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    Default Junkyard Wars in the Playground VII: Metamagic Feats + LA - Metamagic Reducers!

    Welcome to Junkyard Stadium! It is in this hallowed pile of miscellaneous parts that we will hold a competition of Practical Optimization with three components. The catch? Competitors may not use the third item in their builds!

    Goal: Create a build that showcases the selected ingredients while steering clear of the Forbidden Ingredient.


    This competition has two Necessary Components and one Forbidden Component. This one is themed my birthday, coming up on Saturday! As such, I've selected two ingredients that I despise and one that I really love. Please take the components that I hate and make something beautiful from them for me, while avoiding the ingredient I already know and love so as not to tarnish it for me. We've got a category of feats used by the most fearsome mages and a rule system used by the most fearsome munchkins. But please, keep the rudisplorking to a minimum and don't use anything to mitigate the costs of your metamagic feats. Without further ado, our components are...

    • Necessary: Metamagic feats!
      Note: this does not include Metapsionic feats.
    • Necessary: Level adjustment!
      Note: we're looking for a listed LA, be it negative, +0, or positive. Cohort LA and LA: --, however, are right out. We're looking to build PCs here.
    • Forbidden: Ways to reduce/replace metamagic costs!
      e.g. Divine Metamagic, Midnight Metamagic, Naenhoon Illumians, Arcane Thesis, etc.

    I know, I know, "Thou Shalt not lose caster levels." However, here you're going to have to. And don't try to get cute with using metamagic feats without paying for them.

    Contestants:

    So you wanna give this thing a shot? Awesome! The rules are as follows:
    • Creation: 32 point-buy is the presumed creation method. If you do use a different point-buy, please make your case for its necessity in your entry. Keep in mind that for using exceptionally large or small point-buys may warrant deductions in Elegance and/or Power. XP is assumed to be 190,000--just enough to hit 20th level. This is a departure from previous rounds that awarded "bonus XP" to use for crafting, LA buyoff, etc. No more!
    • Workshop: Competitors will be free to use any official 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon Magazine is disallowed, and Unearthed Arcana is allowed; but see below. Web-exclusive 3.0 or 3.5 materials by WotC are expressly allowed, but take care to verify that an updated version did not appear in print elsewhere as this may cause an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion. If you use web material, link it. Dragon Magazine Compendium is allowed, as are Oriental Adventures and the Dragonlance Campaign Setting. Alternate rule systems from UA such as gestalt and fractional saves are not allowed, as they create a different playing field.
    • Speculation: Please don't post or speculate on possible builds until after the reveal in order to avoid spoiling the surprise if a particular competitor is producing a build along those lines.
    • Disputes: Any scoring disputes should be sent to the Chair via PM. Valid disputes include RAW misreadings, arithmetic errors, things missed that are present in the entry, and inconsistently applied criteria. Invalid disputes include disagreements on matters of opinion, a judge not catching something not explicitly presented in the entry, and the like. Invalid disputes will be responded to via PM by the Chair, but valid disputes will be posted in-thread for the judge to review. When disputing, please indicate the judge the dispute is intended for and provide a quote of the disputed comment or comments. Note: the Chair may edit or paraphrase any disputes in presenting them to the judges.
    • Leadership is banned: We're creating one things, not all of the things. If your entry includes a prestige class or ACF that grants Leadership or a Leadership-like ability as a bonus feat, the feat should be ignored and is not eligible to be traded away for another feat or ACF through any means.
    • Presentation: You will need to present a write-up of your build at at least one of the following points: 5th level, 10th level, 15th, 20th, and a "sweet spot" that you feel is the high point of the build, as well as presenting a fully-fleshed out 20-level build in the table below. Please give a rundown of the build's abilities and playability throughout its life. Builds will be posted anonymously, in order to avoid the potential of bias towards a particular competitor. For this reason, please don't put your name in the build as I'm likely to miss it when reviewing the entries. Also for this reason, PLEASE do not include any material that may or may not offend any potential viewers/judges/competitors OR break forum rules. Any builds which violate forum rules WILL be withheld from posting.

