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    Last time on EGS, Sarah was busy trying to convince herself inside her head that she should build a vampire deck for the MagicKal Cards tournament (it sort of makes sense in context).

    For the new readers, El Goonish Shive is a long-running character-driven action-dramedy with elements of teen life, magical kung fu, gender-switching and all-around silly stuff happening. The art also undergoes a massive improvement since the beginning, so don't be too off put by the dramatic difference in quality at the start. It also shifts between "grey-scale" and color.

    Also worthy of note, this is the first time we've had a new thread due to thread length closing the last one, so make your suggestions for a proper title.
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    El Goonish Shive II - The Chaos Crusade
    El Goonish Shive II - The Last Genderbender
    El Goonish Shive II - The Senior Year
    El Goonish Shive II - Stranger than RWBY
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    Not a title that focuses the genderbend part. Don't really care beyond that.
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    El Goonish Shive II - Every Flavour Geeks

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    ...I don't think I'll be much help here. I just want to stick "Electric Boogaloo" on the end of it like a jackass.
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    El Goonish Shive II - We Have Green Hair!

    Okay, maybe I just got really hooked up on that hair colour thing that one time...

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    Actually, I will vote for this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
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    Yes, that's a good one. Switching my vote to that (from "just not anything that centralizes the genderbending")

    Um. Current title is typoed "Gonnish". And do we know why it ended four pages early?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertystop View Post
    Um. Current title is typoed "Gonnish". And do we know why it ended four pages early?
    Whim of the mods? I honestly have no idea.
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    El Goonish Shive II - Shive Harder
    El Goonish Shive II - I'm II young and II male II be the mother of a seventeen year old female me!
    El Goonish Shive II - I stand by my ridiculous comic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theNater View Post
    El Goonish Shive II - I stand by my ridiculous comic.
    Gotta say, I'm a big fan of this one. It has my vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theNater View Post
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    Same for me.
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    Vote re-changed to that.
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    Yeah, I'll change my vote again to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertystop View Post
    Yes, that's a good one. Switching my vote to that (from "just not anything that centralizes the genderbending")

    Um. Current title is typoed "Gonnish". And do we know why it ended four pages early?
    Gonnish, because Goonish is not a word anyway, so I didn't double check if it was spelled correctly, and the mods have been strapped for time, so they didn't want to risk having the threat run over page 50 by accident.
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    Nice title!
    Also I was thinking. Since this is also supposed to be a way to introduce people of the forum to the comic, and the start of EGS is... offputting, to say the least, we should crowdsource an introduction to the comic. IIRC Dan set up Indiana Elliot and the Temple of Swedish Furniture to sort of be that, but I don't know about that. Personally I started with the Sister II arc, and that worked for me, but it's far from optimal. Maybe a collection of "best moments" (without major spoilers) coupled with a better starting point for new readers? I don't know. Just putting it out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mormegil View Post
    Since this is also supposed to be a way to introduce people of the forum to the comic, and the start of EGS is... offputting, to say the least, we should crowdsource an introduction to the comic.
    My instinct is to point new readers at the Hammerchlorians arc. Relatively short, runs the entire emotional gamut, the only major reveal is the France story, recent enough that the art is solid. Gets the tone and style of the comic across.

    Thoughts?

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    I think they could start way earlier than that. I feel the artwork is acceptable as early as towards the end of Painted Black, but it might not be smart to start right in there. Still, Grace's birthday party would be totally okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theNater View Post
    My instinct is to point new readers at the Hammerchlorians arc. Relatively short, runs the entire emotional gamut, the only major reveal is the France story, recent enough that the art is solid. Gets the tone and style of the comic across.

    Thoughts?
    I actually started at hammerchlorians and read from there to the current part of the comic, and then jumped back, but having looked at "Indiana Elliot and the Temple of Swedish Furniture" I'd say that's a better starting point. The art is still solid, and it recaps the more important parts of the plot up until that point. (If you start at hammerchlorions arc then there's less exposition about what exactly the deal with Ellen and Elliot is). It's also a relatively short arc, and it introduces the lighter more funny part of the comic before the more serious chapter that comes next.

    I'm not sure if Sister 2 would be a better or worse starting point. I'll look into it.

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    My thought was to suggest new readers read just Hammerchlorians, then, if they liked that, go immediately back to the Goo. Hammerchlorians is kind of a self-contained EGS microcosm.

    If we're looking for a jump-in to bring them straight to current, then I'd think an in-comic recap would be handy. Indiana Elliot and the TOSF has a solid one, and there's a good one in Hidden Genesis(just prior to Sister II). I agree that the art is good enough by Painted Black, but that's definitely not where to throw a new reader in, and I don't recall a good recap between that and Grace's Birthday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theNater View Post
    My thought was to suggest new readers read just Hammerchlorians, then, if they liked that, go immediately back to the Goo. Hammerchlorians is kind of a self-contained EGS microcosm.

    If we're looking for a jump-in to bring them straight to current, then I'd think an in-comic recap would be handy. Indiana Elliot and the TOSF has a solid one, and there's a good one in Hidden Genesis(just prior to Sister II). I agree that the art is good enough by Painted Black, but that's definitely not where to throw a new reader in, and I don't recall a good recap between that and Grace's Birthday.
    Ya Hammerchlorians has my support as well for a good "intro arc"

    Also I think I now side with the people who think that this particular card game segment is dragging on. Its interesting but we don't need an entire week of Sarah talking to herself
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    I'm not sure why, but I'm thinking that she will end up making a Vampire/Werewolf deck, didn't George mentioned that a Werewolf deck with low-cost fliers was viable? I don't remember Inistrad well, but I'm sure they had some vampires that fit that description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silva Stormrage View Post

    Also I think I now side with the people who think that this particular card game segment is dragging on. Its interesting but we don't need an entire week of Sarah talking to herself
    I am entirely in favor of a week of Sarah talking to herself.

    For one, she needs more character development, for the third-oldest character. Also, she's adorable.
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    This is dragging on, but... we got sexy vampire Sarah fanservice (something I honestly thought was never gonna happen, what with her policy towards bikinis and all). #worth
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    And that went how we pretty much knew it would. I'm about ready to go back to the real world now.
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    Oh. It's Pandora. Oh dear.

    ...This has suddenly become far more plot-relevant than I hoped. I just wanted funny card game playing, dammit!

    In all seriousness, I'm wondering whether Sarah is about to get marked; perhaps the ones we saw weren't all already in existence?
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    I would LOVE for Pandora to be there actually for the card game. For what we know about her, she's interested in "things she can't predict", so... a newbie with a broken card in a card game tournament? Would that be enough to pick her interest? I'd love her to just be there for fun.
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    Huh, I am wondering if Luke's ability will detect Pandora at all. It seems possible at least if he has a specific "Detect Immortal Magic" ability. It would be amusing to see him stammer as he sees this massive aura with no source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silva Stormrage View Post
    Huh, I am wondering if Luke's ability will detect Pandora at all. It seems possible at least if he has a specific "Detect Immortal Magic" ability. It would be amusing to see him stammer as he sees this massive aura with no source.
    Considering Raven's Statement in this comic about Pandora's magic being undetectable (Even to Raven, an Elf), I'd presume not. Luke can detect magic, for sure, but Immortal magic is probably not included in that.

    Probably.
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