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2014-05-15, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Racial names that sound correct
Let's say a half elf half dragon would be able to be called a half-elven dragon or a dragon elf, or even a dragon-half elf.
Now my question is what would one call a half-elf who had a child with a dragon.
It'd be 1/4 human, 1/4 elf, and 1/2 dragon it seems like.
I'm just curious on what an appropriate name would be? (Serious here, happened in game and want an actual name for it.)
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2014-05-15, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Half-half-elf half-dragon. Duh!
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Names tend to be less a racial construct and more a cultural one - although since cultures frequently evolve only within a certain race, the two have things in common. As for the child, though, this means that the name would be dependent on the cultural heritage of the present and naming parent(s).
Unless you mean 'what does one call any half dragon half-elf?' That seems like your question. Oops. Uuhh... well, half-dragon is a pretty widely applied template, it might be that offspring have a more catchy name than that. Perhaps a 'Half-elf drakeling'? Ooh, I like that.
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An abomination? Mongrelfolk? Jeff who is a quarter elf and dragon on his mother's side?
Would there be a proper name for it? if your Dad is Dutch and your Mum is half African and half Japanese there isn't a special name for that, why would a human-elf-dragon hybrid have a special name unless it's a common occurrence.
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2014-05-15, 10:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Culturally half-elves are half-human if they live in elven society.
I however was going more for in gameplay terms what would you call them? To be able to get across the racial heritage without being unpleasant to say.
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2014-05-15, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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I was serious.
At 1/4 human, 1/4 elf, and 1/2 dragon, you're half half-elf (½ divided by 2 is 1/4) and half dragon.
Also, your parents are a half-elf and a dragon, so you're half a half-elf and half a dragon.
"Half-dragon half-elf" would be a bit vague. (Is that half dragon, half elf?) Half-half-elf half-dragon is clearer.
It's not gonna get neater than that while retaining the information. "Half-dragon quarter-human quarter-elf" sounds awful.D&D retroclones:
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2014-05-15, 11:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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A hundred years ago, there were English words to denote various levels of racial mix. I assume a culture that had such people as a human/elf/human/dragon cross, and that cared about it, would invent words for it. But only if the mix were common enough to have a class of people to lump together. If there's only one such person, then the word to define her is her name.
But they'd probably invent the insulting slurs before they invented descriptive words. I recommend that you not bother finding a word.
I'm 3/8 Swedish; there's not a word for that.
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It gets worse if you start adding templates and bloodlines.
For example, what would you call a creature with the following:- Half-Elf
- Half-Dragon inherited template
- Dragonborn acquired template
- Gold Dragon Bloodline, Major
- With 10 levels of Alienist (type changes to Outsider)
... I just threw that last one in there to make things more difficult.
... Suddenly, I have to build this character. (Maybe lose the Alienist.)Last edited by Red Fel; 2014-05-15 at 12:15 PM.
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It gets sillier the more templates you pile up because there is no limit to the halves you can have (half nymph, half minotaur half dragon half ogre half satyr half elf...)
I would say that in a progressive/open/un-preoccupied-by-race society you call them whatever they want to be called
In a more racially concerned society there are a couple options: call them by their highest or lowest status type: if being a dragon-blood is the sauce no matter what: they are referred to as 'dragon' ditto for elf, human, etc...
Ditto for the opposite. The one used is the group that recognizes the kid AND the speaker's intent. If they want to do them dishonor then their low ancestry is called in as a dis, to do honor the high ancestry is invoked.
The highest is probably the common use
The other option is to go colonial Spanish and do all sorts of fanciful names.
Cloud stepper: half dragon Raptoran
Scalesnatcher: half dragon halfling
Shine-eared: half dragon (metallic) elf
Silvertongue: half dragon half elf
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Generally I think you use whatever is the strongest template as reference. So everything that is half dragon will be half-dragon no matter what the other parentage is.
If you want to get more technical though I think in the example above it would be a quarter-elf-half-dragon. There's also half-demon-dragon and half-quarter-orc-drow (for a half human, quarter orc & drow) and quarter-elf-tiefling-half-aasimar for a half-elf-tiefling, half-aasimar parentage. I think the human is implied in all this, so whatever "missing" from the name has to be human.
The word is "almost half-awesome".
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My DM once posed the question "Who were the demented race of 'Ling', who mated with hobbits to create Halflings?"
Sometimes, naming things isn't worth the hassle."None of us likes to be hated, none of us likes to be shunned. A natural result of these conditions is, that we consciously or unconsciously pay more attention to tuning our opinions to our neighbor’s pitch and preserving his approval than we do to examining the opinions searchingly and seeing to it that they are right and sound." - Mark Twain
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I have a friend who always confuses half-elves with halflings, often to the DM's amusement.
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"Bastard" and "Red-scaled step-child" seem most likely answers. "Monster" and "abomination" would probably also get votes.
In my setting, most half and mixed breeds have names of their own, but they don't translate well to other settings. (F. ex., hybrid offspring between praeria humans and forest humans are called giants.) Anything with more than three parts in it is a chimaira."It's the fate of all things under the sky,
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Half Elves in Human Societies are not called Half Elf Half Human. Similarly I would expect that cultures would focus in on aspects of lineage and drop off other information.
Part Dragon (half dragon, quarter dragon, ... draconic) would be called Dragontouched unless their other half deviated significantly from the society.
Examples:
Half Dragon Elf in human society: Dragontouched Elf
Half Dragon Half Elf in human society: Dragontouched
Half Dragon 1/4 Human 1/4 Demon in human society: Demonblooded
Half Dragon 1/4 Human 1/8 Demon 1/8 [Abberation] in human society: Ah!!! Monster! Abberation! Ahh!
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however at a certain point, simplicity and ease of use makes demands, and thus anything with more than two races for parentage, can be referred to as an "Amalgamus" for short while keeping it non-offensive to them.Last edited by Lord Raziere; 2014-05-17 at 01:23 AM.
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