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    d20 5e Homebrew - The Inquisitor

    The Inquisitor

    Let those who would destroy us step into the light.



    Spell Slots per Spell Level
    Level Prof Special Cantrips
    Known
    1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
    1st +2 Divine Sense, Spellcasting 3 2
    2nd +2 Judgment, Mark of Inquisition, Channel Divinity 3 2
    3rd +2 Dogma and Morality 3 3
    4th +2 Ability Score Improvement 4 3
    5th +3 Beacon of Truth, Rebuke Heathen (CR 1/2) 4 4 2
    6th +3 Dogma and Morality Feature 4 4 2
    7th +3 4 4 3
    8th +3 Ability Score Improvement, Rebuke Heathen (CR 1) 4 4 3
    9th +4 4 5 3 2
    10th +4 Compelling Touch 5 5 3 2
    11th +4 Improved Judgment, Rebuke Heathen (CR 2) 5 5 3 3
    12th +4 Ability Score Improvement 5 5 3 3
    13th +5 5 5 3 3 1
    14th +5 Rebuke Heathen (CR 3) 5 5 3 3 1
    15th +5 Sanctified Mind, Dogma and Morality Feature 5 5 3 3 2
    16th +5 Ability Score Improvement 5 5 3 3 2
    17th +6 5 5 4 3 3 1
    18th +6 Rebuke Heathen (CR 4) 5 5 4 3 3 1
    19th +6 Ability Score Improvement, Dogma and Morality Feature 5 5 4 3 3 2
    20th +6 Final Judgment 5 5 4 3 3 2



    Class Features

    Hit Points
    Hit Dice: 1d8 per Inquisitor level
    Hit Points at 1st Level: 8+ your Constitution modifier
    Hit Points at Higher Levels: 1d8 (or 5) + your Constitution modifier per Inquisitor level after 1st

    Proficiences
    Armor: Light armor.
    Weapons: Simple weapons, martial weapons.
    Tools: Inquisitor Kit.
    Saving Throws: Constitution and Wisdom
    Skills: Choose two from History, Insight, Investigation, Medicine, Religion, Nature,Perception, Stealth.

    Equipment
    You start with the following equipment, in addition to the equipment granted by your background:
    • (a) any two simple weapons or (b) Long-sword and a shield or (c) Whip and 3 Spears.
    • (a) a Priest’s Pack or (b) an Explorer's Pack or (c) an Diplomat's Pack,
    • (a) a set of torturing tools or (b) a set of investigation tools.
    • A Light Crossbow, 20 bolts, Studded leather and an Inquisitor Kit.



    Spellcasting: As a conduit for divine power, you can cast Inquisitor spells. (the spell list is at the end of the post)
    Cantrips: At 1st level, you know four cantrips of your choice from the Inquisitor spell list. You learn additional Inquisitor cantrips of your choice at higher levels, as shown in the Cantrips known column of the Inquisitor table.

    Spellcasting Ability: Charisma is your spellcasting ability for your Inquisitor spells. The power of your spells comes from your devotion to your deity. You use your Charisma whenever a Inquisitor spell refers to your spellcasting ability. In addition, you use your Charisma modifier when setting the saving throw DC for a Inquisitor spell you cast and when making an attack roll with one.

    Preparing and CastingSpells: The Inquisitor table shows how many spell slots you have to cast your spells of 1st level and higher. To cast one of these spells, you must expend a slot of the spell’s level or higher. You regain all expended spell slots when you finish a long rest.You prepare the list of Inquisitor spells that are available for you to cast, choosing from the Inquisitor spell list. When you do so, choose a number of Inquisitor spells equal to your Charisma modifier + your Inquisitor level (minimum of one spell). The spells must be of a level for which you have spell slots.You can change your list of prepared spells when you finish a long rest. Preparing a new list of Inquisitor spells requires time spent in prayer and meditation: at least 1 minute per spell level for each spell on your list.

    Spell save DC = 8 + your proficiency bonus + your Charisma modifier
    Spell attack modifier = your proficiency bonus + your Charisma modifier


    Ritual Casting: You can cast a Inquisitor spell as a ritual if that spell has the ritual tag and you have the spell prepared.

    Spellcasting Focus: You can use a Badge of the Inquisition as a spellcasting focus for your Inquisitor spells.

    Divine Sense: The presence of strong evil registers on your senses like a noxious odor, and powerful good rings like heavenly music in your ears. As an action, you can open your awareness to detect such forces. Until the end of your next turn, you know the location of any celestial, fiend, fey or undead within 60 feet of you that is not behind total cover. You know the type (celestial, fiend, fey or undead) of any being whose presence you sense, but not its identity (the vampire Count Strahd von Zarovich, for instance). Within the same radius, you also detect the presence of any place or object that has been consecrated or desecrated, as with the hallow spell. You can use this feature a number of times equal to 1 + your Charisma modifier. When you finish a long rest, you regain all expended uses.

