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    Post things in D&D 3.5 that annoy you.

    Like for me:
    What annoys me is when people take setting specific races and put them in other worlds/settings without bothering to have a reason for them to be there. Taking Warforged and putting them in the middle of Waterdeep 'cause you feel like it.
    There are other things too. Lots of them....

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    I guess you'd hate my campaign setting of Warforgopolis, then.....


    Nah, what annoys me are....

    -Druids being rediculously overpowered but for some reason they don't run the world. Also with Wild Shape and Animal Companion being pwnage, last night my friend remarked to me, "D&D seems like a furry's dream" and it pretty much killed the game for me. Maybe forever.

    -Only casters can put ranks into Craft [Alchemy]. Bwuh? This rule is beyond stupid, and I cheerfully ignore it in every game.

    -People who think that nothing that isn't Straight Outa Middle-Earth can be "fantasy." Seriously, let it go.

    -People who can't enjoy the game unless they're playing a Psionic Half-Dragon Minotaur Totemist or something equally absurd and anemic to the DM's setting. This is the opposite end of the coin from the Tolkienist. Mind you it's the Coin of Suck.

    -The Intimidate and Diplomacy skills. Too many people try to use their +35 mod in Diplomacy or whatever as a "win button," and this is clearly a case of design not matching intent. The Intimidate skill is also ****ed, as a charming halfling rogue is somehow better at demoralizing you in battle than a 6'6" howling orc Barbarian who happens to have Charisma 4.

    -The dependancy on gear. What really annoys me is how characters never get better at protecting themselves. A Dex 10 PC has a base AC of 10 at 1st level, and a base AC of 10 at 20th level. Eventually PCs have to turn themselves into walking reliquaries to be even competitive. Come on, even a character with subpar Dex, after 20 levels, should know how to evade attacks.

    -High Magic. I've never seen it done well anywhere, though Eberron comes close. It's just too hard to think about how it affects society, in how many ways, to have a bunch of Clerics and Wizards in every city. I'll continue to model my worlds more after the one we already know, thank you.

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    I'm going to second gear dependency. Every character on levels higher tham 1-5 is knee-deep in magical stuff. And on high levels, non-casters are completely dependent on their magic items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piedmon_Sama View Post
    -People who can't enjoy the game unless they're playing a Psionic Half-Dragon Minotaur Totemist or something equally absurd and anemic to the DM's setting. This is the opposite end of the coin from the Tolkienist. Mind you it's the Coin of Suck.

    -The Intimidate and Diplomacy skills. Too many people try to use their +35 mod in Diplomacy or whatever as a "win button," and this is clearly a case of design not matching intent. The Intimidate skill is also ****ed, as a charming halfling rogue is somehow better at demoralizing you in battle than a 6'6" howling orc Barbarian who happens to have Charisma 4.
    I can definatly agree with these two. What honestly bothers me is people who have no background or reason what-so-ever for their characters, they just think it would be cool. Honestly, this isn't Diablo 2, its a role playing game. I guess I just expect people to add alittle bit of "realism" into their characters. Some people see no problem with making these obsurd combinations, then expecting them to fit in everywhere and be able to do everything.

    Thats my main annoyance. The bad use of certain skills is also a little annoying, but it doesn't come anywhere close to the insanely-stupid character combinations with equipment and skills that would never make sense. I had a player one time (love him to death and all though, good friend) say his character lived alone in the mountains for his entire life (I guess just hunting and foraging). That part didn't irk me, but when I looked at his character sheet, I was alittle peeved to see languages such as Draconic. Maybe its me, but I don't see how someone living alone their entire life, shunned from existance with no resources, could teach themselves Draconic, or have crystal weapons and psionic skins for their 2 levels in psychic warrior...

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    That halflings don't have low-light vision or darkvision. Its absurd. They are the best rogues but dungeon crawl with a torch or a lamp. Its self defeating.
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    The "Pole/ladder" thing
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    Any phrase involving the words "roleplay" and "rollplay." It's not big, and it's not clever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd-o-rama View Post
    Any phrase involving the words "roleplay" and "rollplay." It's not big, and it's not clever.
    On the subject of phrases. People who think they can end a conversation just by repeating an over used phrase like "killing catgirls".
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    Gday

    One thign that really annoyed me with 3.5 was the change on the buff spells duration from 1 hour per catsre level to 1 minute. Honestly the whole flexibility and appeal of the buff spells was there long duration, it meant you could use all power to increase your or other powers not just on the off occasion it pops up you can make a difference in a fight over having a wide range of better spells memorised. I loved playing scorcerers or pallys who had no healing or damage ability but could assist greatly in battle and situations by increasing other PC's abilities to minimise weanesses afetr 3.5 it became so infeasible to have my repertoire of powers focused on 1 fight/obstacle increases.

