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    That's letting alignment define characters again. If you consider alignment waht it should be - a game-mechanics descriptor, chosen on the basis of "Well, I guess this fits the character's personality, motivations, and actions best" - there's no reason Good and Evil characters couldn't be friends.

    Paladins are pretty much the only PHB characters who "oppose evil wherever they can." Just having a Good alignment doesn't require or indicate that.

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    Exactly. You shouldn't pick an Alignment and try to play it. You should create a personality and try to play it. The DM will worry about the Alignment, in mst cases.
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    I for one can't believe nobody mentioned Dr. Doom yet. Dr. Doom would be the epitome of LE.

    (now, back to the discussion and away from the whole "is the Punisher right" thing)
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    Exactly. You shouldn't pick an Alignment and try to play it. You should create a personality and try to play it. The DM will worry about the Alignment, in mst cases.
    That's my preferred approach. The DM is the one who really needs to know, anyway.

    (In fact, it could be a nice surprise for a player, finding out that holy word hurts his PC... "Crud! I better mend my ways...")

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    Exactly. You shouldn't pick an Alignment and try to play it.
    Truer words have never been said. Too many DMs focus on the exact opposite in my group. What's the fun if a person can't evolve, and change their values? Everyone does!
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    It should be noted that all the denizens of the Nine Hells of Baator (Devils) are Lawful Evil. There is a lot of "wiggle room" for lawful evil personalities.

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    I will just very quickly give my opinion on the Punisher as a fan of the character and the excellent stories Garth Ennis has been putting out about him in the 21st Century.

    He's lawful neutral. He has to be lawful, because he is WAY too organized, methodical and wholly mechanical in his mindset to be anything BUT. The Punisher has no life outside of his mission. He has no friends. He has no hobbies. Every second of his every day is dedicated to the mission. He never acts out of impulse or "on a whim." Every strike he makes is calculated to the smallest degree, every possibility planned for and every precaution taken. I seriously don't know how much more lawful you can get than this.

    Now as far as the good/evil goes... he's not good because he doesn't act out of altruism or concern for others. It's crystalized in a few lines of dialogue from one comic.

    Jane the Mouse: "The Criminals.... why do you kill them?"

    Frank: "Because I hate them."

    Jane: "Oh.... I thought maybe it was because you wanted to make people safer."

    That's really it. The Punisher hates criminals. He doesn't bother to rationalize his actions any further. You can say his obsession makes him insane, but if you really step back and look at the Marvel Universe, I'd say he's one of the very few sane people there. Nobody ELSE is gonna take care of these guys.

    The Punisher only kills those who deserve it, and I would say yes, he is qualified to make the calls he does (the police and government in his universe are comically inept and corrupt.) In answer to one of Thomas's earlier questions, yes, I know at least one woman he's killed... but only after his earlier attempts left her a limbless torso, so really, at that point, he was doing her a favor. (I swear it's hilairious if you read it....)

    Since he is overall a force for good but not motivated by goodness, I dub the Punisher neutral. The easiest, strongest and best comparison I could make in D&D terms is the Inevitables. They answer to no authority but their own, but they are the epitome of Lawful Neutral. Because they're cold, unfeeling machines. And for all intents and purposes, the Punisher is too. Anything else you see is just projecting your thoughts onto what is truly an abyss.

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    ...he killed a guy dressed like Santa in front of KIDS! O_O!
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    Well, I never said he was a saint or anything...
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    I for one can't believe nobody mentioned Dr. Doom yet. Dr. Doom would be the epitome of LE.

    (now, back to the discussion and away from the whole "is the Punisher right" thing)
    Um, what am I chopped liver?

    2> The individual believes in the rule of law -- which likely differs a great deal from the established law. Doom (from comics) is a good example here. He makes great use of diplomatic immunity, will keep his word to a fault, and views his honor & nobility as two of the reasons he's uniquely qualified to rule.
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    Holy crap! Talking chopped liver!
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    Holy talking liver Batman!
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    Quickly, J. Robin! We must make our way to the Batcave and devise a method for extracting the quantum continuums from his cerebelum in order to create talking fruit cups! Science!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piedmon_Sama View Post
    The Punisher only kills those who deserve it, and I would say yes, he is qualified to make the calls he does (the police and government in his universe are comically inept and corrupt.) In answer to one of Thomas's earlier questions, yes, I know at least one woman he's killed... but only after his earlier attempts left her a limbless torso, so really, at that point, he was doing her a favor. (I swear it's hilairious if you read it....)
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    Some people say Punisher is Lawful Evil. Others says he is Lawful Neutral. Hmm.

    Judge Dredd would be the ultimate definitiion of Lawful Neutral. How does the Punisher's ethics stack up against him?

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    If we're going back into this...

    The Punisher is pretty much what Judge Dredd would be if he worked outside the law instead of with it. In fact, the Punisher would fit in quite well with the Judges.
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    Hmm Klaus from the webcomic 'Girl Genius' by Katia and Foglio always struck me as a good example of LE.

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