    Judgment: As an Inquisitor your deity gifts you with the right to judge others based on a set of principles you uphold. The Principles are different from deity to deity, and you should ask your DM to help you figure out a list of principles your Inquisitors Deity would expect him to uphold. The Judgment lasts one minute and you can use this feature a number of times equal to 1 + your Charisma modifier. The DC to resist a Judgment is 5 + charisma bonus + your proficiency bonus, and it is a Wisdom save. When you finish a long rest, you regain all expended uses. There are 4 different basic kinds of judgments a Inquisitor can inflict:

    1.Punish the Wicked: Gain an Prof bonus on Weapon Attack rolls made against the target for the duration of the judgment.

    2.Burn the Heretic: Add bonus damage to spells equal to your Prof, choose one of the following damage types as bonus : acid, cold, fire, lightning, thunder, radiant, or necrotic, the damage is of that type. If the spells has no damage component then gain Advantage on the attack roll.

    3.Know Thy Enemy: Gain an Advantage on Investigation checks made to determine the weakness and strengths of the target for the duration of the judgment.

    4.No one Expects the Inquisition: Gain and Advantage on Stealth and Deception Checks against the target, and if you act in the surprise round you have an advantage on attack rolls against the target as long as the surprise round last, in addition if you score a hit against the target during the surprised round its a critical hit.

    Your Judgments can be invoked for a greater effect using one of the Judgment spells(listed in the Inquisitor Spell list).

    Mark of Inquisition: You place a Divine Mark on a creature of no more than 6 symbols onto a creature, inflicting 1 point of damage. The mark may be placed on any exposed portion of the creature, typically the head or forearm. A Mark can be hidden by clothing or removed by scraping it away (causing 1d6 points of damage), though the brand returns if the damage is healed. The Mark lasts until you take a long rest, and you can have up to half your level of marks at any given time. As long as the mark is active you know when the target is within a mile of radius near you, you don't gain any other information about its location nor its condition. The divine marks Spell save DC = 8 + your proficiency bonus + your Charisma modifier, and the divine mark becomes permanent if it is cast on the same spot every day for a month.

    Rebuke Heathen: At 2nd level, you gain the ability to Rebuke Heathen. You must finish a short or long rest to use it again. When you use this an effect the DC equals your Inquisitor spell save DC. Beginning at 6th level, you can use this ability twice between rests, and beginning at 18th level you can use it three times between rests. When you finish a short or long rest, you regain your expended uses.

    As an action, you present your Badge of the Inquisition and speak a Damnation censuring the Heathens (Humanoid, Celestial, Fiend, Fey or any Specific Race, you make the choice when you use this feature). Each Heathen that can see or hear you within 30 feet of you must make a Wisdom saving throw. If the Heathen fails its saving throw, it is rebuked for 1 minute or until it takes any damage. A rebuked Heathen must spend its turns trying to move as far away from you as it can, and it can’t willingly move to a space within 30 feet of you. It also can’t take reactions. For its action, it can use only the Dash action or try to escape from an effect that prevents it from moving. If there’s nowhere to move, the creature can use the Dodge action.

    Starting at 5th level, when an Heathen fails its saving throw against your Rebuke Heathen feature, the creature is instantly compelled not to approach you within 30 feet (it can make a save against this part of the feature after any long rest) and gains a disadvantage on all actions made against you if its challenge rating is at or below a certain threshold, as shown in the Rebuke Heathen table.

    Rebuke Heathen:
    Inquisitor Level Rebuke Heathen of CR

    5th- 1/2 or lower
    8th - 1 or lower
    11th - 2 or lower
    14th - 3 or lower
    18th - 4 or lower


    Dogma and Morality: You pick one of the four Dogma and Moralities that the Inquisition uses. Your choice grants you features at 3rd level and again
    at 6th, 15th, and 19th level.

    Ability Score Improvement: When you reach 4th level, and again at 8th, 12th, 16th, and 19th level, you can increase one ability score o f your choice by 2, or you can increase two ability scores of your choice by 1. As normal, you can’t increase an ability score above 20 using this feature.

    Beacon of Truth: Your fervor for truth and Justice Bends the world around in such a way that a permanent aura of truth extends from you in a 5 feet circle (like the spell Zone of Truth) with a Spell save DC = 8 + your proficiency bonus + your Charisma modifier. You can use this feature a number of times equal to 1 + your Charisma modifier, it last for one minute. When you finish a long rest, you regain all expended uses.