    I agree so much with the players who only play this game to do gross ammounts of damage and play overpowered character with no roleplaying in mind. Honestly DND was aorund long before Blizzard, if your playing this game to compete with your party to do the most damage i personaly feel your not playign the gae for the right reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Closet_Skeleton View Post
    On the subject of phrases. People who think they can end a conversation just by repeating an over used phrase like "killing catgirls".
    You'd be suprised how well that works in real life....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd-o-rama View Post
    Any phrase involving the words "roleplay" and "rollplay." It's not big, and it's not clever.
    Knew a guy who completely killed our friendship with that. I kid you not. He was that bad. He simply could not wrap his head around concepts like "Heroes, by their very nature, are extraordinary and thus should have stats above mathematical average" and "Having good stats does not automatically prevent good roleplaying."
    Needless to say, that drives me up the wall.

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    On the subject of phrases. People who think they can end a conversation just by repeating an over used phrase like "killing catgirls".
    Amen. I saw a post somewhere where every sentence involved *Catgirl dies*. The points were valid (as I recall) but that simply got obnoxious.

    Unfortunately, I can think of nothing about D&D that annoys me that hasn't already been said. I can second (or third, or fourth) pretty much everything. Gear defining the character is a huge burr under my saddle. I don't mind halflings being lousy little dungeon-crawlers - makes them all the more readily extinctified.
    But I didn't like the magic trains of Eberron.
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    Bucklers. In DnD a buckler is a small shield that lets you wield a weapon in the same hand but can't be used for bashing.

    In real life a buckler is a small shield held in your hand with a name derived from a term meaning "metal fist" specifically used for bashing as well as concealing the weapon your holding in your other hand.

    You'd think they'd have fixed this in 3.5 but still most DnD players live with this monstrocity unknowing.
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    I have never asked because I have always overlooked it because I don't care but I guess I might as well do so now... what are catgirls?
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    I was going to write something negative, but I restrained myself. This is a negative thread and brought out mean dispiriting thoughts in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solaris View Post
    Amen. I saw a post somewhere where every sentence involved *Catgirl dies*. The points were valid (as I recall) but that simply got obnoxious.
    Sorry about that. I'm almost certain you're referring to one of my posts in the "PC Stupidity Stories" threads. I thought it was kinda funny, and I didn't realize that it was that obnoxious. I wish you had spoken up then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupkeyk View Post
    I have never asked because I have always overlooked it because I don't care but I guess I might as well do so now... what are catgirls?
    Catgirls. They look like this (and you know, it's hard to find good examples that aren't also vaguely pornographic...) Catgirls die when you start talking about "realism" and "physics", because they're so thoroughly unrealistic.

    edit: Gah! Half-fiend catgirl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cupkeyk View Post
    I have never asked because I have always overlooked it because I don't care but I guess I might as well do so now... what are catgirls?
    Anthropomorphic female cats. Either they look like women wearing cat ears and a tail, or they look like six-foot-tall bipedal cats with clothes, breasts, and opposable thumbs.
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    an d why do they die? what does that expression mean?
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    Some freakos actually get their rocks off on these catgirl things, it's an ugly side of Nerd Culture we try not to let the relatives in on. But basically it's a play off the old net-gag, "everytime you masturbate, God kills a kitten."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupkeyk View Post
    an d why do they die? what does that expression mean?
    Its a running joke around here that "when you try to bring physics into a fantasy discussion, God kills a catgirl." They even have a handy warning sign floating around somewhere......If I can find the link.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piedmon_Sama View Post
    Some freakos actually get their rocks off on these catgirl things
    Judgemental and prejudiced any?

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    Aaaaah, it's a het male thing...
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    -High Magic. I've never seen it done well anywhere, though Eberron comes close. It's just too hard to think about how it affects society, in how many ways, to have a bunch of Clerics and Wizards in every city. I'll continue to model my worlds more after the one we already know, thank you.
    In retrospect, I was too hasty with this statement. I think I come off a bit more close-minded towards magic than I really am. Eberron is a fine and dandy setting for what it is; "magic as technology" just doesn't jive with me because the terms are wholly separate in definition. Technology is understood, logical; magic is internal and has no explanation. As soon as you explain the process of magic, it stops being magic. In that regard I'd call Eberron a high-tech setting rather than a high-magic setting. (And I actually LIKE the everburning torch lamps, electric railcars and floating airships.)

