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2013-10-08, 12:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-08, 12:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground XL
Yeah, bugbear isn't a creature type, but at the same time you could pick humanoid/outsider/elemental and have a much broader range than would a ranger's favored enemy because the ranger has to pick a sub-type for his broad type.
Would it be easier if we made it consistent with Ranger favored enemies? or just leave it restricted at the Creature type level
Edit: Also, would we count Sworn foe as Favored enemy for prerequisites?Last edited by Feilith; 2013-10-08 at 12:47 PM.
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2013-10-08, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground XL
Personally I would limit it to the enemies that a vanilla ranger can select as favored enemies (no evil, nor spellcasters for example)
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2013-10-08, 12:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground XL
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2013-10-08, 12:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground XL
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2013-10-08, 12:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground XL
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2013-10-08, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground XL
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2013-10-08, 01:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground XL
I'd say that as long as a single entry exists that covers any number of creatures, all of these creatures are sworn foes.
So, your sworn foe is all elves instead of just grey elves, or all Demons instead of just Babaus.
It's lackluster, but I believe this is what was intended - and since the RAW is contradictory, it cannot be followed to the letter. ("Creature type" followed by an example that is not a creature type and preceded by a counterexample that is a creature type - are you serious, WOTC?).
If we are to follow the RAW and ignore any examples, this would be a creature type, and would not even bother with a subtype.
Whatever interpretation we choose, the text does not mention subtypes or anything related to ranger favored enemies.
And the "specific kind of monster or organization" followed by "must be a single creature type such as bugbears" only messes with my head more. Where did the "organization" thing go?
Well. In the end, I'm just even more confused.Last edited by Keynub; 2013-10-08 at 01:27 PM.
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2013-10-08, 01:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
Thanks a lot Gengy for the awesome... just a sec... avatar. :)
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2013-10-08, 01:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-08, 01:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-08, 01:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
Never fear, that's why we have a chairman. Whatever he rules, as long as we're all consistently playing by the same rules, then it'll be a fair contest.
the salient rules info, since the chairman's AFB:
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EDIT: could you clarify how taint symptoms work? you mentioned we can pick our symptoms, so do we pick whether we want physical or mental deformities so we can prioritize our stats accordingly?Last edited by Venger; 2013-10-08 at 02:10 PM.
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2013-10-08, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-08, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground XL
I would be surprised if even Curmudgeon can help you here since this is a known dysfunction.
I think that this is going to require a chairman's ruling.π = 4
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2013-10-08, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
There's a lot of different fluff things I could do with this. Mechanics, not so much. Waiting on rules clarifications so I know what to go with (or choose to judge).
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2013-10-08, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
I'm stumped.
Right now I can only come up with a different character condensed in the levels that are NOT Corrupt Avenger.
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2013-10-08, 02:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yes, clarification would decide whether I go with Column A or Column B . . .
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2013-10-08, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
Hmm... currently, I've got nothin'. I'll let things simmer for a bit before I decide if I enter or not. If I don't enter, I'll try to judge, although it depends on availability.
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2013-10-08, 03:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
Of course, once you take your first level of the PrC, as long as you don't keel over dead from your corruption, you effectively can build an arbitrary score due to Taint Suppression. This can lead to... shenanigans.
Might also want to clarify how creatures with a Con of - interact with Taint, as well as certain other means of being immune to the effects of taint.Last edited by ShneekeyTheLost; 2013-10-08 at 03:26 PM.
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2013-10-08, 03:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
So far I got nothing interesting for this SI. I may judge for the first time, if I can't come up with anything worthwhile.
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2013-10-08, 03:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks a lot Gengy for the awesome... just a sec... avatar. :)
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2013-10-08, 03:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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EDIT : Disregard that.
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2013-10-08, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
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2013-10-08, 04:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
I believe I have spotted "unnerved" somewhere else - under the Alternative Frightening rule, page 61. The changes to the Frightened condition it proposes are the same as the penalties of the "unnerved" condition caused by Unnerving Fury.
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2013-10-08, 04:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
Well when the chairman said that, I am supposing he meant we can choose what our symptoms are for the varying levels of corruption, rather than rolling them on the charts randomly. The class specifies moderate corruption which is the physical deformities. I think that depravity would be completely extra for any character here.
I second this, and hope the chairman rules so. It would make things a lot less confusing.
The people here continue to either teach me or confuse me. You are all coming up with questions to things I had thought were rather straightforward. And is taint really so easily abusable? I love the taint rules, but as a DM I would never stand for the kind of shenanigans people suggest, like undead with limitless taint or whatever else.
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2013-10-08, 05:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
Those prerequisites are simple, but not "easy". That BAB is a killer for multiclass entry. =(.
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2013-10-08, 05:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
Hmm... I actually just got an idea. Will have to see if it works out.
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2013-10-08, 05:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground L
Alright, I'll rule that Creatures immune to the effects (or have no Constitution score) are treated as Undead/[evil] Outsiders for the purposes of this competition.
Pretty much exactly what I meant. I'll apologize for not being perfectly clear.
I second this, and hope the chairman rules so. It would make things a lot less confusing.
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2013-10-08, 05:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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I has something.
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2013-10-08, 05:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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edit- received the answer - thanks
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