    Compelling Presence: Your Presence alone is strong enough to compel creatures with similar ideals to your whims, gaining advantage on investigation, Deception, intimidation and Persuasion as long as the creatures share your base alignment (good, evil or neutral). Also you gain the spell Suggestion as a touch attack against the target influenced by your Presence. You can use this feature a number of times equal to 1 + your Charisma modifier. When you finish a long rest, you regain all expended uses.

    Improved Judgment: At 11th level your Judgments become more potent, you gain the ability to use two of your judgments at the same time, and are able to target the same or different targets with them, also you gain 1d6 bonus on all checks made against the target under the effect of your judgment.

    Sanctified Mind: Your are immune to psychic damage, any effect that would sense your emotions or read your thoughts, divination spells, and the charmed condition. This even foils wish spells and spells or effects of similar power used to affect your mind or to gain information about you.

    Final Judgment: Your Judgment becomes the Word of your Deity, Gain the use of one of the power words per day. (Power Word Stun, Power Word Kill, Power Word Pain, Power Word Truth)


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    Cantrips: Blade Ward, Friends/Foes, Guidance, Light, Mending, Message, Resistance, Sacred Flame, True Strike, Spare/End The Dying and Thaumaturgy.

    1. Alarm, Bane, Bless, Command, Cure Wounds, Comprehend Languages, Detect Evil and Good, Detect Magic, Detect Poison and Disease, Disguise Self, Divine Favor, Illusory Script, Guiding Bolt, Heroism, Inflict Wounds, Protection from Evil and Good, Purify Food and Drink, Sanctuary, Shield of Faith.

    Judgment Of Darkness
    Judgment Of Light
    Judgment Of Faith

    2.Aid, Augury, Blindness/Deafness, Calm Emotions, Scorching Ray, Shatter, Continual Flame, Enhance Ability, Find Traps, Gentle Repose, Hold Person, Lesser Restoration, Locate Object, Protection from Poison, Silence, Spiritual Weapon, Warding Bond, Find Steed, Magic Weapon,Invisibility, See Invisibility.

    Judgment Of Power
    Judgment Of Weakness
    Judgment Of Fear

    3.Bestow Curse, Haste, Slow, Clairvoyance, Daylight, Dispel Magic, Glyph of Warding, Magic Circle, Protection from Energy, Remove Curse, Sending, Speak With Dead, Spirit Guardians, Tongues, Elemental Weapon, Fear, Non-detection.

    Judgment Of Pain
    Judgment Of Pleasure
    Judgment Of Failure

    4. Banishment, Death Ward, Divination, Freedom of Movement, Guardian Of Faith, Locate Creature, Compulsion, Confusion, Greater Invisibility, Phantasmal Killer,

    Judgment Of Healing
    Judgment Of Bleeding

    5.Commune, Modify Memory, Dispel Evil and Good, Flame Strike, Geas, Greater Restoration, Hallow, Legend Lore, Mass Cure Wounds, Scrying, Destructive Wave.

    Judgment Of Death




    Dogma and Morality




    The Exterminators

    Some may question your right to destroy. Those who understand realise that you have no right to let them live!


    3.Exterminating Judgmen. You Gain The Exterminate Judgment, and an proficiency in the Poisoners kit and Exterminators tools .
    Exterminate: Once per turn, you can deal an extra 1d8 damage to the target of this judgment when you hit with an attack and if you have advantage on the attack roll. The attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon. You don’t need advantage on the attack roll if another enemy of the target is within 5 feet of it, but only if that enemy isn't incapacitated, and you don’t have disadvantage on the attack roll. The amount of the extra damage increases as you gain levels in this subclass, as shown in the Exterminate Attack column.
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    2.-
    3. 1d8
    4. 1d8
    5. 1d8
    6. 2d8
    7. 2d8
    8. 2d8
    9. 3d8
    10. 3d8
    11. 3d8
    12. 4d8
    13. 4d8
    14. 4d8
    15. 5d8
    16. 5d8
    17. 5d8
    18. 6d8
    19. 6d8
    20. 6d8


    6.Exterminators Lure. An Exterminator learns how to attract the "pests" into a eradicating trap. Pick a type of "pest" (Aberrant, Celestial, Fiend, Fey or Undead) you spend an hour in preparation of a lure, something the "pest" cant resist to go after, the type of lure changes depending on the type of "pest" you want to attract. A lure costs the "pests" CR*100 gold, a legendary or highly intelligent pests can make an Investigation check with a dc of Your Inquisitor Level + 2 + d20 roll, or if you take an extra hour of preparation when you make the lure your Your Inquisitor Level + your deception check. When the "pests" fails its Investigation check and falls for your lure it enters the designated trap area (the area must be at least one size category larger then the "pest" up to three times its size) and you and any ally with you gain a Surprise round before it notices you. Most of the time the "pest" will eradicated in the surprise round, but if the battle continues you gain an advantage on attack rolls as long as the pests stays in the trap zone. This ability can be used once day.

