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2013-12-07, 01:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Power of Preparation.
Or doing Twilight Sparkle proud.
So my buddy has us playing in a game and we have a moment where we see a dragon but just the eye, the paladin lets us know it's evil, than it breathes fire on us which helps me think it's a red dragon. Now we've been given a chance to rest and pick some spells.
The dm has screwed himself, I have three spells which make it so this dragon literally cannot touch us.
In the sheer joy of this moment tell me a story of when you had a chance to prepare for trouble.This is horrifying beyond anything Lovecraft ever wrote or Giger ever drew.
MCulpa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVopG...el_video_title
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2013-12-07, 07:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Never laugh at live dragons, Doomboy.
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2013-12-07, 08:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Do things by the book... but be the author!
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2013-12-07, 11:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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This is horrifying beyond anything Lovecraft ever wrote or Giger ever drew.
MCulpa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVopG...el_video_title
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2013-12-07, 11:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sooo... Dragon attacks you, you cast these spells, it promptly disengages and comes back in twenty minutes. Remember, dragons are geniuses. Unless you can physically trap it (good luck with that) it doesn't have to sit there and let you have your spells.
Also, those spells won't protect you from indirect damage. What if the dragon, say, causes a cave in on your heads? Or floods your tunnel with water? Or burns up all your oxygen?
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2013-12-07, 11:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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None of those stop the Dragon eating you. +2 AC helps a bit . The Energy protection is far from invulnerable , the dragon makes repeating strafing runs unless you have good ranged attacks you take a lot of fire damage the fire damage absorption runs out and you have only a limited amount of Fire reistance then it burns you to death.
I just TPK'd a party with a (CR Appropriate) Black dragon who used the same set of protective spells.
It is a good preparation, and combined with good tactics should enable you to win but if the Dragon uses better tactics it will still wipe you out
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2013-12-07, 01:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well we have DR 30 for fire and the dragon did about 40 damage with his breath weapon so it won't do that much damage.
Also if the dragon decides to disengage we can push on further down the dungeon, we're after something so the dragon can either stop us along the way while we're buffed or we can grab what we need and I teleport the party out.
Also the protection from evil makes it so it can do natural attacks against us so no it can't eat us.Last edited by Doomboy911; 2013-12-07 at 01:03 PM.
This is horrifying beyond anything Lovecraft ever wrote or Giger ever drew.
MCulpa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVopG...el_video_title
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2013-12-07, 01:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Remember that it's a dragon. Thus, it has spellcasting and will probably dispel your buffs from range before going in for the kill.
Protection from evil only works against summoned evil creatures. Unless someone summoned this red dragon (in which case you probably have bigger problems than just the dragon), it can still eat you.
Also, energy resistance != DR against energy damage. Resistance to energy is a per round thing, not per attack.Avatar of Furude Setsuna, by Telasi.Originally Posted by Akagi
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2013-12-07, 01:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm sorry to be telling you this, but Protection from Evil will do nothing to stop the dragon from using its natural attacks on you (at least this is the case in all the systems I know of, with Protection from Evil as a spell). PfE works against summoned creatures, which I assume the dragon is not.
As for guarding against enegy types, there are feats for dragons to make their breath a different energy type. And dragons are spellcasters - (greater) dispel magic could rather mess up your day.
I'd hesitate with assuming the DM screwed up. He may in fact be setting you up.My D&D 5th ed. Druid Handbook
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2013-12-07, 01:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-07, 02:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh, another thing about having Protection From Energy and Resist Energy on at the same time is that they don't stack. "Note: Protection from energy overlaps (and does not stack with) resist energy. If a character is warded by protection from energy and resist energy, the protection spell absorbs damage until its power is exhausted." This means that you'll absorb 12 damage/CL, then be left with only Resist Energy.
Resist Energy is debatable. It says you gain energy resistance 10, then goes on to give a brief definition. This could be seen as either a mistake due to loss of accuracy, or a revision.
And while most DMs don't, it's still RAW that it's per round.Avatar of Furude Setsuna, by Telasi.Originally Posted by Akagi
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2013-12-07, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Another option not yet brought up: All you really know is you saw its eye, and you know it's evil, and it breathes fire, and might be a red dragon.
None of those things actually means it is a red dragon. Hell, it could be all kinds of evil creatures with lizard like eyes (or under a spell to look that way.) It would be even more hilarious if it, say, had used a potion of fire breathing, and isn't a red dragon at all. Or even a dragon. If I was the GM and you were this cocksure going in, I almost guarantee I would switch things up, just to see how you truly fare thinking on your feet. :)
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2013-12-07, 03:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Excellent point the dm may have tricked us into thinking it's a dragon but it still stands that it's evil, and it's doing fire damage. I'm not casting protection from dragon I'm casting to protect from what it does.
This is horrifying beyond anything Lovecraft ever wrote or Giger ever drew.
MCulpa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVopG...el_video_title
(Screw the point)-Doomboy911
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2013-12-07, 04:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Never brag about how easy the encounter is. Never talk about how powerful your character is. Don't remark that the monsters are chumps and you still have 75 hp left. Especially not while the GM is listening.
That tends to earn you 3 consecutive criticals to the face after a "lucky" dispel knocks out all your buffs and items.
In dnd, humility is strength.Last edited by Slipperychicken; 2013-12-07 at 04:11 PM.
