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    HP, gamer body, and possibly MP with the take-MP-instead-of-HP-damage spell (Mana Protection?) that was mentioned a while back. He's got tons of mana and mana regen, he can afford some major hits to his mana.

    The really funny thing is that I think he actually used Fool's Act from way back in Chapter 22 here.

    As for the ending, my guess is that Chunbumoon was independently investigating this place, just got here, didn't see Jee-Han's battle because they were inside, and now to them it looks suspiciously like Jee-Han's the bad guy and he's bringing this unconscious person (who they don't know who it is) to join the pile of victims.
    Yep, it was totally Fool's Act. Remember it has a chance to confuse the target for 2 seconds - and it worked.

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    For the rest, not really sure on that. I mean Jee-Han and the bad guy were shredding the area in front of the building. I literally don't know how it's possible for them be there and NOT notice the fight going on.

    I think Sun-Il's suspicion is due to the fact that he basically realized Jee-Han was considering executing an unconscious person and is pissed about it.
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    HP, gamer body, and possibly MP with the take-MP-instead-of-HP-damage spell (Mana Protection?) that was mentioned a while back. He's got tons of mana and mana regen, he can afford some major hits to his mana.

    The really funny thing is that I think he actually used Fool's Act from way back in Chapter 22 here.

    As for the ending, my guess is that Chunbumoon was independently investigating this place, just got here, didn't see Jee-Han's battle because they were inside, and now to them it looks suspiciously like Jee-Han's the bad guy and he's bringing this unconscious person (who they don't know who it is) to join the pile of victims.
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    If it's Fool's Act, then why did Jee Han need to get hit by the attack? Is it just his strategy of continuing to soak up the other guy's mana so he couldn't mount a defense?
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    If it's Fool's Act, then why did Jee Han need to get hit by the attack? Is it just his strategy of continuing to soak up the other guy's mana so he couldn't mount a defense?
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    Maybe he needed him to be close? Even if Fool's Act has a long range, 2 seconds might not have been enough to blast him afterwards if he was far away.
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    If it's Fool's Act, then why did Jee Han need to get hit by the attack? Is it just his strategy of continuing to soak up the other guy's mana so he couldn't mount a defense?
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    He baited the guy into basically putting his blob into 'attack mode'. Then he froze him with Fool's Act and blew him away.

    Remember, before that he was using it as a shield, and that shield would still be there even if he couldn't move. But with the blob changed to that.... cork... attack... thing... it was worthless for defense and he couldn't switch it back.
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    I guess both of those answers make sense - the overall factors involved were much more advantageous after the gambit, even if it was a bit of a sacrifice in the short term.
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    He baited the guy into basically putting his blob into 'attack mode'. Then he froze him with Fool's Act and blew him away.
    Ah, that makes sense. Bait him out of shield mode, then use a disable that won't be recognized as such until too late, and then attack. Because just attacking normally would prompt a switch back to shield mode before it hits, and really, who would believe Fool's Act was an attack of any sort?
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    I think Sun-Il's suspicion is due to the fact that he basically realized Jee-Han was considering executing an unconscious person and is pissed about it.
    I think he just rushed here frantically with his entire team because he thought Jee-Han was going to get himself killed based on their last exchange; that's why he's so pissed about Jee-Han's flippant "oh, you're here?" remark. And Sun-Il's objections to killing the guy are probably partially what you said, partially because killing a member of the Company would make Jee-Han (and, by extension, Chunbumoon) a serious target -- obviously the Company doesn't let people get away with killing members. It's bad enough that he raided them like this in the first place, but that can still probably be smoothed over. Killing someone can't be.

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    He baited the guy into basically putting his blob into 'attack mode'. Then he froze him with Fool's Act and blew him away.
    Yeah, my guess is that while the blob was defending him, confusing him wouldn't have helped because the blob would have blocked the attack.