    15.Their weakness is my weapon. You gain a Divine ability to make weapons and ammunition gain one of the qualities listed below for one hour if you are holding them, If you give it to someone else or drop it loses this effect after one minute, when the effect ends your weapons and ammunition revert back to their normal state. You must use Holly Water or Holly Incense when applying this effect to your weapons.

    Weapon and ammunition qualities : Adamantine, Dragonbane, Cold Iron, Silvered, Acid, Fire, Cold, Lighting, Thundering, Radiant and Necrotic.

    19.Bound by Bane.


    The Justicer

    For The Greater Good!

    3.Justicar Judgment.
    The Weapon of Faith :
    6.A Sinful Mind cannot Hide.
    15.Justice demands Retribution.
    19.I am Law.

    The Questioners

    Innocence proves nothing!

    3.Questioner Judgment:
    I ask the Questions:
    6.My Questions leave Marks.
    15.There are two sides to every question.
    19.Answers writ in Blood.

    The Truth Seekers

    Ask not The Truth Seekers a Question for they will give you Three Answers; all of which are True and Horrifying to Know...

    3.Truth Seeker Judgment.
    I Speak Nothing but The Truth:
    6.Mine is the Righteous Path
    15.When Truth Screams
    19.The Truth is .
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    This looks like it's going to be extremely cool when it's finished. Obviously the class still need finishing, but so far so good. That said I think a few of the class features, divine health in particular, look a tad under powered. All and all I look forward to this homebrews completion and i like your use of stock art in the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PiggDaddy View Post
    This looks like it's going to be extremely cool when it's finished. Obviously the class still need finishing, but so far so good. That said I think a few of the class features, divine health in particular, look a tad under powered. All and all I look forward to this homebrews completion and i like your use of stock art in the post.
    Hey Thank you :D. I would love some more input on the other class features.
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    I'm totally waiting for the subclasses to comment. This is one of my favorite fantasy concepts, and while the avenger-like oath of vengeance enforcer divine warrior is great i really miss a "divine rogue". so i'll wait for you to finish and translate it to my class documents for my players to use
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    This is sort of just nitpicking, but from the Mark of Inquisition description: "You place a Divine Mark on a creature of no more than 6 characters onto a creature, inflicting 1 point of damage."

    It took me quite a few readthroughs the first time to get what that was saying, largely because of the confusion between "characters" as written symbols vs "characters" as discrete acting entities in an role playing game. Maybe rephrase it to: "You place a Divine Mark (consisting of up to 6 letters or symbols) onto a creature. This deals 1 point of damage." Also, how many times per day can you use the Mark of Inquisition? Or is it at will?

    There are a few other places where the wording is a tiny bit awkward, but since this is a WIP I will refrain from being anal retentive. Really, that one in the Mark of Inquisition was the only one that made it a little hard to figure out what was going on.

    Other than that, I really like it so far! The Judgements are interesting and flavorful (#4's name made me laugh, of course). I think that Judgements #1 and #4 are too powerful. Advantage should be harder to come by at low levels, and #4's autocrit on top of advantage to attacks and stealth rolls seems incredibly good.

    Under Improved Judgement, you call the +1d6 to rolls a fervor bonus. This is another nitpick, but I don't think that bonuses are typed in 5E any longer. I think you can just say that you add 1d6 to your rolls against the target, and leave it at that.

    I'll be following your continued progress with the class! It looks cool, and I know just the player that might be interested in playing it. Those pics for the Dogmas and Moralities look pretty promising, so keep up the good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Mirror View Post
    This is sort of just nitpicking, but from the Mark of Inquisition description: "You place a Divine Mark on a creature of no more than 6 characters onto a creature, inflicting 1 point of damage."

    It took me quite a few readthroughs the first time to get what that was saying, largely because of the confusion between "characters" as written symbols vs "characters" as discrete acting entities in an role playing game. Maybe rephrase it to: "You place a Divine Mark (consisting of up to 6 letters or symbols) onto a creature. This deals 1 point of damage." Also, how many times per day can you use the Mark of Inquisition? Or is it at will?
    The mark can be used only once per day(once before taking a long rest), i will look it up in the text and word it better.

