LGBTAitp #41 - Imprecise Terminology Supercenter

[Zorg]

Hello, all! This is the forty first incarnation of the LGBTAitP thread! The thread is to support, celebrate and discuss anything that falls outside the bounds of what is hetero/cisnormative.

It is first of all a support thread, and then an education thread.

If you want answers about some of the more difficult and trigger inducing aspects of LGBTA, there are a number of people listed below who can answer questions - though no-one should feel like they can't post their question more publicly because of this.

Please note that although the title of the thread names only the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Asexual communities, it is intended as an all inclusive environment. Everyone is welcome. L, G, B,T, A, Q, I, A, N, V, P, R, Q, Ω, ♅, all combinations of those letters and symbols, everyone. As long as they behave themselves.

If you have a question or two about LGBTA+ matters, you can ask it here! You can ask for advice and support in here. And you can just hang out with all of the lovely people, too, if you like.

In addition, many members are willing to give private advice one on one, either through email or PM. The best way to do this is asking for PM help in thread, or else to PM one of the following people:

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Name: Especially familiar with the topic(s) of
KenderWizard: General/basics, gender and feminism, bisexuality
Musashi: General/basics, asexuality/demisexuality, depression
noparlpf: General/basics, asexuality, greysexuality, biology, Skype
Lea Plath: Genderfluidity
Lycunadari: Genderqueer and agendered
Eldest: General/basics, bisexuality, polyamory, pansexuality will Skype(voice if needed, no video)
Karen Lynn: General/basics, pansexuality, polyamory, will Skype(no voice or video, however)
HMS Sophia: Trans stuff (esp hormones)
Lix Lorn: General/basics
Tanail: Trans stuff (esp emotional issues), Skype(no voice or video, however)
Absol197: Gender identity issues
Warkitty: Academic/technical discussions
Lentrax: General/basics, depression, bullying
Wormwood74: Transgender legal issues, transgender outside contacts
Astrella: GSRM rights, feminism, trans stuff, Skype
Asteron Questar: Relationships, depression
Mystic Muse: Skype-y goodness.
Socratov: Skype-ness
Chess435: Skype
Irish Musician: PM, Rants/Venting
Metditto: PM/Skype for L, T, GQ, BDSM(Off-thread or Spoiler Triggered), demisexual, feminism, therapy, depression, dissociative identities
inuyasha: Shoulder on which to cry, someone to listen
Partysan: PM/Skype, polyamory, pansexuality, BDSM(Off-thread or Spoiler Triggered), Rants/Venting

Some people are also willing to talk off-board, through Skype or email or other means, this is especially useful if your question involves board-forbidden topics such as religion or politics. Also, we can't (and ethically shouldn't!) give medical advice. If you need medical advice, please see a professional!


Here are the rules of this thread!

• Everyone is welcome. Let's try to keep from seeming otherwise.
• Keep this topic free of politics and religion. (so, don't violate the board rules, plz)
• It's beyond the scope of this thread to discuss whether LGBT is "Right." (And really, most discussions probably should avoid moralizing too much anyway)
• Please refrain from posting sexually explicit content. (Keep it friendly as well as board safe )
• If you know something's a trigger for someone, please put it in a spoiler with a relevant tag in front of it.

Here are the links for the previous threads, where much of use or interest may be found:

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1. LGBT people in the playground
   
