A Monster for Every Season: Summer 2
You can get A Monster for Every Season: Summer 2 now at Gumroad
Results 1 to 6 of 6
  1. - Top - End - #1
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    Kesnit's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Eastern US
    Gender
    Male

    Default Help with a Warlock/SORC/Eldritch Theurge

    As was pointed out to me at our last game session, PCs can die rather unexpectedly. (Our Rogue got blown up.) I had a back-up character, but it was a VoP Druid, and the DM has said no VoP. (Plus, Exalted would not fit well in the current party...)

    After thinking about it, I've decided to go with a Warlock/SORC/Eldritch Theurge*. My plan is to focus on BFC and debuffing.

    Current Build
    LE WAR 3/Battle Sorc 4/ET 3

    STR 12 INT 16
    DEX 18 (22) WIS 10
    CON 13 CHA 19 (23)
    Those include +1 to DEX and +1 to CHA from level-ups.

    FORT +4 REF +9 Will +10
    AC 20 HP 58

    ITEMS
    Cloak of CHA +4
    Gloves of DEX +4
    Leather Armor +2
    Bag of Holding I

    FEATS
    1) Eschew Materials
    1) Fiendish Heritage (Human)
    3) Combat Casting
    6) Extend Spell (or Fiendish Resistance)
    9) Rapid Metamagic

    INVOCATIONS
    Frightful Blast
    Beshadowed Blast
    Devil's Sight
    Eldritch Chain

    SPELLS
    Spoiler
    Show

    0
    Detect Poison
    Flare
    Ghost Sound
    Mage Hand
    Prestidigitation
    Unnerving Gaze


    1
    Endure Elements
    Protection from __
    Grease
    Obscuring Mist
    Summon Monster I
    Comprehend Languages
    Identify
    True Strike
    Charm Person
    Color Spray
    Silent Image
    Ray of Enfeeblement
    Reduce Person

    2
    Acid Arrow
    Glitter Dust
    Summon Monster II
    Web
    Hideous Laughter
    Touch of Idiocy
    Scorching Ray
    Invisibility
    Minor Image
    Blind/Deaf
    Knock
    Earthen Grasp
    Crystaline Memories
    Darkbolt
    Wither Limb

    3
    Dispel Magic
    Magic Circle
    Sleet Storm
    Summon Monster III
    Hold Person
    Suggestion
    Displacement
    Major Image
    Vampiric Touch
    Slow
    Bands of Steel
    Shadow Binding
    Caustic Smoke
    Evil Eye


    HELP REQUESTED
    1) I need something to boost my FORT save. I did a search for help on that, and here's my answer to the answers given in a previous thread.
    • Cloak of Resistance: I'm already wearing a Cloak
    • Soulmeld (Pauldrons of Health): At most, I could put 1 essentia in it, since I don't have an Incarum class.
    • Great Fortitude: Well, that's an option, but it is only +2
    • Vest of Resistance: I can't find that item.
    • Paladin (of Tyranny): I'm already losing CL. I don't want to give up more. Also, my DM does use multi-classing penalties.
    • Magic items that allow CONC instead of Fort 1/day: 1/day isn't going to cut it.
    • Amulet of Health: I could only afford a +2, which would only raise my save by 1.
    • Wand of Greater Resistance: This is what I am leaning towards. The spell is on my list. I can't cast it yet, but my UMD is +19.

    I know I can take Dark One's Own Luck, but that takes one of my (limited) Invocations. I can also swap the 16 in INT to CON, but as it is, I am really skill point starved. Losing all those points will hurt.

    2) What race should I use? I tend to default to Human, but it would be nice if there was a +CHA race that doesn't lose DEX or have an LA.

    3) I'd love some feedback on the build I've laid out above. Feats, spell and invocation selection, etc.


    * Please do not tell me that Theurges are crappy. I am aware of why. But my group does not optimize at all, so I don't see an issue.
    Last edited by Kesnit; 2013-12-24 at 04:51 PM.
    Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

    Proud member of the "I Love Anyway" Club

    Thank you, Ceika, so much for the avatar!