    I will fix that right away, pleas tell me where you have other problems understanding the wording, English is not my native language :D

    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Mirror View Post
    Other than that, I really like it so far! The Judgements are interesting and flavorful (#4's name made me laugh, of course). I think that Judgements #1 and #4 are too powerful. Advantage should be harder to come by at low levels, and #4's autocrit on top of advantage to attacks and stealth rolls seems incredibly good.

    Under Improved Judgement, you call the +1d6 to rolls a fervor bonus. This is another nitpick, but I don't think that bonuses are typed in 5E any longer. I think you can just say that you add 1d6 to your rolls against the target, and leave it at that.
    I will see what can be done with the first, maybe a prof bonus to attack rolls, but the 4 is made to be like that, you invoke it at puff it is gone, i mean it still applies to the target and you gain bonuses for the deception and stealth checks, but the surprise round will end and you cant auto-crit if you hit anymore, it was based of the assassin sub class of the rouge.

    I am still thinking what to do with improved judgment, i like the idea of using two judgments at the same time, but the 1d6 bonus seems weak.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiBastet View Post
    I'm totally waiting for the subclasses to comment. This is one of my favorite fantasy concepts, and while the avenger-like oath of vengeance enforcer divine warrior is great i really miss a "divine rogue". so i'll wait for you to finish and translate it to my class documents for my players to use
    It is actually your Artificer that inspired me to do the conversion :D, one of my players will be using it in Expedition to Castle Ravenloft (i am converting it also...) we are going to run, but we changed it around to work like the sorcerer for the "spellcasting".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dazbogdan View Post
    It is actually your Artificer that inspired me to do the conversion :D
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    I love what your doing here, I look at this page couple times a day to see what you add, keep it up man, Im going to use this class in a campaign

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exgladius View Post
    I love what your doing here, I look at this page couple times a day to see what you add, keep it up man, Im going to use this class in a campaign
    Thank you, i think i have it done today, will just have to type it over from my note book.
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    It looks really good so far. I hope you finish it soon.

    Hard to comment more until we see some subclasses.

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    The wait is killing me, hahah
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiBastet View Post
    The wait is killing me, hahah
    Well i am testing as i work on it so i have to balance some things out :D, but it will be done soon.
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    Eaguerly waiting for the Justicer and Truth Seeker, while also hoping that the waiting won't actually kill me.

    Brew on!

    ...and brew fast!

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    Looks like a really cool class, nice work!

    One thing I noticed is that your proficiencies include Constitution and Wisdom, but the Inquisitor's spellcasting ability is Charisma. For the sake of consistency, it seems like either she should get proficiency in Charisma saving throws, or her primary spellcasting ability should be Wisdom, which would make more sense to me thematically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EternalHobbyist View Post
    Looks like a really cool class, nice work!

    One thing I noticed is that your proficiencies include Constitution and Wisdom, but the Inquisitor's spellcasting ability is Charisma. For the sake of consistency, it seems like either she should get proficiency in Charisma saving throws, or her primary spellcasting ability should be Wisdom, which would make more sense to me thematically.
    Oh Constitution is a mistake, See i think it is more Like the Paladin but more of a Social and in the Grey area of Divine. That's why i set charisma.
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    Small update, i will finish the sub-classes on Tuesday, have no free time for homebrewing right now :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exgladius View Post
    Sub classes or Riot! :)
    Working currently on them, ETA 5 hours!*
    Edit, will have to finish it tomorrow some re-balancing is needed
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    good sofar, hope to see this get finished :-)
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    While a decent concept it is clunky to keep track of and overpowered in a few different respects.
    1. In total you have about 5-6 different pools to keep track of on top of spells, all of which gain a rather large number upon first getting the ability.
    2. Adding your proficiency bonus again to all attacks is very large in this game and the fourth option can be spammed to all heck and back with the Exterminator Dogma. The third one is too limited to really take all that seriously.
    3. Rebuke Heathen has no specification for the target/s as such it is crowd control to any thing small to your desire and really goes against flavor.
    4. You get automatic mind blank at the same level full casters do except you are doing 6 times a day with no concentration. This is so borked beyond reason aside from the lack of a specified action.
    5. This class gets an inordinate amount of cantrips, rather or not that is a problem more or less depends on them cantrips.
    6. Charisma is an odd stat to base this off of as Inquisitors are traditionally more skill based.
    7. The Exterminator having a holy ward of damage simply makes no sense as he is the assassin of the 4.
    8. The level 20 ability really just says you get 4 9th level spells known and one use of it a little underwhelming in terms of usage as well as in relation to others. It really doesn't have any affect advantage.
    9. Lots of dead levels
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnoriath View Post
    6. Charisma is an odd stat to base this off of as Inquisitors are traditionally more skill based.
    I tend to agree - 5th has a plethora of Charisma based classes. I'd go with Int, personally - while Wisdom is the go to for a divine, I think Int makes a more interesting choice and fits better with the schema of the Inquisitor. (I houseruled it in Pathfinder as well).

