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    If my 12th level Warlock is using Use Magic Device to activate a scroll, does he still have to be the same caster level as the scroll's CL or can he use any scroll, so long as he makes the DC?

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    Any scroll may be used, as long as you get the DC.

    A question to add to your question: It seems on a really good roll when using a scroll, a character can get a huge bonus to caster level, and make the spell very powerful. Is it true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fualkner Asiniti View Post
    Any scroll may be used, as long as you get the DC.

    A question to add to your question: It seems on a really good roll when using a scroll, a character can get a huge bonus to caster level, and make the spell very powerful. Is it true?
    Not at all! Scrolls use their own caster level. Only staves use their user's caster level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki_Akuma View Post
    Not at all! Scrolls use their own caster level. Only staves use their user's caster level.
    I believe die is referring to the mishap chance from using a scroll with too high a caster level.

    Well, the DC to use a scroll is already set by the scroll's caster level, so I assume that the "Use a Scroll" feature of Use Magic Device would count for emulating an appropriate caster level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fualkner Asiniti View Post
    A question to add to your question: It seems on a really good roll when using a scroll, a character can get a huge bonus to caster level, and make the spell very powerful. Is it true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki_Akuma View Post
    This guy, who I quoted, wasn't.
    Indeed.

    Uh, yeah, just an oversight on my part.

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    You use the "Use a Wand" line, not the "Emulate Class Feature" line, for Staffs, and the "Use a Wand" line doesn't change your caster level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shhalahr Windrider View Post
    I believe die is referring to the mishap chance from using a scroll with too high a caster level.

    Well, the DC to use a scroll is already set by the scroll's caster level, so I assume that the "Use a Scroll" feature of Use Magic Device would count for emulating an appropriate caster level.
    indeed it does and if you look back at 3.0 it was DC 20 but you would subtract 20 from your result and that would be your effective caster level for the scroll then you would have to roll to see if you avoided a mishap if your caster level was not high enough.

    for 3.5 they just simplified it to DC 20 + caster level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Got_This_Name View Post
    You use the "Use a Wand" line, not the "Emulate Class Feature" line, for Staffs, and the "Use a Wand" line doesn't change your caster level.
    And then you'd use the staff's caster level, just as if you were a wizard with a CL lower than the staff's.

    I believe you could use "Emulate Class Feature" to emulate a higher caster level and get a bigger bang out of the staff, though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shhalahr Windrider View Post
    And then you'd use the staff's caster level, just as if you were a wizard with a CL lower than the staff's.

    I believe you could use "Emulate Class Feature" to emulate a higher caster level and get a bigger bang out of the staff, though...
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