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2013-08-20, 02:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Is the Sun Blade inspired by the Sommerswerd?
For anybody knowing the Lone Wolf series of gamebooks by Joe Dever, what do you think of the following:
Is the D&D Sun Blade (link to the 3.5 version, but I think it already existed in 1st and 2nd editions) directly inspired by the Sommerswerd?
I'm not saying they're identical (the Sommerswerd would be an epic weapon at the very least) but there are many similarities, even beyond the sun theme.
For example, the fact a Sun Blade can wielded either as a short sword or a bastard sword -- in the gamebooks you receive the weaponskill bonus with the Sommerswerd either if you have it with short sword of longsword. Plus the double damage against undead, etc.Spoiler
DM: At the end of the meal, the innkeeper is bringing you the cheese plate. Roll for initiative.
PC: Excuse me, what?
DM: I said, roll for initiative. They like their cheese really ripe in these parts. They have the ooze type.
"Excuse me, but... is it a GOOD or a BAD thing when the DM can't help bursting into laughter every time he hears the phrase 'level-appropriate encounter'? No, just curious..."
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2013-08-20, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is the Sun Blade inspired by the Sommerswerd?
I thought it was common knowledge that these were basically the same weapon.
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2013-08-20, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is the Sun Blade inspired by the Sommerswerd?
I have always just like the sun blade for it's stylistic flair. Making it a named weapon is pretty much a pre-requisite for using it, I believe.
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2013-08-22, 08:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-08-22, 09:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is the Sun Blade inspired by the Sommerswerd?
Slightly off topic, but if anyone doesn't know what this is but wants to find out, all of the Lone Wolf books are available free from this site.
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2013-08-23, 01:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is the Sun Blade inspired by the Sommerswerd?
Personally I think it pushing it for it to be a copy. Iirc the Sunblade came out in Unearthed Arcana, published 1985, and the first Lone Wolf book was 1984. Yes that does just give time for it to be a late entry, but blades linked to the sun are not exactly an unusual idea - there's one in the original I6 Castle Ravenloft (1983).
Also it's been a very long time since I read any of the Lone Wolf books - did the Sommerswerd wield like a short sword?
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2013-08-23, 04:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-08-23, 04:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is the Sun Blade inspired by the Sommerswerd?
Some of the gamebooks have been reimagined as (not very good) novels. I downloaded the first to Kindle when it was free. 'Eclipse of the Kai', Joe Dever, naturally, with John Grant.
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2013-08-23, 07:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is the Sun Blade inspired by the Sommerswerd?
@St Fan
Nah, as someone else said, swords and suns are popular symbols that are linked quite often. Although there is some resemblance.
@Trouvere
Not really surprised here. Most books I read that featured a second author were slightly flawed. *cough* new multiplayer books *cough*What can change the nature of a man?
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2013-08-23, 09:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is the Sun Blade inspired by the Sommerswerd?
It's pretty unlikely unless you find a way to travel in time. The Sun Blade was at the latest introduced for I6: Castle Ravenloft in 1983 and Joe Dever published the first Lone Wolf book in 1984.
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2013-08-23, 03:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is the Sun Blade inspired by the Sommerswerd?
I always thought it was based on the "Sun sword" from Thundarr the Barbarian.
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2013-08-26, 08:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is the Sun Blade inspired by the Sommerswerd?
Which was a lightsaber, which was probably something else to do with the stupid psychic crystal thing.