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    Default By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    Or are they limited to ponies/riding dogs?

    Things seems to suggest that a small creature is free to ride a large creature without penalty. Then again, they have ponies in the book probably for a reason... just looking for a RAW response.
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    Default Re: By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    There is no restriction on being too small for your mount, like there is for being too big. It falls to the DM to add penalties for inappropriate gear (like a -4 Ride penalty for a Halfling on a Medium saddle since he can't reach the stirrups) and require checks that are normally ignored (like a Climb check to get up there in the first place, whereas a human would get it without a check). To be fair, a human that was trying to ride a Huge Dragon would also need to make a Climb check, as well as buy an appropriate exotic saddle, instead of using one he stole from a gnome dragonrider.
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    Default Re: By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    You can also fit multiple creatures on, if you can find an appropriate saddle. Rather like Haradrim on the Mumakil.
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    Default Re: By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    Alright... thanks.

    I'm aiming to play a gnome wizard who was raised in a human-only military academy, and thus simply learned to use human-sized mounts as the standard. Just was making sure there wasn't anything RAW-illegal about this.
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    Default Re: By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    Yeah, need saddles designed to be put on a large creature but used by a small creature

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    Default Re: By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    By RAW you might, but stirrups are very adjustable on most saddles. While they make saddles for children, they are not strictly necessary.
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    Default Re: By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    Huh... does RAW say that you'd need a custom-saddle to ride a horse?

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    Default Re: By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    You need custom-made saddles for exotic mounts, but that's about it as far as special mount gear goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantolin View Post
    Huh... does RAW say that you'd need a custom-saddle to ride a horse?
    No, but it also doesn't say that a halfling can't wear a orc's trousers. Small and Medium creatures need different sized everything. It is not exotic, but it is definitely purpose-built.

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    Default Re: By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    Seeing as how a medium creature can ride a Dragon I expect a small character can ride a horse. A medium character would have trouble with the riding dog though.
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    Default Re: By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clementx View Post
    No, but it also doesn't say that a halfling can't wear a orc's trousers.
    That's easy.

    Orc Pants + Belt + rolling up pant legs = Halfling pants.

    If it was in my campaign, I'd say, make a Ride check to rig the saddle/stirrup to your size, so if you even had a Ride skill you could take 20 and set it up... at least, within reason.

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    Default Re: By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    There's no need to rig anything. Buy a saddle. Say it's the right size for you and the mount. Done.
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    Default Re: By RAW, can small creatures ride horses?

    Pony saddles work on horses, and for the most part vice versa (I suppose a heavy saddle for use in combat on a war horse could be a but awkward for a pony). Any saddle should do the trick one way or the other, whether made for horse or pony, halfling or human.
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