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2013-10-20, 11:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Machin Shin, is there a D&D equivalent?
For those who dont know, here is a description.
Machin Shin, literally black wind in the Old Tongue, is a force that hunts the Ways for anything that is alive. Machin Shin will attempt to attack and devour any creature it encounters, including Shadowspawn. The exact nature of the black wind is not understood completely, though it is known that it will consume the soul of any creature unfortunate enough to be caught by it. Unless it is pulled away, the soulless body of a victim will be subsequently mutilated and destroyed by the entity. Before encountering Machin Shin, travelers within the Ways may feel a slight breeze upon their skin, an abnormal event within the Ways where there should be no movement of air. As it approaches closer the sound of wind will increase to a roar and at its closest a traveler will begin to hear the crazed voices of the consumed souls of Machin Shin's previous victims. These voices will project the anticipation and vivid description of horrific violence. Potential victims who are able to escape from the entity with their lives are often driven insane after exposure to these voices. The Black Wind doesn't appear to think or be sentient in any way."Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2013-10-20, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Machin Shin, is there a D&D equivalent?
Though it's an intelligent undead, the Dream Vestige from Libris Mortis seems similar.
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2013-10-20, 12:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Machin Shin, is there a D&D equivalent?
Damn, thats. . . really close. I mean, it SAYS the Shin is unintelligent, but I dont think anyone is on record as having tried to talk to it. Heh. Its basically just, "Oh %$# there it is! RUN FOR THE NEAREST GATE!" And they either make it to the gate and escape, or die screaming.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2013-10-20, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Machin Shin, is there a D&D equivalent?
There was a "Black Wind" monster in one of the original Arduin books, just stats and a minimal description, but it was the first thing that popped into my mind when I read the WoT. I'll see if I can find it in my books when I get home this evening.
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2013-10-20, 01:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Machin Shin, is there a D&D equivalent?
If anyone wants to create a monster like this, keep in mind that its probably an epic level encounter considering the thing can devour armies and literally everyone is terrified of it in the series. That being said, I didnt read the entire series, so for all I know rand hit it with a bar of balefire the size of the aiel wastes in book 10 or whatever, and obliterated it retroactively from time before it was created or something. But yeah, major high end thing.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2013-10-20, 05:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Machin Shin, is there a D&D equivalent?
I think I've seen a statting of it in Homebrew. Oh yeah, here it is.
Spoiler: Having read all the seriesPerhaps surprisingly, Machin Shin still exists. Rand didn't do anything to it.Projects: Homebrew, Gentlemen's Agreement, DMPCs, Forbidden Knowledge safety, and Top Ten Worst. Also, Quotes and RACSD are good.
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2013-10-20, 05:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Machin Shin, is there a D&D equivalent?
Being a WoT-head myself, I would actually say that a dream vestige created by the nightmares of a whole city of people sounds a lot more like Mashadar than Machin Shin. Also, Mashadar makes people it touches into zombies in some cases, so that works even better for an intelligent undead. Padan Fain or something like him would definitely be a pretty epic encounter both in coolness factor and CR.
As a DM, Machin Shin to me is not a monster encounter. It's more like an environmental effect. You don't fight it, you try to out run it or you die, simple as that. It's pretty much just the literal embodiment of evil and even evil creatures like Trollocs die immediately at it's touch... That's pretty damn hardcore right there.
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2013-10-20, 05:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Machin Shin, is there a D&D equivalent?
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2013-10-20, 06:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Machin Shin, is there a D&D equivalent?
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2013-10-20, 07:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Machin Shin, is there a D&D equivalent?
Interestingly, there was a printed Wheel of Time D20 built on 3.0, it's terribly dated, and not the best representation in some ways, but I think it's rather neat.
Machin Shin is described as follows:
Originally Posted by Wheel of Time RPG Pg 287Last edited by One Step Two; 2013-10-21 at 05:16 AM. Reason: Typo
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2013-12-18, 04:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Machin Shin, is there a D&D equivalent?
I finally found the relevant Arduin book while doing some holiday cleaning. From Welcome to Skull Tower: The Arduin Grimoire, Vol II. by David Hargrave (1978):
BLACK WIND: HD:10 AC 2+2 Speed: 24" (air only) Dext: 24 Number: Always alone Looks: a 20' diameter fog of shifting shadows, lit by constant small blue crackling lightning bolt. Kind of like a small thunderhead. Attacks: 1 envelopment per melee turn, however, it can envelope any amount that will fit within itself. Those thus enveloped suffer two attacks: the 1st at dexterity 24 is psychic, and if the victim invades the body and takes it over, forever making it alien (with a mind link to its "parent"). The second attack comes at dexterity 29 and only if the psychic attack fails. This one is numbing cold of 4D8 in intensity, for all inside it (the cold damage is not divided up, but it that strong to each [person!). Notes: This alien being is 100% impervious to all except technological energy weapons, sonic attacks or paralysis which does 4D6 damage to it and slows it by one-third (one time only).
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2013-12-19, 05:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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