2. LGBT people in the playground - part II
   
3. LGBTitp - part III
   
4. LGBTitp 4: We are a family?
   
5. LGBTitp - Part Five
   
6. LGBTitp - Part Six
   
7. LGBTitp - Part Seven
   
8. LGBTitp - Part Eight
   
9. LGBTitp - Part Nine
   
10. LGBTAitp - Part Ten
    
11. LGBTAitp - Part Eleven
    
12. LGBTAitp - Part Twelve
    
13. LGBTAitp - Part Thirteen
    
14. LGBTAitp - Part Fourteen
    
15. LGBTAitp - Part Fifteen
    
16. LGBTAitp - Part Sixteen
    
17. LGBTAitp - Part Seventeen
    
18. LGBTAitp - Part Eighteen!
    
19. LGBTAitp - Part Nineteen
    
20. LGBTAitp - Part Twenty - Critical Hit!
    
21. LGBTAitp - Part Twenty-One - BLACKJACK!
    
22. LGBTAitP Part 22: The Best There Is
    
23. LGBTAitP Part 23: Et tu, ~Bianca?
    
24. LGBTAitP: Alphabet Soup-with 24 different Vitamins!
    
25. LGBTAitP part 25: Doing Away With Subtitles
    
26. LGBTAitP 26: No Time For Snappy Titles
    
27. LGBTAitP 27: Of Shoes, and Ships, and Sealing Wax
    
28. LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
    
29. LGBTAitP #29: The Rainbow Outreach Program
    
30. LGBTAitP 30: Free Cuddles (Enquire Within)
    
31. LGBTAitP #31: Cuddles Are On Back Order. Have Some Snuggles!
    
32. LGBTAitp #32: The Great Plushie Invasion!
    
33. LGBTAitp #33: The Thread at the End of the Rainbow!
    
34. LGTAitP #34: <3!!
    
35. LGBTAitp #35: What Midlife Crisis? :3
    
36. LGBTAitp #36: May Contain Bites!
    
37. LGBTAitP #37: Once upon a time...
    
38. LGBTAitP #38: Once More With Feeling!!
    
39. LGBTAitP #38: Making Your Way in the World Today....
    
40. LGBTAitP #40: Technicolour Partyboat
    

And, for reference, here is the Thousand&Wordster Dictionary of Commonly Used LGBTAitp Words and Phrases

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Lagerbeta: A fine brewski to be drunk by queers and allies.
LGBT: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans*
Trans*: Transsexual and Transgender
LGBTA: LGBT+Asexual/Allies
QUILTBAG:

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Q - Queer and Questioning
U - Unidentified
I - Intersex
L - Lesbian
T - Transgender, Transexual
B - Bisexual
A - Asexual
G - Gay, Genderqueer

Allies: Straight people that support equality for sexuality and gender minorities.
MtF: Male-to-Female: A woman born with male nibblies, who may or may not be seeking HRT and/or SRS. (AKA: trans woman)
FtM: Female-to-Male: A man born with female nibblies, who may or may not be seeking HRT and/or SRS. (AKA: trans man)
GQ: Genderqueer.
CS: Cis-sexual: sex and gender match (a male with male nibblies, a female with female nibblies.
TS: Transsexual: Sex and gender disparity.
HRT: Hormone replacement therapy. MtF's take more progestrogens and oestrogens and FtM's take more testosterone (I think?)
SRS: Sex Reassignment Surgery: Surgery to replace/transform a vagina into a penis, or vice versa depending on direction. Mastectomies or plastic surgery may be used on breasts.
FFS: Facial Feminization Surgery: Plastic surgery to reduce chin/nose/cheekbones. not very common.
AFAB/AMAB: Assigned Female/Male at Birth
FAAB/MAAB: Female/Male Assigned at Birth.


Man: A cisman or transman. Male.
Woman: A ciswoman or transwoman. Female.
Androgyne: Gender Identity with male and female aspects.
Genderfluid: Someone who fluctuates between male and female.
Agendered: Someone who feels neither male nor female.
Third-gendered: Someone who fits in a local society's third gender, usually male performing female tasks, occasionally vice versa.
Masculine: Something generally associated with men.
Feminine: Something generally associated with women.

Lesbian: A woman who is attracted to women.
Gay: A man who is attracted to men.
Homosexual: A person who is attracted to members of their gender.
Heterosexual: A person who is attracted to members of the opposite gender.
Bisexual: A person who is attracted to two genders (usually men and women, sometimes transgender instead of one of those).
Pansexual: A person who is attracted to people regardless of gender.
Asexual: A person who does not feel any/some sexual attraction.
Demisexual: A person who is sexually attracted to someone(s) they have formed an intense emotional relationship with.
Polyamorous: A person who is interested in a relationship with more than one person.
Radosexual: A person who is only attracted to rad people.
Pomosexual: A person who avoids SO labels.