      Due to concerns about standardizing entry format, I'd like everyone to try to use the following table for their entry.
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      Level Class Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Skills Feats Class Features
      1st New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      2nd New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      3rd New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      4th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      5th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      6th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      7th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      8th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      9th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      10th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      11th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      12th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      13th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      14th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      15th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      16th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      17th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      18th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      19th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities
      20th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills New Feats New Class Abilities


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      [td]1st[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      [td]2nd[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      [td]5th[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      [td]9th[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      [td]10th[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      [td]14th[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      [td]15th[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      [td]16th[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      [td]17th[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      [td]18th[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      [td]19th[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      [td]20th[/td][td]New Class Level[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]+x[/td][td]Skills[/td][td]New Feats[/td][td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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      For entries with spellcasting or other systems (Psionics, ToB, Incarnum, etc.) keep track of spells per day/spells known/PP/maneuvers/essentia separately, preferably in a nice neat list.


    Judges:

    • Scoring: Each judge is required to provide the criteria by which they are judging the builds. By "criteria," we mean a simple explanation of what the judge is looking for in each of the below categories and what kind of scoring we can expect. If a judge deems a build to be illegal, they may provide a 0 in Elegance but may not refuse to judge any build presented by the Chairman.
    • The Categories: Judging will be based on the following criteria, with each build rated from 1 (very poor) to 5 (exemplary) in each area: Originality, Power, Elegance, Use of Components.
      • Originality: Basically put, does the build stand out from the crowd? Some judges score entries for the quality of their concept & backstory as well, though not all do. Providing at least some backstory is heavily encouraged, as it helps the judges figure out who the entry is.
      • Power: Power level is up to you. Cheese is acceptable, but should be kept to a sane level unless you're showcasing a new TO build you've discovered. In the words of one of my predecessors, a little cheddar can be nice, but avoid the mature Gruyere unless you're making a cheese fondue.
      • Elegance: This category was formerly titled "Build Stability." Here, we're essentially measuring how skillfully you put your build together and how you balanced flavor with power. We're cooking here - if your dish doesn't taste good, it doesn't matter how well-presented it is. Use of flaws is an automatic loss of one point per flaw in this category. Other things that will cause lost points here are excessive multiclassing, and classes that don't fit the concept - using Cloistered Cleric in a front-line melee fighter, for example, will lose you points. Some judges have penalized dipping classes in this category. Rule adherence and legality of sources is scored under this category. Using too many sources may be an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion, but a book's relative obscurity may not. Note: for this round, the use of Level Adjustment should not receive a deduction. LA Buyoff, however, may receive deductions at each individual judge's discretion.
      • Use of Components: Was the Forbidden Component avoided? Were the Necessary Components showcased, or simply used because they were necessary? Note: some judges deduct for things that still hold the feel of the Forbidden Ingredient, even if said ingredient itself is not used (ex: using savant levels when factotum is forbidden).
    • Disputes: Any scoring disputes will be posted by the Chairman in-thread after reviewing them privately. Valid disputes include RAW misreadings, arithmetic errors, things missed that are present in the entry, and inconsistently applied criteria. Invalid disputes include disagreements on matters of opinion, a judge not catching something not explicitly presented in the entry, and the like. Invalid disputes will be responded to via PM by the Chair, but valid disputes should be responded to by each individual judge. Should a judge fail to respond to a valid dispute in a timely fashion, the Chair reserves the right to respond on behalf of the judge.


    Completion Time:
    • Contestants will have until [11:59 PM GMT on October 13th, 2014] to create their builds and PM them to the chairman, OMG PONIES.
    • Builds will then be posted simultaneously to avoid copying.
    • Judges will have until [11:59 PM GMT on October 27th, 2014] to judge the builds and submit their scores. If no judges have scored by that point, only the scores of the first judge to submit will be counted.
    • As the precedent has been set from Episode 2, should all prospective judges have posted their rulings in a neat, timely fashion and all disputes have been settled satisfactorily (to either judges, contestants, or the Chairperson), the judging period may end prematurely to give way to a new episode. No reason to keep working on a finished building and avoid moving onto the next one.


    So who wants to sign up as a contestant and who wants to sign up as a judge? Looking for as many contestants and judges as feel like playing!We will award 1st through 3rd places, as well as a shout-out for honorable mention. The honorable mention prize is given to the most daring or unexpected build that doesn't gain a medal. Contestants are invited to vote for honorable mention via PM. Everyone else can vote in-thread. Ready? Steady? Get to the junkyard and start building!

