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    These beauties, found in the DMG-II, intrigue me. In effect, any spell that has a range of "personal" or a target of "you" cast by someone wearing the bracelet automatically effects the target wearing the other bracer. The only drawback is that the duration is halved.

    Now, immediately, I think of Clericzilla. Put one of these puppies on, say, the party's Barbarian and the other on the party's Cleric, then cast your typical buffcombo. The Barbarian receives all the same effects!

    And if you have Divine Metacheese: Persistent, they'll last for twelve hours, instead of 24. Still pretty nice for the both of you.

    I'm also thinking about things like Celerity, Nerveskitter, spells that grant Gaze attacks...

    ...what would you use these for?

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    I've used them before. Careful planning turns them into beauties in a campaign. I've used them with False Life and Stoneskin (not at the same time as that is illegal), and the results were great.

    "Ah! A barbarian is charging at us!"
    "Don't worry men! Just start shooting him with arrows. He's too far away to get to us without getting seriously hurt!
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    I'd use these for Antimagic Field for the party tripper whenever there's an enemy caster around. It'd make AMF actually, y'know, useful.

    (Even more useful if you shape it with Extraordinary Spell Aim.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarkahn View Post
    I've used them before. Careful planning turns them into beauties in a campaign. I've used them with False Life and Stoneskin (not at the same time as that is illegal), and the results were great.

    "Ah! A barbarian is charging at us!"
    "Don't worry men! Just start shooting him with arrows. He's too far away to get to us without getting seriously hurt!
    "AH! HE'S MADE OF STONE NOW!"
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    "Someone fetch me my brown pants!"
    (A shiny cp to anyone who recognizes the last line)
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    As you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarkahn View Post
    As you wish.

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    Heh.

    On a side note, have you tried using the Spell Filter on at d20srd.org? You could set it up to only show Personal spells, if you're having trouble locating some.

    And on that note, I'ma go.
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    I'd use it to cast Contingency on all other party members, while holding a Rod of Extend Spell to keep the same duration.

    I'd Permanize anything someone found convenient on them.

    It would also be useful for the simple use of Heal spells. The tank can get in close and the cleric can stand back and Heal him without getting to anything's threat range. Emanation and burst spells would be useful in this way too - while the tank is getting a full attack, they'll also be the focal point for a nice spell effect every round. Or does it work that way?

    Shield spell. Duh.

    Pass it back and forth between the primary casters, who could of course tailor their lists to enhance. Makes a spell casting cohort even more useful.

    How much do these things cost?
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    Doesnt' work that way. Spell has to be Effect: Personal or Target: You. Also, if you take it off, the spell effect ends.

    I believe they're something to the tune of 11,000 gp for a pair, but I'm AFB at the moment.

    But Mage Armor'd be nice. As would, say, Swift Fly or, under certain circumstances, Feather Fall.
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    11,000 gp would be nice, but I am afraid they are more in the range of 60,000 gp. They are only really a viable possibility for higher level parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galathir View Post
    11,000 gp would be nice, but I am afraid they are more in the range of 60,000 gp. They are only really a viable possibility for higher level parties.
    Wow am I off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fax_Celestis View Post
    These beauties, found in the DMG-II, intrigue me. In effect, any spell that has a range of "personal" or a target of "you" cast by someone wearing the bracelet automatically effects the target wearing the other bracer. The only drawback is that the duration is halved.
    Wow, welcome to yet more True Strike cheese. As if the spell didn't cause enough problems (though I'm not sure what half of "until next round" is). Who needs Quicken Spell? Just hire a wizard lackey (a specialist Diviner, of course), give him one of these, and tell him to go hide in the woods and cast True Strike every round. Ker-chop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barawn View Post
    Wow, welcome to yet more True Strike cheese. As if the spell didn't cause enough problems (though I'm not sure what half of "until next round" is). Who needs Quicken Spell? Just hire a wizard lackey (a specialist Diviner, of course), give him one of these, and tell him to go hide in the woods and cast True Strike every round. Ker-chop.
    Two things: have to be within 60', and if it would result in an impossible duration, the spell fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fax_Celestis View Post
    Two things: have to be within 60', and if it would result in an impossible duration, the spell fails.
    Does a Rope Trick count as "within 60'"? Spells can't be cast across the interface, but they can within it.

    I think I'm making sure that if one of these ever shows up in a game I'm in, "half of until next round" is an impossible duration.

    Unless I'm the player.

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    The item actually says that "half of one round" is an impossible duration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fax_Celestis View Post
    The item actually says that "half of one round" is an impossible duration.
    Yes, but "half of until next round" isn't "half of one round".

    (Why do I have the feeling they specifically put that in because of True Strike?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by barawn View Post
    Yes, but "half of until next round" isn't "half of one round".

    (Why do I have the feeling they specifically put that in because of True Strike?)
    And Swift Fly, Swift Haste, &c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fax_Celestis View Post
    And Swift Fly, Swift Haste, &c.
    Why's Swift Haste excluded? I thought the duration was 1d4 rounds. It's only a 25% chance of failing. Besides, you can always target someone else with regular Haste, so really all you're netting is something between a 2nd and 3rd level spell.

    There's no "targetted True Strike" spell, as far as I know. Because it would be broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barawn View Post
    Why's Swift Haste excluded? I thought the duration was 1d4 rounds. It's only a 25% chance of failing. Besides, you can always target someone else with regular Haste, so really all you're netting is something between a 2nd and 3rd level spell.

    There's no "targetted True Strike" spell, as far as I know. Because it would be broken.
    Sure Strike, I believe, but that's +1/3 CL, not +20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galathir View Post
    11,000 gp would be nice, but I am afraid they are more in the range of 60,000 gp. They are only really a viable possibility for higher level parties.
    Or a mid-level Artificer with some cash to spend ;P god I think my party is gonna womp now... thank you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fax_Celestis View Post
    Sure Strike, I believe, but that's +1/3 CL, not +20.
    Yeah, when I saw Sure Strike, I was like "Oh look! It's a fixed, targeted True Strike." The fact that they had to nerf the bonus as much as they did just stresses how broken True Strike was.

    As a side note, I think clever wording in Moment of Prescience means it won't work at all (once used , spell ends - so only one use, period).

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    I'll have to get one of these... the cheese will be enough to make sadwichs for an army... (specially because my current DM doens't play well with high level magic... hehe)

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    Greatsword wielding leap attacking shock trooping wraithstriking frenzied berzerker power attacking for full, plus whatever else you normally use. (Extend wraithstrike with a rod obviously).
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    Don't forget the combat brute, for another x2!

    And with shock trooper, who needs wraithstrike?

    This is the item that will make everyone say "The wizard should buff the tank, as should the cleric!"

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    Think of the benefits of some melee class with Leadership and a caster cohort.

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    And if you have Divine Metacheese: Persistent, they'll last for twelve hours, instead of 24. Still pretty nice for the both of you.
    I wonder how would this work with extend spell or sudden extend (if it changes anything)? Can you chose in which order to apply metamagic?

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    Wow. For all the flak the DMG2 gets for its advice, I hear nothing but great things about its items and whatnot. I might actually need to grab it.
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    What flak it gets for its advice? I like its advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin the Tuna View Post
    Wow. For all the flak the DMG2 gets for its advice, I hear nothing but great things about its items and whatnot. I might actually need to grab it.
    Yeah, what flak? It's a great book.

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    Most of the flack I've seen is simply saying there's no new advice in the DMG2. It's freely accessible in other locations or even just common sense.

    Mind, I haven't read it, those are just the comments I've seen.
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