Sexual Orientation: How one identifies who they are attracted to. (SO)
Gender Identity: How one feels inside society's idea of "man, woman, or other". (GI)
Gender Expression: How one expresses their GI to society. (GE)
Significant Other(s): Person you are in a relationship with. (SO)

Webcomics that touch on... Well, everything related to the thread.

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Venus Envy. Long dead webcomic. The creator has chosen not to continue it and move forward in life.
Rain. A story of a MtF girl in high school.
Khaos Komix.As the creator puts it(from his site): "A complete GLBTWTFBBQ comic about gender and sexuality. (Trigger warnings for EVERYTHING and nothing is safe for work.)"
Always Raining Here. "Adrian is heartsick, Carter is horny. This is a story about their misadventures as awkward teenagers as they fumble through unrequited romances."
Tripping over you.An awkward blind date leads to better options.
Questionable Content. The LGBTA characters are well done, and not stereotypes.
What's normal anyway. An FtM webcomic. Seems decent so far.

I know I missed a few webcomics, and if anyone finds more, feel free to PM them to me with a brief description, and I will add them.

The Brand New LGBTA Arts & Crafts Thread!

[Philemonite]

This thread looks blank.

[Moonwolf727]

This thread looks blank.

Ahhh that new thread smell!

And I can see it, It just doesn't have a special title for some reason.

[HMS Sophia]

I tell you, I go away for a couple of nights....

I just started downloading WoT... updates are going to take foooreveerrrr...

I'm feeling better. Generally. I have come to a decision that if the docs can't figure out whats going on, I'm going to try eliminating/suppressing the oestrogen high and see what happens. It's the... abnormality in my body after all.

[Kittenwolf]

I tell you, I go away for a couple of nights....

I just started downloading WoT... updates are going to take foooreveerrrr...

Wheel of Time?

[HMS Sophia]

Wheel of Time?

World of tanks (big things go boom!)

[Durmatagno]

World of tanks (big things go boom!)

As a very wise goomba once said: Tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank TAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!

:3

[Jaycemonde]

This thread looks blank.

This must be rectified. Someone liked my Skirting the Clothing Issues suggestion :>

World of tanks (big things go boom!)

As a very wise goomba once said: Tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank TAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!

:3

TORPEDO TORPEDO?

[Eldest]

World of tanks (big things go boom!)

As a very wise goomba once said: Tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank tank TAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!

:3

Explosions intrigue me and I wish to learn more...

[Castaras]

I'm quite liking it blank actually. It's the LGBTAQ thread, nothing more needs to be said.

[Eldest]

I'm quite liking it blank actually. It's the LGBTAQ thread, nothing more needs to be said.

But witty subtitles!

I'm perfectly happy with leaving it blank this time, but we gotta have something for #42.

[HMS Sophia]

TORPEDO TORPEDO?

I have yet to find a good warship simulator and this disappoints me significantly. I want World of Warships dammit! (coming soon)

[Lentrax]

But witty subtitles!

I'm perfectly happy with leaving it blank this time, but we gotta have something for #42.

LGBTAitp #42: The Long, Dark Teatime of the Soul.
(I know, wrong series. Right author though.)

LGBTAitp #42: Oh mighty Deep Thought...

LGBTAitp #42: Infinte Inprobability for ∞+1 People.

[Philemonite]

LGBTAitp #42: Life, the Universe and Everything?

[Kindablue]

This thread looks blank.

I support the not subtitle.

[Jaycemonde]

I liked the subtitled thread more. This seems like it's trying to come off as a professional board meeting or something.

[Moonwolf727]

LGBTAitp #42: Life, the Universe and Everything?

LGBTAitp #42: Sex, Gender and Confusion?

[Jaycemonde]

LGBTAitp #42: Sex, Gender and Confusion?

Skirting Clothing Issues!

[Karen Lynn]

Skirting clothing issues? I have no clothing issues in skirts, however.

Also, fun day. v.v

Yesterday:
TW hurtful comments, well wishing, and a dash of wtf.

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So, yesterday, I went through the entirety of my apartment looking for my paints. I have a box full of unopened acrylic paints that also has my tools, glue, brushes, pallets, and stickers for my WH40K Tau bits. The loss of these are greatly upsetting.