    (As for how Jee-Han tanked it, it's just his massive HP and Gamer's Body. Blob-guy thought that a stab in the gut would incapacitate him, just like it would any ordinary person; he didn't know Jee-Han would be able to keep fighting at 100% effectiveness until he runs out of HP.)
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    (As for how Jee-Han tanked it, it's just his massive HP and Gamer's Body. Blob-guy thought that a stab in the gut would incapacitate him, just like it would any ordinary person; he didn't know Jee-Han would be able to keep fighting at 100% effectiveness until he runs out of HP.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquillion View Post
    (As for how Jee-Han tanked it, it's just his massive HP and Gamer's Body. Blob-guy thought that a stab in the gut would incapacitate him, just like it would any ordinary person; he didn't know Jee-Han would be able to keep fighting at 100% effectiveness until he runs out of HP.)
    The Abyss people really need to learn more about how games work before trying to take on a guy named The Gamer.
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    Maybe he should clarify by calling himself the RPG gamer. People who only play plattformers might expect him to die if he ever touches anything dangerous. Speaking of other genres, instead of flying he should have learned double jumps he can endlessly chain in the air, much more fitting for a gamer! (And would looks wonderfully awkward.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olinser View Post
    He baited the guy into basically putting his blob into 'attack mode'. Then he froze him with Fool's Act and blew him away.
    I think there may have been more to it than that. There was a show of Jee-Han putting on his rings beforehand and other magical items and some of the artwork seemed to draw attention to the rings. One of the rings allowed him to cast (I think) a paralyzing poison. I think the Fools Act might have kept "Honsaedorae" from casting, but I think the poison may have been necessary to completely freeze him in place.

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    (As for how Jee-Han tanked it, it's just his massive HP and Gamer's Body. Blob-guy thought that a stab in the gut would incapacitate him, just like it would any ordinary person; he didn't know Jee-Han would be able to keep fighting at 100% effectiveness until he runs out of HP.)
    And the other ring would have made him a bit more tanky. And he has his heals.
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    Suddenly, plot!
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    I really hope Jee-Han actually ends up with some sort of "Guild" functionality.
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    It might be kind of funny (and very useful) if all of Chunbumoon suddenly gets guild chat because of Jee-Han joining.
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    It might be kind of funny (and very useful) if all of Chunbumoon suddenly gets guild chat because of Jee-Han joining.
    ..Oh man.

    Considering what happens when people join his party... what happens when people are in the same guild as him?
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    I'm kind of hoping he's get a new title(remember those :( ), and suddenly gets a bonus to using all of the Chun-Bu Moon techniques just by joining.

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    It might be kind of funny (and very useful) if all of Chunbumoon suddenly gets guild chat because of Jee-Han joining.
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    ..Oh man.

    Considering what happens when people join his party... what happens when people are in the same guild as him?
    Those poor souls... Totally unprepared for the drama-fount that is gchat.
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    I think Guild Chat is just going to be a one-off joke. While it'll be pretty funny to see chat windows pop up, it ultimately isn't something that can't be accomplished with a simple cell phone.

    However, what if they all obtained a Guild Bank?

    Also, not sure if the Author will actually address this, but right now the Abyss only knows some bare-bones information about him. If he does join the Chunbuumoon and everyone ends up getting a UI, though, it would be easy for a random rank-and-file disciple (or some third cousin of the second uncle of a branch family) to sell this information to the abyss auction. The named characters in the guild are reasonably trustworthy, sure, but not all of the guild will be.

    If people discover that he actually operates entirely like a RPG character, they might start throwing spoons at him for a OHKO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felyndiira View Post
    I think Guild Chat is just going to be a one-off joke. While it'll be pretty funny to see chat windows pop up, it ultimately isn't something that can't be accomplished with a simple cell phone.
    Not quite the same. Cell phones can be easily disrupted, faked or intercepted. Guild Chat would essentially be the ultimate form of secure chat, which I imagine would be pretty valuable.