    Having said that, I like this, though I think I'll let me resident Inquisitor player look it over before passing final judgement.

    Nice work though :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnoriath View Post
    While a decent concept it is clunky to keep track of and overpowered in a few different respects.
    1. In total you have about 5-6 different pools to keep track of on top of spells, all of which gain a rather large number upon first getting the ability.
    2. Adding your proficiency bonus again to all attacks is very large in this game and the fourth option can be spammed to all heck and back with the Exterminator Dogma. The third one is too limited to really take all that seriously.
    3. Rebuke Heathen has no specification for the target/s as such it is crowd control to any thing small to your desire and really goes against flavor.
    4. You get automatic mind blank at the same level full casters do except you are doing 6 times a day with no concentration. This is so borked beyond reason aside from the lack of a specified action.
    5. This class gets an inordinate amount of cantrips, rather or not that is a problem more or less depends on them cantrips.
    6. Charisma is an odd stat to base this off of as Inquisitors are traditionally more skill based.
    7. The Exterminator having a holy ward of damage simply makes no sense as he is the assassin of the 4.
    8. The level 20 ability really just says you get 4 9th level spells known and one use of it a little underwhelming in terms of usage as well as in relation to others. It really doesn't have any affect advantage.
    9. Lots of dead levels
    1. The player that is using this class in my Campaign dose not mind the the resource poll tracking, so that could be changed to a different value or even to a fixed value of that goes up every half a dozen of levels.
    2. That is the point of judgments, they are overpowered, they have a fixed time and can be be resisted (i just looked i didint writ that part down, will be fixed)
    3. Could you elaborate more on this?
    4. I will add that it is used as a bonus action, and will change it to once per day. (as a level 8 spell on level 15 a cleric can cast one, so this looks ok from my point of view)
    5. Yes this will be changed
    6. As i said before this is my choice, anyone can change this to something else but i see the Inquisitor as more of a Social Class some that influences people it's not a pure holy rouge.
    7. He is not a assassin. He is more of a holy rouge if any of the sub classes are.
    8. Sure you gain them, like the cleric gains spells and a way to commune with his Deity, but them being underwhelming i don't agree.
    9. I don't see this, i mean i built him using main classes from PH, and they have the same amount of "Dead Levels"
    Thank you for the input :D

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodoxus View Post
    Having said that, I like this, though I think I'll let me resident Inquisitor player look it over before passing final judgement.
    Nice work though :)
    Thank you :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by dazbogdan View Post
    1. The player that is using this class in my Campaign dose not mind the the resource poll tracking, so that could be changed to a different value or even to a fixed value of that goes up every half a dozen of levels.
    2. That is the point of judgments, they are overpowered, they have a fixed time and can be be resisted (i just looked i didint writ that part down, will be fixed)
    3. Could you elaborate more on this?
    6. As i said before this is my choice, anyone can change this to something else but i see the Inquisitor as more of a Social Class some that influences people it's not a pure holy rouge.
    7. He is not a assassin. He is more of a holy rouge if any of the sub classes are.
    8. Sure you gain them, like the cleric gains spells and a way to commune with his Deity, but them being underwhelming i don't agree.
    9. I don't see this, i mean i built him using main classes from PH, and they have the same amount of "Dead Levels"
    Thank you for the input :D
    1. However that means you have about 30 different uses on top of spells, many of which have durations.
    2. You don't specify a kind of save and the DC is ludicrous ranging from 3 to 26. Also, a minute will last most battles. You basically have 2 that overpowered, one too specific to waste it on, and another which reflects more of a wizard since it only applies to spells.
    3. It means that at this point when using the ability you can say humanoid and effectively ban the good king from his throne room. I don't think that is proper flavor of the ability.
    4. Clerics are far more likely to influence people than Inquisitors, look at history and their crunch to trust their God along with domains. It is also something lacking in the divine realm.
    5. He gets an ability that adds damage by sneaking up, then he gets a trap that allows him and all allies to attack better, then he gets vulnerability attunement, and then he gets holy ward that deals damage. If it is to be compared to anything it is to an assassin as the rogue at least would have various skills and more actions.
    6. I am not saying 9th level spells suck, just that your full casters did this about 3 levels earlier, meaning why does this have them? Why isn't it capping off its mechanics or adding something unique?
    7. You have 5 dead levels, only a couple full casters compare to the amount you have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnoriath View Post
    1. However that means you have about 30 different uses on top of spells, many of which have durations.
    2. You don't specify a kind of save and the DC is ludicrous ranging from 3 to 26. Also, a minute will last most battles. You basically have 2 that overpowered, one too specific to waste it on, and another which reflects more of a wizard since it only applies to spells.
    3. It means that at this point when using the ability you can say humanoid and effectively ban the good king from his throne room. I don't think that is proper flavor of the ability.
    4. Clerics are far more likely to influence people than Inquisitors, look at history and their crunch to trust their God along with domains. It is also something lacking in the divine realm.
    5. He gets an ability that adds damage by sneaking up, then he gets a trap that allows him and all allies to attack better, then he gets vulnerability attunement, and then he gets holy ward that deals damage. If it is to be compared to anything it is to an assassin as the rogue at least would have various skills and more actions.
    6. I am not saying 9th level spells suck, just that your full casters did this about 3 levels earlier, meaning why does this have them? Why isn't it capping off its mechanics or adding something unique?
    7. You have 5 dead levels, only a couple full casters compare to the amount you have.
    1. Yes and? I mean as i said this is made for a player in my game, if it becomes tedious to track we will change but for now it is ok for both of us.
    2. I just did update what type of save it is, and it is lower the normal saves to balance it out. Each sub class has a Judgment of its own.
    3. Sure you can do that, but what will happen to player that dose that? I mean a Wizard can enter a room and just chuck a fireball at the good king.
    4. I out right don't agree on this point, but that is up to ones opinion, you have yours and i have mine.
    5. I am changing the last ability to better reflect on the role he should have.
    6. Well i see your point, i to would like to give it some flavor of its own, but for now the ability will remain as it is if i do figure out something better i will add it in. :)
    7. Yea and, i mean they gain extra ability on other levels, this can be tweaked easily by moving the ability around, but i don't see the need to change this right now, after some playing and gaming if the problem comes up i will change it.