    Previous Competitions:
    Episode 1: Shadowdancer + Sneak Attack - Rogue
    Episode 2: Healing Spells + Ruby Knight Vindicator - no Cleric
    Episode 3: Dragon Type + Mystic Theurge - Kobold
    Episode 4: Book of Exalted Deeds + Undead Type - Completes Books
    Episode 5: Dread Witch + Reaping Mauler - Fighter
    Episode 6: Wonderworker + the Profession Skill - Factotum
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    I have an idea for this already. Definitely in!

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    im entering, thats it.

    a few bits, im guessing the minimum LA is 1

    the changes to the judging and building rules that you proposed, can you post them for all to see?

    and as a point. can you clarify to all that anything that attempts to reduce metamagic is against it, so anything obscure you havent mentioned does not get around this point.

    and.... LA buyoff allowed or not? please make this very clear

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    Quite the interesting combination there.

    I'll see what I can come up with.

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    got a few cute ideas off the bat ... lets set the heat to 'stew' and see if something is interesting enough to build

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    Default Re: Junkyard Wars in the Playground VII: Metamagic Feats + LA - Metamagic Reducers!

    Does this include Metapsionics, or are we only talking about feats with the explicit [Metamagic] descriptor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideswipe View Post
    im entering, thats it.

    a few bits, im guessing the minimum LA is 1

    the changes to the judging and building rules that you proposed, can you post them for all to see?

    and as a point. can you clarify to all that anything that attempts to reduce metamagic is against it, so anything obscure you havent mentioned does not get around this point.

    and.... LA buyoff allowed or not? please make this very clear
    The information you seek should be in our new & improved opening post. As far as LA, there is no stated minimum as there are some things that provide LA +0 (or even negative LA). You've simply got to use something with a listed level adjustment. That means no using a human and saying "yep, LA +0!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Muggins View Post
    Does this include Metapsionics, or are we only talking about feats with the explicit [Metamagic] descriptor?
    As it says on the tin, my friend. You're free to use metapsionics as well, but they would not fulfill the necessary component. Otherwise, Metapower would be at once eligible for Necessary and Forbidden Component status, causing heads to asplode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaz View Post
    Ponies, the Kim Karsdashian of GITP.
    This is what happens when they let me DM:
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    A Time to Die: Alpha IC / Bravo IC / OOC

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMG PONIES View Post
    The information you seek should be in our new & improved opening post. As far as LA, there is no stated minimum as there are some things that provide LA +0 (or even negative LA). You've simply got to use something with a listed level adjustment. That means no using a human and saying "yep, LA +0!"
    "LA -" doesn't count as a listed level adjustment, though, right? That would lead to nothing but shenanigans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sakuuya View Post
    "LA -" doesn't count as a listed level adjustment, though, right? That would lead to nothing but shenanigans.
    LA -- is the opposite of a listed level adjustment.

    Question: how does the LA requirement interact with the LA buyoff cushion we've been using? Or are we not doing that this round?

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    Chair Ponies (Would that be Saddle instead?),

    Was the replacement of Build Stability with Elegance a planned departure from past rounds?
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    You know, I might have a crack at this. The problem is I can't decide which of my many initial builds to go with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhamBamSam View Post
    LA -- is the opposite of a listed level adjustment.

    Question: how does the LA requirement interact with the LA buyoff cushion we've been using? Or are we not doing that this round?
    you now only get enough XP to reach level 20, 190,000 so no LA buyoff

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    I have two ideas for this one, but so far I've only come up with a way for one of them to connect the two ingredients together.

    Edit: Wait! I got it! Okay, this should be great. Yeah, this is a neat set of ingredients. It's something I'd never think of playing in a real game, but it's interesting to brew with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sakuuya View Post
    "LA -" doesn't count as a listed level adjustment, though, right? That would lead to nothing but shenanigans.
    Quote Originally Posted by WhamBamSam View Post
    LA -- is the opposite of a listed level adjustment.
    Ma'am, I am going to answer your question (I am!) but it's already been answered correctly by WhamBamSam (and I don't want to create spam). On a less rhyming note, that information has been added to the OP. You see?

