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    Halfling in the Playground
     
    Lord Sidereal's Avatar

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    Default realism vs challenge: help!

    In my Corruption campaign? Out, now.

    Right, long story short, I need a way to make challenge encounters for my level 18 players. I've got plenty sorted out but basically I need a way to hyper Human Bandits and their troll/ogre pets so that they'll by EL 16-20, basically.

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    Firbolg in the Playground
     
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    Default Re: realism vs challenge: help!

    Give the humans 16-20 class levels? There's not much we can suggest fluff-wise without knowing more about the campaign itself.
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    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    SolithKnightGuy

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    Default Re: realism vs challenge: help!

    Level 1 Human Rogue (bandit) + Paragon template = CR 19
    Ogre + Psedonatural template= CR 21

    Both templates are in the Epic Handbook
    A silent knight is better than a holey knight.

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    Orc in the Playground
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    Default Re: realism vs challenge: help!

    Null magic zone + old school obstacles.
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    Firbolg in the Playground
     
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    Default Re: realism vs challenge: help!

    It kinda stretches the limits of believability to have tons of Paragon creatures running around unless you're in the Plane of Paragonity. Aren't they supposed to be unique?
    Quote Originally Posted by Winterwind View Post
    Mewtarthio, you have scared my brain into hiding, a trembling, broken shadow of a thing, cowering somewhere in the soothing darkness and singing nursery rhymes in the hope of obscuring the Lovecraftian facts you so boldly brought into daylight.

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    Dwarf in the Playground
     
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    Default Re: realism vs challenge: help!

    At level 18, reality must step aside a little bit. Characters as powerful as that shouldn't have any problems with bandits. Though maby the bandits really some mage's summoned demons, or a greedy dragon looking for loot?

    Look at this: Economy
    But replace numbers with power. CR 18 encounter's loot have huge gp values. So much that they could be living la dolce vita wihout having to mug random heroes.
    Yay!

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