He's in the astral plane now and is thus only a day or two's worth of spells from Redcloak behind.

    Things should get real interesting.

    Edit: This comic is why I think this sending Haley is getting is letting her know the Resistance is crushed and Xykon is on the move: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0865.html
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    And now Haley knows that Xykon is on the move. This should lend a greater sense of urgency to the Order's actions.
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    Wow. Last panel, it looks like they're probably getting news of Xykon. Roy is not going to be happy about that.
    Also, I really enjoy the banter between Nale and Malack. I look forward to the end of their mission when they can cut loose against each other.
    Also, side note, this is the first time I've managed to post on the first page of the discussion thread. How about that for good timing.

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    Oh my gosh. Oh jeez all this is getting tense. Can't wait to see how this goes!

    Someone check my thinking, but Sendings can only be heard by whoever they are sent to right? Just want to be sure of it...
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    I guess bad news are finally reaching our heroes

    Roy's face when seeing Durkon





    on the other hand, two strips in a row
    but just as some things can be right and useless at the same time, can’t something be wrong...and priceless?


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    Exactly what I said when I saw her. Bad time for a Sending.
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    So is a sending audible to people to whom it's not addressed?

    This is a heck of a cliffhanger to end on either way. I'm already impatient for the next strip.

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    I would SO like to see Malack and Nale go at it...
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    OOTS, keep behind the wall, and just let Xykon and Redcloak wipe the floor with those losers.

    then you can attack Xykon and Redcloak yourselves! oh wait….

    thats right Xykon and Redcloak are epic level spellcasters. attacking them is even worse.

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    I just went to brush my teeth, and then this!

    Oh man. Ooooooohhhh man this is bad. Closing in indeed.

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    There is no text in the rules to say whether or not the Sending is audible to everyone, or only one person.

    There's a comic linked below which suggests Haley's expression relates to what the Sending portends, not to being heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gopher View Post
    So is a sending audible to people to whom it's not addressed?
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    Well, Xykon's appearance is imminant. I'm seriously beginning to wonder what Tarquin is up to. Keep in mind he did something worth keeping secret before the Guild left Bleedingham.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    thats right Xykon and Redcloak are epic level spellcasters. attacking them is even worse.
    Xykon's epic. Redcloak is level 17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRidley View Post
    There is no text in the rules to say whether or not the Sending is audible to everyone, or only one person.

    I'm leaning toward everyone, given Haley's expression, is the correct interpretation for OotS.
    Unless Haley is the only one who can see it because it is being sent to her...no one else seems to be reacting.
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    Yeah, I fixed that after double checking uses of Sending in the archive.
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    So they had a Chuul and what was the other thing with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRidley View Post
    There is no text in the rules to say whether or not the Sending is audible to everyone, or only one person.

    I'm leaning toward everyone, given Haley's expression, is the correct interpretation for OotS.
    We had always played it as only the person it was targeted at could hear it. But when I re-read it last night, I didn't see anything about it one way or the other.

    Hence my, "Oh, ****."

    But as Grey_Wolf_c pointed out, the comic has already shown One Person Only.

    So.... Maybe the Sending is going to Haley for some reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRidley View Post
    Xykon's epic. Redcloak is level 17.
    Considering how rare casters capable of 9th level spells are in OotS world, he may as well be epic.

    We have yet to see Malack cast anything close to that. Team Evil is still an order of magnitude stronger than Tarquin et all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porthos View Post
    But as Grey_Wolf_c pointed out, the comic has already shown One Person Only.

    So.... Maybe the Sending is going to Haley for some reason?
    Yeah, I fixed up my post after seeing that comic.

    As for why Haley, because Niu is the one who had to relay the info, and she can describe Haley a lot better than she can Roy. Or that's what I'm going to assume, anyway.
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    Does anyone recognize who's doing the sending?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyVenture View Post
    He's in the astral plane now and is thus only a day or two's worth of spells from Redcloak behind.
    It's worse (better?) than that. The caster is a fresh face, which means she's probably one of Hinjo's group who rested and prepared Sending once Hinjo got the message that Xykon was one day away... and resting takes one day.

    Xykon is cleared for teleport RIGHT NOW.
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    Unless Haley is the only one who can see it because it is being sent to her...no one else seems to be reacting.
    Mr. Scruffy is also reacting.
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    It's not audible to anyone else, no. But her attempts to respond would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stsasser View Post
    Mr. Scruffy is also reacting.
    That might be more to how near Malack and Durkon are and what they did to Belkar last time they were this close.
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