    I don't think I'll ever play a game in Eberron, though.... I'm too fixed on coming up with my own settings, it's just too enjoyable for me. In the end I'll just take its best ideas and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Closet_Skeleton View Post
    On the subject of phrases. People who think they can end a conversation just by repeating an over used phrase like "killing catgirls".
    It especially bothers me when they don't even use it properly.

    Catgirls are only killed when the discussion involves real-life physics. Yet, somehow people think it applies to any discussion that only tangentially involves reality vs. fantasy, whether it involves physics or not. You know, they'll say something like, "Well, I had him run away from home because with the type of environment he was raised in, that seemed more realistic (Oops, there goes a catgirl)."

    Drives me up the wall.

    (Not that it hasn't also outlived its humor in actual physics discussions.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Piedmon_Sama View Post
    In retrospect, I was too hasty with this statement. I think I come off a bit more close-minded towards magic than I really am. Eberron is a fine and dandy setting for what it is; "magic as technology" just doesn't jive with me because the terms are wholly separate in definition. Technology is understood, logical; magic is internal and has no explanation. As soon as you explain the process of magic, it stops being magic.
    Some choice words for ya:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade_Tarem View Post
    Sorry about that. I'm almost certain you're referring to one of my posts in the "PC Stupidity Stories" threads. I thought it was kinda funny, and I didn't realize that it was that obnoxious. I wish you had spoken up then...

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    Things that annoy me:

    1) people who play D&D "to win", as if that's the point. They might not necessarily twink out their characters, but their goal is to win rather than to have an interesting journey. Ick.
    2) "win buttons" -- good ol' +40 to diplomacy, epic magic, wildshape/polycheese, etc. When I DM, I disable anything that gets to be abusive. I'll let people use wildshape, diplomacy, etc. but if it starts to get ridiculous I'll be like "oops, you used the win button too many times, now it's stuck."
    3) people who post on the forums "to win". Much like in D&D, the point is not to beat everyone else, but to have an interesting journey (and preferably learn some things along the way.)
    4) People who just can't play within the game world. Playing standard greyhawk? They want to play a psionic warforged vampire computer programmer. Playing a modern werewolf game? They want to play a knight on horseback. ARGH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LotharBot View Post
    2) "win buttons" -- good ol' +40 to diplomacy, epic magic, wildshape/polycheese, etc. When I DM, I disable anything that gets to be abusive. I'll let people use wildshape, diplomacy, etc. but if it starts to get ridiculous I'll be like "oops, you used the win button too many times, now it's stuck."
    You know, that really IS what DMs should do. And it gets my goat so bad when they complain it's "not fair." Fair? No, exploiting flaws in the rules, THAT'S what's not fair.

    The game world. Playing standard greyhawk? They want to play a psionic warforged vampire computer programmer. Playing a modern werewolf game? They want to play a knight on horseback. ARGH!
    I sorry. I just wan be speshul. :(

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    Plenty of things annoy me about D&D 3.x, but just in the spirit of adding to the list:

    That characters with a Strength Attribute of less than 12 derive no benefit from using a One Handed Weapon Two Handed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    Plenty of things annoy me about D&D 3.x, but just in the spirit of adding to the list:

    That characters with a Strength Attribute of less than 12 derive no benefit from using a One Handed Weapon Two Handed.
    Or even less than 14, because IIRC the 1.5x Str rounds down.

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    Judgemental and prejudiced any?
    Meh, I'd have to go with Piedmon here. Some fetishes go beyond the line of quirky into messed up. Granted the issue here isn't so bad as, say, furries (who are sick sick people in need of help), but if your ideal is something that doesn't (and likely never will) exist you are also in need of (less) help.

    Which brings me to my next point, and my main contribution here. I find it really annoying that admitting you game is risky because of the stereotypes attached to it. There ARE sane gamers out there, people who enjoy a round of DnD as much as a Halo match or a few rounds at the bar or any other more mainstream sort of social interaction. The problem is that the stereotypes are in my experience accurate far too often. Whether it's the guy who doesn't bathe, or has the social maturity of a 12-year-old when in his twenties, or who acts out his frustrations at literally being a 40-year-old virgin by only playing female prostitutes, or the guy who lives with his mom at 42 because he's too much of an ass to hold down a job (literally, I played with this guy), most of us have probably dealt with somebody who is mildly to possibly even seriously mentally ill.

    Since this is more than most non-gamers can say, "normal" gamers are sort of guilty by association. I don't like it, but I understand the logic. In reality most of the very weird people I've gamed with have at least some redeeming qualities, but a significant minority don't, and since these are the people that give gamers a bad name they are the ones that really annoy me.

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