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    Ok, I've been dissecting this a bit more - yay for boring Sunday mornings :)

    1st - I would put this on the Warlock chassis, rather than the Paladin; honestly as written, it's essentially a modified Paladin Oath - not bad, per se, but again, it's a bit of 'been there, done that.' What the Warlock chassis would do is provide a different mechanic, allowing the spells to be reset on a short rest, but fewer of them (granted, since you haven't laid out the spells yet, its harder to judge their effectiveness in either fashion, but that's ok). Found the hidden list... Second, it would allow the Judgments to be akin to Invocations - keep them at 1 minute duration with 1+(casting stat - I'm still using Int, but Cha is fine) - but you can build more than 4, have them be a mix of clerical and paladin type bonuses - add level requirements (a paladin smite of various effects at higher levels, etc). Offer more choices to the players this way. Third, you remove the focus from being a half caster to being a warlock - lite caster. Granting only up to 5th level slots (no Mystic Arcanum type ability). I'd use the exact same levels you're offering new spell levels as new slot levels.

    2nd - Because you're not granting any melee combat actions, I'd do a couple of things. Rogue get a bonus Ability Score Improvement at 10th, and Fighters get 2 extra, at 6th and 14th. I'd offer the Inquisitor to gain one at 6th - it front loads the abilities/feats somewhat, but it does discourage you to multiclass out to dip into fighter. Secondly, I'd offer a few of the Cunning Actions from the rogue list. Dash, Disengage and Dodge are probably sufficient.

    3rd - Mark of Inquisition is kinda meh. Also, the mechanic for applying it wasn't addressed. I'd change it to read: "Starting at 2nd level. as a Bonus Action, you place a divine mark onto a creature by making a melee spell attack, inflicting 1 point of damage. The mark may be placed on any exposed portion of the creature, typically the head or forearm. A Mark can be hidden by clothing or removed by scraping it away (causing 1d6 points of damage), though the brand returns if the damage is healed. The Mark lasts until you take a long rest, and you can place up to half your inquisitor level of marks at any given time. As long as the mark is active you know when the target is within a mile radius of you, however, you don't gain any other information about its location nor its condition. Additionally, you gain Advantage on any attacks made against a marked creature." I took out the permanency portion - I find permanent things questionable in a combat oriented game, where if you're keeping a captive for a month, you probably should hand him off to the authorities - YMMV, and certainly feel free to add it back in.

    4th - Rebuke Heathen - I changed the wording on the definition of heathen to be "Any creature not of your religion" - might be OP, but your original wording was basically just as vague... Also, I changed the 5th level boost, naming it "Compel Heathen" and rewording that as "Starting at 5th level, when a creature fails its saving throw against your Rebuke Heathen feature, the creature falls to the ground helpless if its challenge rating is at or below a certain threshold, as shown in the Compel Heathen table." It's akin to Destroy Undead - and while I agree that Destroying people is OP, forcing them to fall down helpless (and we're talking very low CR comparable levels) groveling at your feet under the Might of your Deity was very evocative of the power of inquisitors. Plus, granting Disad on actions against you when they're already rebuked didn't make much sense.