  2. - Top - End - #2
    Ogre in the Playground
    Join Date
    Dec 2009

    Default Re: Help with a Warlock/SORC/Eldritch Theurge

    Devil's sight is generally not worth it.

    If you have access to Fiendish Codex II, then a Hellbred (page 77) would be a good race option. If you take the Spirit option you get +2 Cha and at 12HD you get the same effect as devil's sight (and ta level 10 you have 120ft darkvision).

    Frightful Blast depends in usefulness on what you face, but should be becoming much less sueful around that level.

    Things I'd replace the two with:

    Baleful Utterance (If you are still facing mostly enemies without magic weapons that aren't using natural attacks)
    See the unseen (though if you go with hellbred, less so)
    Dark One's own luck (a +6-7 is nothing to sneeze at)

    I generally don't see the point in fiendish heritage and associated feats.
    Combat casting as well.


    If you are afraid of being in melee, I'd advise to just take eldritch glaive.
    My first foray into homebrew: The Circuit Mage

     . /l 、
    (゚、 。 7
    .  l、゙~ヽ
      じ しf_, )ノ

    Pudgy kitty needs more views

    Active Characters:
    Spoiler
    Show

    Bonehoarder - Necromantic Skeleton Shapeshifter
    Tahrven Millos - Arcane Hierophant
    Hordemaster Kordan - Ebon Initiate ... mostly
    Keldan Tamron - Trivoker
    Rooshkdor - Arrow Demon Archer
    Galen Medon - Batman?

  3. - Top - End - #3
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    DrowGirl

    Join Date
    Jun 2009

    Default Re: Help with a Warlock/SORC/Eldritch Theurge

    Vest of Resistance: I can't find that item.
    You saying your character cannot find the item to buy or you cannot find the sourcebook the item is located in?

    If the latter, it's Magic Item Compendium pg 147

    If it's the former, Resistance is a basic enchantment that can be slapped on pretty much anywhere without penalty, so just search again for something like that.

  4. - Top - End - #4
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    Kesnit's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Eastern US
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Help with a Warlock/SORC/Eldritch Theurge

    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatosia View Post
    You saying your character cannot find the item to buy or you cannot find the sourcebook the item is located in?

    If the latter, it's Magic Item Compendium pg 147
    I couldn't find what book it is in. Thanks.
    Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

    Proud member of the "I Love Anyway" Club

    Thank you, Ceika, so much for the avatar!

  5. - Top - End - #5
    Ogre in the Playground
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    In an apartment
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Help with a Warlock/SORC/Eldritch Theurge

    I would advise against using the Battle Sorcerer variant. While you will get better HPs and BAB for those few levels, you'll lose out on valuable spells when you take PrCs without gaining anything at all.
    As for races, if you are interested in Incarnum, you could chose the Azurin as a race. That would still give you the bonus feat of a Human, along with Essentia for Pauldrons of Health (or any other soulmeld you grab). Plus you could say you are the embodiment of mortal evil!
    If you feel like quoting something that I have said, you have my permission to use it. Unless it makes me look stupid.
    Gaming Laws, Fallacies And More
    Avatar by Kymme
    My Homebrew
    Feel free to browse and comment on any of my Homebrew. I enjoy feedback.
    Love my Avatar? Well, why not check out the comic that it came from?

  6. - Top - End - #6
    Orc in the Playground
     
    OldWizardGuy

    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Behind you
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Help with a Warlock/SORC/Eldritch Theurge

    Sorcerer you say? Want a charisma race you say? You're in luck!

    In RotD there's the Spellscale, with +2 cha and some unique abilities for arcane spellcasters. They take a con hit tho.
    Spoiler
    Show
    Currently converting to 5th edition. Looks fabulous so far.
    Playing a Dwarven Cleric and a Human Paladin.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •