Half Githyanki?

[axraelshelm]

Okay character concept is a half human half Githyanki the class doesn't matter at the moment but i want to hear peoples opinions reguarding the racial abilities. I'm looking for a 0 level adjustment.
Now go crazy!

[Omniplex]

Half Githyanki, eh? Here's what I'm thinking
Half Githyanki
Medium Humanoid (Extraplanar)
+2 Dex, -2 Wis
Base Speed 30
Darkvision 60
Naturally Psionic: +3 PP
Psi-like abilities:
-Far hand 1/day
-Psionic Daze 1/day

Really it's just a watered down githyanki. Probably a little underpowered.

[oriong]

I'd say that looks pretty good for LA 0, the only thing is that traditionally a bonus to a physical score is offset by either another physical penalty or two mental penalties. Of course the dwarf ignores this, and wisdom is one of the more relevant mental ability scores so I wouldn't say it's overpowered.

[axraelshelm]

thanks i cant believe it took 2 hours for someone to come up with something.
Favored class fighter or psychic warrior?
I'm not sure i think +2 con, -2 wis. Because this is not a half Githzerai.
And yes to the power point bonus

[Nerd-o-rama]

Okay, first, ew.

Second, that block looks good to me. It's about on par with the Dwarf. And for a Half-Yanki, probably Favored Class Psychic Warrior.

[axraelshelm]

The concept is a classic one. A orphaned child raised by loving humans the mother was a Githyanki Psychic Warrior, she was powerful too powerful the Lich queen had her recalled from the matieral planes but not before giving birth to a half child with her traveling companion a human cleric.
The Father was given one of the silver swords to give to the half child when he grows up.
He's been over seeing the child from afar because his god told him that this child needs to find his own path and if the other Githyanki was to know of the childs existance they would not only kill the child but the rest of the church too.
So the pained father gaved up his only child the only thing reminding him of his glorious dead wife.
And in 20 years time that child shall be my character a Githyanki half child unburdern by the taboos and the horror of living in the Astral plane with all the other other Githyanki a child with the goodness of the human heart and hopfully the child that will set the Githyanki free of the Lich queen.

[Tengu]

Don't Githyanki and Githzerai lay eggs?

[Fax Celestis]

Half Githyanki, eh? Here's what I'm thinking
Half Githyanki
Medium Humanoid (Extraplanar)
+2 Dex, -2 Wis
Base Speed 30
Darkvision 60
Naturally Psionic: +3 PP
Psi-like abilities:
-Far hand 1/day
-Psionic Daze 1/day

Really it's just a watered down githyanki. Probably a little underpowered.

+3 PP is NOT LA+0. +1 PP is LA+0.

That'd be like saying, "Here, have three extra first-level spells (or a second-level spell after you level) per day!"

[axraelshelm]

Don't Githyanki and Githzerai lay eggs?

? I haven't read anything about them that says that? I mean they look alot like savage elves. And i've never seen or read about a humanoid laying eggs.

[Nerd-o-rama]

axraelshelm: Still ew. Giths always looked too reptilian for me to consider them "biologically compatible" with mammalian humanoids. Also, Lizardfolk are humanoids, and I'm pretty sure they lay eggs.

Fax_Celestis: this is why I need to learn the psionics rules.

[Gorbash]

Yup, they do. It has something to do with Mind Flayers torturing them for centuries and making sick experiments.

[pestilenceawaits]

In one of the older books (maybe planescape) it said they were descended from planar humans if I remember correctly.

[Estelindis]

Don't Githyanki and Githzerai lay eggs?

Hmmm, one of the members of my group, a first-ed old hand, played a Githyanki in one of my campaigns, and he seemed to think the same thing.

[Tengu]

I remember that the 3.0 book about planes (can't remember the name) said they lay eggs. Or was it the monster manual? Anyway, I'm sure they do.

So, pretending that a human-githyanki hybrid was possible, would it have been born or hatch from an egg? I think that it'd depend on the mother's race - if she was a human, the baby'd be born, if githyanki, she'd lay an egg.

Now forgive me, I need to make myself stop thinking about this. Which won't be easy.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Don't you mean Psionics?

[Tengu]

Gah, that spoiled the psionics for me! I've seen all those gaunt, bald, tattoo-covered, creepy guys as so innocent up until now...

[jjpickar]

Magic and Psionics? Working in perfect disharmony to produce a truly mind-rendingly horrible offspring? Yuck!

[Raistlin1040]

Shouldn't this be in homebrew?

