Beholders

[Bhu]

Are there official 3.5 stats for the following Beholder Kin: Examiner, Orbus, Watcher, Lensman, Gorbel, Astereater, Kasharin, Elder Orb?

[Zaydos]

I think Elder Orbs get mentioned in a sidebar in Lords of Madness and there's a sample one in it. I'll have to check. To my knowledge the answer to the rest is no, though I could be wrong.

Edit: Elder Orbs are described on page 41 of Lords of Madness. They are not fully statted out. A sample one is on page 43 with 27 CR which I find is probably too high. And have no idea how they got since by standard CR rules for advancing monsters it should be either 24, 25 (if you round up) or if sorcerer levels are somehow associated 32 or 33.

[Bhu]

Excellent, I has some work to do thens...

[Zaydos]

I look forward to seeing it, especially Lensmen, I loved them when I got the 2e Monster Manual as a kid.

[Bhu]

As I get them finished I'll be putting them in my critters thread.

[hamishspence]

Edit: Elder Orbs are described on page 41 of Lords of Madness. They are not fully statted out. A sample one is on page 43 with 27 CR which I find is probably too high. And have no idea how they got since by standard CR rules for advancing monsters it should be either 24, 25 (if you round up) or if sorcerer levels are somehow associated 32 or 33.

Maybe they advanced sorcerer levels first (so the first 11 sorcerer levels were non-associated, the remaining 5 associated) then they added hit dice to increase the creature's size?