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2013-12-07, 04:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar of Furude Setsuna, by Telasi.Originally Posted by Akagi
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2013-12-07, 07:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Once, I was in a Mage group where our main task was hunting Reapers. My character was quietly a Lich, so I had to make plans for when I was found out. Step one was to learn space magic. This made me the dude with the extradimentional space, so by default, that meant I carted around loots. Including any soul stones we found (which, when you go against other reapers, are a bit more common than normal). So gathering the soul stones safely was step one (so if I had to go off the grid, I could avoid having to go after others for a year or so). Step two was to create a method of escape in case things went south. This was accomplished by taking from some of the group's victims, with the ST allowing me to create House (Legion) after taking the real souls of several of them. Having souls on hand witth identities to take, I was ready. Inevitably, one of the lichs we fought as a boss turned out to be the one who initiated the character, who's dying word revealed me. Que applying space magic to accelerate trip in direction of "away".Use one of the (Legion) attainments to take on one of the soulstone souls , with a little bit of Life to take their appearance. The preparation cost a heavy chunk of xp, but i got away relatively unscathed. Instead of retiring the character to re-join the group, I went with more planning. Hunting the targets I knew were next from the shadows before they could, leaving small messages about my wherabouts. They eventually found me at my hideout and confronted me, right in the middle of the biggest graveyard around. Despite what it looked like I was setting them up for, I had only a feeble amount of zombies to try and fight them off. When they tried to shoot me, most the force was drained by an entropic shield. Then, stage3 activated:Faking my own death. A Supress Own Life made them think I was entirely dead, and they left. They tried to use Grim sight to find me out, but my death magic was stronger, and they failed to figure me out. Thus, step 4 was initiated:assassination. Using Legion attaiments, I would get close to the other players in non-combat situations (now that they thought I was dead, and thus not preparing for me), watch where they rested as a member of the crowed, then killed them as they rest. Ask their ghost where the next person could be found/rested. Repeat. Almost worked completely, but apparently they told somebody who was more paranoid, and ambushed me from the Twilight, saving the last two members of the party (save myself).
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2013-12-07, 08:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-07, 09:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar of Furude Setsuna, by Telasi.Originally Posted by Akagi
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2013-12-09, 03:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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But hubris is so delicious!
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2013-12-09, 07:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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This sounds like your party is level 11+, which means likely a young adult red dragon. Have fun being peppered with Glitterdust (blinded fighters), Web (immobilized wizards), Sleet Storm blocking vision, invisible ambushes, and fun with Explosive Runes. Seriously, I think you forgot that a dragon is a wizard as well. Take little for granted.
And as others have mentioned, Protection from Evil only gives immunity to direct attacks from summoned creatures.SpoilerThank you to zimmerwald1915 for the Gustave avatar.
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2013-12-09, 09:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Technically, dragons are sorcerers as well, not wizards. Barring cheesy psychotic dragons, of course.
On the original topic, I have another little story. I was playing a dread nekomancer in a dnd 3.5. However, a cheap blank spellbook, cha as a main stat, and bluff as a class skill meant everyone thinking I was a wizard wasn't too hard so eventually, someone stole it to try and cripple me. Cue trying to use a page as a scroll, only to learn too late what had been really written in there in my downtime: ghoul glyphs. Lots of ghoul glyphs.Avatar by TinyMushroom.
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2013-12-09, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think Illidan’s catchphrase is relevant to this thread.
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2013-12-15, 02:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Not digging the lack of faith but I guess it's understandable, I won't admit to being very humble but I know when I'm being cocky. The battle is on Monday, me and the party our teleporting to the nearest town to sell some magical loot we picked up we should at least get 20k each. I'll tell you how the fight went down since I don't like folks doubting me and a good story ought to be told.
In the meantime places your bets, can a level 11 party consisting of a Cleric of Kord, a paladin of Pelor, a half-orc gunslinger, a halfling bard who didn't think to pick up animate rope or dimension door, and potentially a half-elf alchemist take down what will most likely be a CR 15 dragon? Or will we be ash on the floor before I can even say "dear god no"This is horrifying beyond anything Lovecraft ever wrote or Giger ever drew.
MCulpa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVopG...el_video_title
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2013-12-15, 12:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Now THIS is a question for the 3.P boards!
See if you can get a scroll of Shapechange, then shapechange into a Zodar, wish for a scroll of Ice Assassin of an Aleax or three, gate in a few Shadesteel Golems, andLast edited by Scow2; 2013-12-15 at 12:10 PM.
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2013-12-16, 12:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yes but V wasn't prepped for the dragon he was preparing for anything. I'm preparing for the dragon fight and without my magic I've still got some power attack and other nice tricks. Besides I'm also preparing for someone who's prepared for me. For example if I brag about having a bunch of buffs that I put on the party than the DM knows the best way to hurt us is to use a greater dispel magic to get rid of the buffs on everyone, so ring of counterspell with the greater dispel magic cast into. I always felt the best way to be unbeatable is to think about how someone would defeat you.
This is horrifying beyond anything Lovecraft ever wrote or Giger ever drew.
MCulpa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVopG...el_video_title
(Screw the point)-Doomboy911
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2013-12-19, 01:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well we didn't fight a dragon, we had the option but we took a separate path and ran somewhat afoul of some kobolds they took us to see their leader who's so fat he's medium sized. The problem I'm running into now is the dm and I wondering how word of recall works. He's under the impression that I need to be in an area that I want to word of recall to and than once I venture out I can word of recall back to that area. I'm under the impression that designate means I pick an area I want to teleport to and than when I use it I end up there.
In other good news if negotiations go down poorly with this Kobold (the paladin is about bash the Kobold's head in) we may go out of our way and kill the dragon.This is horrifying beyond anything Lovecraft ever wrote or Giger ever drew.
MCulpa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVopG...el_video_title
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2013-12-19, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-12-29, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well it seems the fight has become even more difficult what I thought would be a CR 14 dragon is apparently going to be a CR 19 dragon. With anti-magic field we have little to no chance of defeating this dragon.
This is horrifying beyond anything Lovecraft ever wrote or Giger ever drew.
MCulpa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVopG...el_video_title
(Screw the point)-Doomboy911