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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
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    Ahahahah!! SO loving Blackwing's attitude! XD
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    I want to see the giant Roc!!!

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    And so the plot... stays at exactly the same consistency.

    But yay, Blackwing!
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    That required some.... lightning fast reflexes.
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    Oh Blackwing. Also, Oh Belkar. You know proof doesn't stop anybody in D&D.
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    Ooh, giddy anticipation!
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    I don't know the specifics of how a forcewall is supposed to work in terms of physics, but I'm doubtful as to the effectiveness of that blocking strategy. And a bit moreso about trying to put lighting in a forcecage. You might even say Im... shocked.

    What V ought to do is fly above the clouds and case lightning bolt at an angle away from the ship towards the ground and discharge the cloud that way. But if Forcewall DOES work that way, kudos on some VERY good reaction times there.
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    Is Thor trying to strike down the airship, or is it wishful thinking of mine?
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    Blackwing continues to become the best character in the strip, while Roy hides behind his guilt, wanting so much for something to be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Thief View Post
    I don't know the specifics of how a forcewall is supposed to work in terms of physics, but I'm doubtful as to the effectiveness of that blocking strategy. And a bit moreso about trying to put lighting in a forcecage. What V ought to do is fly above the clouds and case lightning bolt at an angle away from the ship towards the ground and discharge the cloud that way. But if Forcewall DOES work that way, kudos on some VERY good reaction times there.
    The specifics are: Magic. I see no reason an impenetrable barrier would not stop a lightning strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Thief View Post
    I don't know the specifics of how a forcewall is supposed to work in terms of physics, but I'm doubtful as to the effectiveness of that blocking strategy. And a bit moreso about trying to put lighting in a forcecage. What V ought to do is fly above the clouds and case lightning bolt at an angle away from the ship towards the ground and discharge the cloud that way. But if Forcewall DOES work that way, kudos on some VERY good reaction times there.
    I had to look up the spell myself to be sure, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. As to the forcecage, it won't fit around the ship but by putting it between the ship and the lightning it should work.
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    I can't help noticing how V calls Durkula 'the former Master Thundershield.' Suspicion? Nah...I am prolly reading too much into it.

    Also, I love Blackwing.

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    I really hope we get to see Blackwing as a giant roc. If for no other than the fact that once the Giant makes the model, it will be so convenient to just use it again the next time V needs an interesting plan to polymorph something. Then the great rock Blackwing, lord of all dinosaurs! can become a standard part of the comic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    I see no reason an impenetrable barrier would not stop a lightning strike.
    Well lightning is an arc of electric current, and you can't just stop current midway through its path. Whatever arcane power thing is making the wall could be a voltage drain I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Thief View Post
    Well lightning is an arc of electric current, and you can't just stop current midway through its path. Whatever arcane power thing is making the wall could be a voltage drain I guess.
    It wouldn't be impenetrable if something could get through it.
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    I'm waiting with giddy anticipation for the Blackwing polymorphing!

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    Another fun page, Giant!

    I wonder what Belkar will do about the vampire Durkon... And I loved the interactions between V and Blackwing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    It wouldn't be impenetrable if something could get through it.
    Well if it just has really high resistance the lightning wouldn't go through it, it would just go around it. You know, electricity takes the path of least resistance and all that?

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    Hee hee, hilarious. I'm glad V is good buddies with his familiar, they have some of the best banter.
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    I don't know what is more amazing:
    1) V using his spells in a clever manner,
    2) further proof of the difference between Tier 1 spellcasters and everyone else,
    3) the anticipation of a roc'ed out Blackwing!

    But it does seem that Thor is pretty determined to take out the ship. Can't be good for the OOTS...

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    The Wall of Force, as per the spell description, can be only vertical, and from the drawing it does not seem to be the case.

    However, who cares. The feat V accomplished was awesome, and I can't wait to see the Roc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel View Post
    I'm waiting with giddy anticipation for the Blackwing polymorphing!
    Me too and to see the resin model of the Roc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicciograna View Post
    The Wall of Force, as per the spell description, can be only vertical, and from the drawing it does not seem to be the case.

    However, who cares. The feat V accomplished was awesome, and I can't wait to see the Roc.
    Given that the rules are regularly ignored whenever convenient (as per normal D&D) I see no issue with this.
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    Wall of Force blocks line of effect, therefore it blocks lightning just fine. The only truly iffy part here is noticing lightning before it fires and interposing the barrier in time.

    (Not that the Giant cares about our rules squabbling anyway )

    I'm also looking forward to RocWing though I do find it amusing V only uses Polymorph (an extremely useful spell) for the most niche situations. It's not like a Roc couldn't have trounced an Imp after all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heksefatter View Post
    I can't help noticing how V calls Durkula 'the former Master Thundershield.' Suspicion? Nah...I am prolly reading too much into it.

    Also, I love Blackwing.
    I didn't noticed this - at least to me this signals that V thinks that Vampire!Durkon != Durkon. Though I don't really understand why he/she doesn't say something about it.


    Though I'm now kinda unsure if this is really Thor's work.
    Especilly if V knows how Control Weather works, wouldn't it be better to just dismiss the storm to make it even clearer that Thor is meddling with the weather?

    Or does Thor really want to shoot the Mechane? Is he aware of Hel's plan somehow and wants to stop the High Priest of Hel ASAP?

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    Once again a great comic, I always really like the back and forth between V and Blackwing
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSt View Post
    Is he aware of Hel's plan somehow and wants to stop the High Priest of Hel ASAP?
    Things I am pretty sure Thor knows:
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