    I've gotten up through Beacon of Truth - as I find more things, I'll let you know. Oh, you might want to do a quick Find/Replace - you have Cleric in a few places that Inquisitor should be. I'm also terribly interested in how your other Dogmas are coming out. :)

    Please don't take these as anything more than constructive suggestions - I really am quite impressed with the class.
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    Oh, couple other things, since you didn't define what an Inquisitor Kit was, I changed that to Disguise Kit. Also, I modded the skills section, since you didn't include very many skills that would be useful for an inquisitor. I'd offer 3 skills from the following list: Deception, Disguise, History, Insight, Intimidation, Investigation, Medicine, Religion, Perception, Persuasion, and Stealth.

    A primary reason is, Compelling Presence grants advantage on Deception, Intimidation, Investigation and Persuasion, yet you're only proficient in Investigation? That doesn't seem overly helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dazbogdan View Post
    1. Yes and? I mean as i said this is made for a player in my game, if it becomes tedious to track we will change but for now it is ok for both of us.
    2. I just did update what type of save it is, and it is lower the normal saves to balance it out. Each sub class has a Judgment of its own.
    3. Sure you can do that, but what will happen to player that dose that? I mean a Wizard can enter a room and just chuck a fireball at the good king.
    4. I out right don't agree on this point, but that is up to ones opinion, you have yours and i have mine.

    Thank you for the input.
    1. It means for the most part their really isn't much holding him back from always having something, but at the same time he really can't prioritize which one depending on their build or situation because it is different pools with set numbers.
    2. While you have cleared some things up, it really isn't the point. Is judgement from a flavor stand point anything an enemy says does not exist or is it something of the Inquisitor's rationale? This directly ties in having to think about the base role of this class behind its flavor. While the exterminator is an assassin gish and I am assuming the Justicer is better at martial prowess(probably extra attack..etc?) what about the other 2 and core of this class. In some ways you convey a skilled lurker with some specific hunting like abilities but it is only proficient in 2 skills and a kit. You gain martial weapons but at base it is one attack with no bonus damage or damage die, at least the cleric gains abilities aside from spells to make it a good single hit. In fact, almost all of the good abilities either are or tie more into field control, blasting, and enchantment.
    3. Is a good king who could very well be a worshiper of your god should be called a heathen? Also your ability selects a type so he isn't just doing this to the king he is doing it to the room and everywhere he goes for a minute. This gives him a lot of time to do whatever to anyone that in any kind of logic would not be considered heathens.
    4. How is he more of rogue than an assassin?
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    So here's what I was thinking the Warlock chassis would look like in table form:


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    1st +2 Divine Sense, Spellcasting 2 2 1 1
    2nd +2 Judgment, Mark of Inquisition, Rebuke Heathen 2 2 2 1 2
    3rd +2 Dogma and Morality 2 3 2 1 2
    4th +2 Ability Score Improvement 2 3 2 1 2
    5th +3 Beacon of Truth, Compel Heathen, Rebuke Heathen (CR 1/2) 3 4 2 2 3
    6th +3 Ability Score Improvement 3 4 2 2 3
    7th +3 Dogma & Morality 3 5 2 2 3
    8th +3 Rebuke Heathen (CR 1) 3 5 2 2 3
    9th +4 Ability Score Improvement 4 6 2 3 4
    10th +4 Compelling Presence 4 6 2 3 4
    11th +4 Improved Judgment, Rebuke Heathen (CR 2) 4 7 3 3 4
    12th +4 Ability Score Improvement 4 7 3 3 4
    13th +5 Dogma & Morality 5 8 3 4 5
    14th +5 Rebuke Heathen (CR 3) 5 8 3 4 5
    15th +5 Sanctified Mind 5 9 3 4 5
    16th +5 Ability Score Improvement 5 9 3 4 5
    17th +6 Dogma & Morality 5 10 4 5 6
    18th +6 Rebuke Heathen (CR 4) 5 10 4 5 6
    19th +6 Ability Score Improvement 5 11 4 5 6
    20th +6 Final Judgment 5 11 4 5 6

    Interestingly, it left open the 9th level as an empty level, so looking at it, I figured, why not move the 8th level ability score improvement to there - it's unique, but not game breaking. It smooths out the ASI progression and filled the hole. I also moved around the Dogmas, as I felt they were oddly spaced. Anyway, I hope you at least look it over...
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