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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Long distance conversations?

    What's the best way to have a long distance conversation with a potentially hostile target? Message looks promising but it's only medium range. So far the best I've found is to cast Message through a Scrying spell, but that fails to will saves and Mind Blank. If there anything that's like Message but unlimited range?
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    Pixie in the Playground
     
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    Default Re: Long distance conversations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Story View Post
    What's the best way to have a long distance conversation with a potentially hostile target? Message looks promising but it's only medium range. So far the best I've found is to cast Message through a Scrying spell, but that fails to will saves and Mind Blank. If there anything that's like Message but unlimited range?
    I believe the spell you are looking for is sending.

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: Long distance conversations?

    No it's not. Sending is limited to 25 words.

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Quote Originally Posted by Story View Post
    No it's not. Sending is limited to 25 words.
    You can use Sending to ask them to cooperate with the scrying.

    Another option is Correspond if you don't mind finding a psion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaZ View Post
    You can use Sending to ask them to cooperate with the scrying.
    Or to get a pound of ash in a bag so you can use Whispering Sand.
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    Orc in the Playground
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    whispering wind maybe? It goes up to 1 mile per level. The limit is 25 words however, and the target is an area of you knowing, not a person, so if you send it and there is nobody there to hear it, well, bad luck!

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    Ogre in the Playground
     
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    So I saw the OP and thought of Rings of Communication (MiC pg. 122), an underrated little item for parties in scouting and social settings. That said it doesn't really apply here.

    But for the purposes of a potential hostile force, one way to go is invisibility (or hide) + Major Image. Just talk to him via your proxy. Even if he knows it's an image, you can make it clear it's for the purposes of discussion.
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    It is a major flaw in the game. Destroy a moon? Sure. Talk to somebody a hundred miles away, that's going to be difficult.

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    If they are a hostile force, you could just scry them to know their location and then teleport their minion's heads on spikes. That's a clear message.
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    A long line of commoners screaming your messages at the top of their lungs.

    "Let's team up against the drow!"
    "Let's turn up a gangster crow!"
    "Let's tie up a sacred cow!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berenger View Post
    A long line of commoners screaming your messages at the top of their lungs.

    "Let's team up against the drow!"
    "Let's turn up a gangster crow!"
    "Let's tie up a sacred cow!"
    "CALL THE LOCKSMITH!"
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    That's how wizards beta test their new animals. If it survives Australia, it's a go. Which in hindsight explains a LOT about Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Story View Post
    What's the best way to have a long distance conversation with a potentially hostile target? Message looks promising but it's only medium range.
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    Default Re: Long distance conversations?

    Just make a rapid sending Wondrous item.

    Rapid takes the casting time down to a minute.

    So. Really. What. You. Are. Doing. Is. Slowing. Down. The. Conversation. To. One. Word. Every. Two. Seconds. Which. By. Telegraph. Standards. Was. Not. That. Bad.

    Then you can use it all day long.

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