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    Not quite the same. Cell phones can be easily disrupted, faked or intercepted. Guild Chat would essentially be the ultimate form of secure chat, which I imagine would be pretty valuable.
    It could be true, though the security of his gamer ability is currently untested. Still, even if it's a more secure feature, I imagine that it won't be very game-breaking for the guild, since they likely already have some means of communication and thus would be used to it.

    Also, new manga chapter. Much politics. Don't think we can discuss that part on the forums due to being real-life.
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    He joins the guild aaaand

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    I'm wondering how Lolikiano will react, assuming she hasn't just disappeared from the story. Granted this time Jee-Han has an excuse for not discussing his decision with her first, but it's so much like him to not think of the ramifications. Would she still be able to instruct him? Would she still want to or feel obligated to do it? Would she continue to live at his house while he lives at Chunbumoon's compound? Would she think it was a good idea overall?

    Jee-Han wouldn't think to call his parents, either. Granted, Jee-Han might not know how to explain things to them, but I think people already in Chunbumoon could help with that. IIRC, somebody in Chunbumoon already arranged something with Jee-Han's mother at least once before.
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    Is it just me, or has the quality of translation suddenly gone way down over the past couple weeks?

    It feels like suddenly there are is an awful lot of poor grammar and word salad speech bubbles.

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    I haven't really noticed a drop. The translation has always been a little weak on the dialogue heavy chapters, but I think that's to be expected.

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    I didn't notice anything unusual, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felyndiira View Post
    Also, new manga chapter. Much politics. Don't think we can discuss that part on the forums due to being real-life.
    It's interesting what isn't discussed, though. Lots of discussion of Korea's relationship with Japan, absolutely no discussion (not even a slight reference) to the division of Korea or to what the existence of North Korea means in the Abyss.

    I can sort of understand, but it's still weird. You'd expect that to be a much bigger deal, historically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquillion View Post
    It's interesting what isn't discussed, though. Lots of discussion of Korea's relationship with Japan, absolutely no discussion (not even a slight reference) to the division of Korea or to what the existence of North Korea means in the Abyss.

    I can sort of understand, but it's still weird. You'd expect that to be a much bigger deal, historically.
    Not really. We've already got explicit info that going too public with Abyss powers gets you JUDGEMENT BOLT FROM THE SKY.

    So presumably anybody that interferes too heavily with non-Abyss politics gets blasted.

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    Yes, but (as we saw in this most recent update) that only works one way. The muggle world is protected from Abyss politics; the Abyss isn't protected from muggle politics (hence, the organization that destroyed the Japanese Abyss for 'muggle-political' reasons, or the whole idea that Chuubomoon exists to defend Korea within the Abyss.)

    So if eg. North Korea has a bunch of people in the Abyss, that would have dramatic implications for how they relate to people in the South Korean Abyss. And it feels odd that, while discussing the recent muggle political situation in the region and how it relates to the Abyss, the story doesn't even acknowledge that North Korea is a thing, let alone discuss the impact it has in the Abyss.

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    You know his gamer mind doesn't go far enough with just making him emotionally distant. It should give him the other properties of the mind of a gamer. Like going in houses and looting every container. Or completely disregarding main quests/important things for side quests and grinding.

    Anyway do you think he will ever use his crafting ability? It has a good chance of being OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrinar View Post
    You know his gamer mind doesn't go far enough with just making him emotionally distant. It should give him the other properties of the mind of a gamer. Like going in houses and looting every container. Or completely disregarding main quests/important things for side quests and grinding.

    Anyway do you think he will ever use his crafting ability? It has a good chance of being OP.
    Maybe? Eventually? Who knows, writer seems to be kind of all over the place in what directions he wants the powers to go.

    Anyone else getting some kind of plot whiplash? Feels a bit like he's running all over the place, tying up random loose ends for no reason.

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