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    RedSorcererGirl

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    Default improved precise shot =/= autohit while grappling

    some one back me up on this.

    ...in addition, when you shoot or throw ranged weapons at a grappling opponent, you automatically strike at the opponent you have chosen.
    that means you don't roll to see which grappling opponent you hit right? a player is trying to convince me that it means whenever he sends his boar into a grapple, he can automatically hit his target.

    edit: thank you maxymiuk
    Last edited by reorith; 2007-02-08 at 09:12 PM.

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    Bugbear in the Playground
     
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    Default Re: improved precise shot =/= autohit while grappling

    You are correct and your player is wrong. Imp. Precise Shot means that while shooting into grapple he has 0% chance of hitting a target other than the one he selected (such as his boar). However, he still does need to roll sufficiently high to hit his chosen target.

    EDIT: To be more precise... (har har)

    Show your player Table 8-6: Armor Class Modifiers on page 151 of the PHB. From the footnote to the modifiers applied to grappling for ranged attacks:
    Roll randomly to see which grappling combatant you strike. That defender loses any Dexterity bonus to AC.
    Emphasis mine.
    Last edited by Maxymiuk; 2007-02-08 at 09:19 PM.

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    SamuraiGuy

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    Default Re: improved precise shot =/= autohit while grappling

    Key element: the word "at." There's a world of difference between automatically striking your target and automatically striking at your target.

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    Barbarian in the Playground
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    Default Re: improved precise shot =/= autohit while grappling

    I think your player needs to be slapped across the face with a PHB for trying to pull that.
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    Default Re: improved precise shot =/= autohit while grappling

    Quote Originally Posted by oriong View Post
    I think your player needs to be slapped across the face with a PHB for trying to pull that.
    DM-slapped! Forget pimp-smacking.

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    Titan in the Playground
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    Default Re: improved precise shot =/= autohit while grappling

    Forget pimp-smacking? But whatever will I do with my copy of Pimp: the Backhanding?

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    RedSorcererGirl

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    Default Re: improved precise shot =/= autohit while grappling

    yeah... i added a few ranks in craft(cooking) to the bbeg's list. who wants ribs? the wild empathy makes them even tastier

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