Yesterday, I pointed out a cute chick and told roomie1 that that's the kind of body I like for girlfriends.
Conversation:

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"See, that's the kind of girl I find attractive."
"Well, I'm sure it'd be a lot easier to have a girlfriend if you just stayed a guy."
"That's not the point."
"Well, way I see it, you like girls more than guys, and you're a guy right now, so staying a guy should make it easier to get a girl, right?"
"This conversation's over."

So, yeah, this is why I am grump all yesterday. That box of paints disappeared into the æther. It was sitting in the livingroom in the corner away from the gaming table. Now it is -nowhere-.

[Jaycemonde]

Skirting clothing issues? I have no clothing issues in skirts, however.

The joke being that with non-binary genders and trying to deconstruct so-called "gender roles" one of the most logical steps is making it so that girls could wear "guy clothes" and guys could wear "girl clothes" (the clothing issues) but in a subtle way (skirting around the issue) so that it doesn't look brash and unsophisticated.

It's a pun. Skirting clothing issues.

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"See, that's the kind of girl I find attractive."
"Well, I'm sure it'd be a lot easier to have a girlfriend if you just stayed a guy."
"That's not the point."
"Well, way I see it, you like girls more than guys, and you're a guy right now, so staying a guy should make it easier to get a girl, right?"
"This conversation's over."

What an ass.

[Zorg]

Karen, sorry to hear about both roomie being and @ssbutt and loss of materials :( Least yo ugot to look at a cute chick..?


Re lack of subtitle:

I do not like them as a general rule, think it is unnecessary and find the frequent emphasis on physical affection put forward somewhat off putting, personally speaking.

In short:

[Hazuki]

@Zorg: I like your style.

No need to be sorry, i did go stealth with the spoiler. Here it was: Post

Many thanks, hun. *hugs* I'll pass the information along.

[Jaycemonde]

Re lack of subtitle:

I do not like them as a general rule, think it is unnecessary and find the frequent emphasis on physical affection put forward somewhat off putting, personally speaking.

I don't see how a witty subtitle such as Technicolor Partyboat counts as being an emphasis on physical affection (which is hardly a bad thing to begin with). At the least, fix the abbreviation error. That Itp instead of an itP is going to drive me insane.

[Karen Lynn]

At the least, fix the abbreviation error. That Itp instead of an itP is going to drive me insane.

This! I enjoy the subtitles, but they aren't that important. Zorg made it, so it is her choice in presence of subtitle. What is important(to me) is that Itp should be itP. >.< Sorry for being a butt.

[golentan]

Nooo my lovely subtitle tradition! I started it, and nursed it from a baby.

Zorg you MONSTER! How could you? Well, I guess you could by simply not typing the subtitle but NOOOOOOOO!!!

[Leona]

I'm nervous about going to my college's gay-straight alliance... I'm worried it's just going to be full of gay male engineers that I have nothing in common with

[Moonwolf727]

Re lack of subtitle:

I do not like them as a general rule, think it is unnecessary and find the frequent emphasis on physical affection put forward somewhat off putting, personally speaking.

Honey, I know it's not something you like personally but it does help with the atmosphere. We're all good friends here and the subtitles do help to lighten the mood a lot, good thoughts come along with them whenever someone sees the thread in their subscription box, or that's how it is for me anyway.

Besides, I haven't seen much emphasis on physical affection at all in the titles. The hugs that we give out, and love, are more affectionate than that. Personally speaking, you may not like them, and we respect that, but it does add some character to the thread and while not neccessary, it is pleasant.

~Gail~

[Zorg]

I is for Intersex.

Also bugging me about will only get it changed to something that amuses my blackened soul.

[Karen Lynn]

Fair enough on the 'I', but then you're still missing an 'i'.

I can't stop my inner editor.

[Jaycemonde]

I is for Intersex.

Also bugging me about will only get it changed to something that amuses my blackened soul.

It's been LGBTA (with intersex falling under Trans*) for about thirty iterations, with "itP" being "in the Playground." But, you know. Something that's really simple to fix obviously isn't worth the trouble.