[idioscosmos]

Magic. The baby is born by magic. From magic.

MAGIC.

Wait...is his name going to be Anakin? 'Cos if so, this isn't going to end well. And it's going to have a really cheesy romance.

/Yoda is a Goblin
//Actually, that'd be kind of cool...

[Arceliar]

Shouldn't this be in homebrew?

Yes. Yes it should.

[axraelshelm]

This seems more and more like teh mario bros the movies all over again.

[Skyserpent]

Wait... but the standard Githyanki favored class is MONK... I don't see why a Wisdom penalty is there...

I'd say a Charisma penalty but no one cares about Charisma...

[Zincorium]

Wait... but the standard Githyanki favored class is MONK... I don't see why a Wisdom penalty is there...

I'd say a Charisma penalty but no one cares about Charisma...

Um, actually the Githyanki favored class is fighter, you're thinking of the Githzerai. Admittedly, very similiar, but since full Githyanki have a wisdom penalty, it's not unsound to give one to the half-githyanki.

Half Githzerai seems like it would be hard to make a balanced version by just cutting things about in half, since they have a +6 to one physical score, and their mental scores balance out.

[axraelshelm]

I think a +2 con and a -2 wis is fair but the bonus psi points should either be 1 or 2.
But not sure about the favored class.

[JackMage666]

I'd go with the +1 power point, personally. It seems much more fitting for the +0 LA. Favored Class should be Psionic Warrior if Psionics is allowed in the campaign, Figher is it's not.

[Khantalas]

Favored Class should be Psychic Warrior if Psionics is allowed in the campaign, Figher is it's not.

And heresy! Psionics not allowed in a campaign? I understand magic being banned, but psionics? You want to be staked and torched and mauled?

[EvilElitest]

OK, their are few misconceptions here.
1. Nether of the Gith races lay eggs. Their are not reptlian in the least. They are green (or yellow) skinned yes, they are really really freaky looking yes, but they are not replties. They looks as freaky as they do because of their experience under mind flayer control and their envoiment. Githyanki look even freakier because they come from a world with no gravity. And they are not decended from elves or humans. They are their own stock of creatures.
Now, as disterbing as it seems, a half Githyanki is not an unthinkable idea. It is rarer than a half-orc because of the location, but if you look at the races, the odds of a human mating with a githyanki is far highter than an orc. It would not likly be rape, as
1. Githyanki is mildly female domanat but not to extend of keeping males as a breeding as a breeding stock, and Githyanki don't like to accosaite with lesser beings. HOwever as they have very deadly slave camps, it is quite possible.
More likly however, it would be a breeding program to have a score of slave races to serve them on the material planes, as spiesand such.
Githyanki will treat the slave badly but allow them to exist to serve their needs. They are a miltary race and are willing to do anything to preserve their power.
As for favorite class, that is easy. If you play with sonics, have their favored class be pyinoic warrior, because that is what pure breed githyanki's class is. If nott, than have it be fighter, like non pyonic githyanki.
Simple.
Not a half breed Githzerai would be far
rarer, as they like to avoid matieral plane races. However, they are not evil so...any hting is possible.
And one more note, cross breeding ewwwwwwww

[axraelshelm]

EVilelitest? where do you get your information from? about the gith races anyway?
I'm thinking about doing some light reading on the two races and hopefully play one at some point because of the level adjustment for both race i decided i need to find a level 0 equiflent.

[EvilElitest]

I really liked teh Gith races. After playing demon stone, the first game where i acully encounted them, i decieded to look into their cuilture. MM 3.5 has them, the expanded pyonics handbook as them, Lords of Madness has them, plane scape has them, planar handbook has them, the FR Underdark book has them, Maunal of the planes has them, MM 4 hasthem, (Is their a 5, i'm to lazy to to it up my self, but if their is its four or five) and they have a slightly different stroy in the player guide to Ebberon. Their are also some adventure with them. However, i really like the race, and so i looked them up online for for details, and if you goodle ether one you find a few more details about their culture. As for the half gith part of my post, that was my idea, because it seems to match the githyanki culture.
As for playing them, if you don't want ot play a half gith race, they are a player race in expanded pyonics hand book. In my own world, i've divied their race even more, making 95 percent of the race the phyic kind from the pyonic hand books, and the last 5 percent the normal kind from the monster maunels.
Oh they might be in savage species, but i don't have it so you would have to check. or are you asking about their culture.

[EvilElitest]

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