    Question: how does the LA requirement interact with the LA buyoff cushion we've been using? Or are we not doing that this round?[/QUOTE]

    Quote Originally Posted by sideswipe View Post
    you now only get enough XP to reach level 20, 190,000 so no LA buyoff
    Indeed. I asked at the end of last round, and one person said it would be okay to go in my intended direction so I took that as majority opinion--100% of respondents answered favorably to my proposal. The original post already stated this, so I haven't made any alterations.

    Quote Originally Posted by dextercorvia View Post
    Chair Ponies (Would that be Saddle instead?),

    Was the replacement of Build Stability with Elegance a planned departure from past rounds?
    Yes, it definitely was. I never understood the difference in title for what was essentially the same category. I've added an explanatory note to the OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troacctid View Post
    Edit: Wait! I got it! Okay, this should be great. Yeah, this is a neat set of ingredients. It's something I'd never think of playing in a real game, but it's interesting to brew with.
    That was the idea; I'm glad someone else's mind is as crazy as mine. You hear the music too, right?
    Unrelated to anything, is your avatar a "cow pi?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaz View Post
    Ponies, the Kim Karsdashian of GITP.
    This is what happens when they let me DM:
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    A Time to Die: Alpha IC / Bravo IC / OOC

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    What's the ruling on cohort LA? Unicorn, blink dog, et al.

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    Unrelated to anything, is your avatar a "cow pi?"
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    Can a character have the ability to apply metamagic effects to spells without increasing level but not use it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff the Green View Post
    Can a character have the ability to apply metamagic effects to spells without increasing level but not use it?
    I would guess no. If you're an Incanatrix or Anima Mage or whatever, and you have that ability, you're eventually going to use it. I mean, the judges could just treat it like it isn't there, but ehhh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troacctid View Post
    What's the ruling on cohort LA? Unicorn, blink dog, et al.
    Again, we're building PCs. Cohort ony LA should not be used. I'll update the OP.

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    Can a character have the ability to apply metamagic effects to spells without increasing level but not use it?
    I'm leaving that one to each individual judge, but I'd expect some furrowed brows at the least.
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    Is anyone currently planning to judge? I feel like this round is particularly open-ended, so it'd be nice to have people who could say "Yeah, I'd penalize you for taking Anima Mage even if you said you weren't gonna use vestige metamagic" or whatever.

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    Since there's no way I'll be able to find the time to create a build I shall be judging!

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    I think I'm going to bow out of this one from both sides. I'm committed to judging for Kuulv's last blast, and I don't have any inspiration on this one.
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    My immediate idea is a balls-to-the-wall risk. How does that usually go over with judges? Maybe I'll actually finish this time, just to see how it's received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazyan View Post
    My immediate idea is a balls-to-the-wall risk. How does that usually go over with judges? Maybe I'll actually finish this time, just to see how it's received.
    I'm not quite sure what you mean by "balls to the wall risk", but from what I've seen, most judges like inovative ideas but dislike cheese. Take from that what you will.

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    I should be able to get my idea entered.

    Let's see how the Junkyard likes it.

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    my main issue with my idea is that i'm slightly uncertain if it fits one part enough, and similarily uncertain if the other part aren't to heavy on the gorgonzola, so i'm not sure i'm going to submit just yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sian View Post
    my main issue with my idea is that i'm slightly uncertain if it fits one part enough, and similarily uncertain if the other part aren't to heavy on the gorgonzola, so i'm not sure i'm going to submit just yet
    Remember you can submit 2 builds. Or is that not a thing anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyfuel View Post
    Remember you can submit 2 builds. Or is that not a thing anymore?
    .... I know, but that doesn't have anything to do with my issues. My 1! build idea have two seperate problems, one of them being that half the dish might not fit well enough, while the other part might be to cheesy

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    im getting no inspiration..... i thought i had some and then hit a wall.

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    Do the judges post their criteria here? There are a few different ways I could go with my idea, and that might help me decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranagrande View Post
    Do the judges post their criteria here? There are a few different ways I could go with my idea, and that might help me decide.
    Judges' criteria are usually posted alongside the Reveal. The idea is to post a build you're proud of, rather than a build that caters to their criteria.
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