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    ... Okay. What just happened?

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    A diplomacy check I guess?

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    Awesome! I'm thinking that whatever Haley used to haggle will be important or at least later, seeing as we didn't get to see it. Sort of like Lauren's barter with Tarquin.


    (also, character hands are discolored? all except Roy's and "Durkon's")

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    Gotta love Haley. Imagine if Elan had another philter phial beverage potion of glibness--the maintenance crew would be paying to do the repairs and they'd be done already!
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    I love it!
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    Darn it Haley, keep warping reality like that and soon the Snarl will be redundant.
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    Wow. Roy is right, magic would not even be enough to achieve such a result.

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    let us hope she never uses her skills for evil

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    Color issue with the hands fixed. I don't know why that keeps happening, but I really don't know why I keep forgetting to check for it.
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    Hehe, I have no idea what Haley did either, but this is probably some reference to insanely buffed social skills that produce results in the game that don't make any sense.

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    Woo Hoo! New book out soon! My wife refuses to read the online strips, but loves the books. Now she can catch up! Thanks, Giant!

    Edit: And an 2015 wall calendar! Even better!
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    Yeah, looks like Elan's and Haley's hands (and the buffet coupons) didn't have a fill color, but Rich fixed THAT quickly!

    Thank you, Rich, for the bounty of announcements today. Christmas coming early indeed.

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    Andi's hands are see-through? Or was this just an art mistake?

    EDIT-- I'm late to the party. My bad.
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    Hel's plans seem to be both gate-related and time-sensitive, based on the vampire's reaction. Of course the urgency probably just has to do with Xykon getting there first. (Or perhaps the Snarl beginning to break free?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindStruck View Post
    Hehe, I have no idea what Haley did either, but this is probably some reference to insanely buffed social skills that produce results in the game that don't make any sense.
    Yeah, I'm thinking now it was probably this. Also, could Haley have threatened the mechanic? I can't recall if she had to resort to threats of bodily harm before or not.

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    Wow, Haley keeps impressing by how higher and higher her diplomatic skills can keep going. One day she will warp the universe using only her words.
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    Fear the diplomancers mortals, fear them!

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    Gotta love Haley

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    And this is why we let the one with the highest diplomacy skill do the bartering. Now, who will get the other two brunch tickets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrillhouse View Post
    Hel's plans seem to be both gate-related and time-sensitive, based on the vampire's reaction. Of course the urgency probably just has to do with Xykon getting there first. (Or perhaps the Snarl beginning to break free?)
    Good point, HPoH does seem distressed at the thought of waiting a week. So something time sensitive at the gate makes sense.

    Of course airwalk would solve that, unless there was a storm or something...

    I can see two possibilities for Haley's action:
    1) Insane social skills. But that works better with spells to help and there's no real reason for her to hide it and EXCEPT when under glibness we've never seen any evidence of Haley having insane social skills. (Good yes, she has that, but this needs a DC 50 check or so to do with diplomacy.)
    2) She paid for the job, including the extra rush, out of pocket with the money she's been collecting all comic.
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    Go, Haley go!

    I really enjoyed this strip. Feels like we're getting back on track.

    Plus, I've extremely cheerful due to the new book announcement. Still, I think I liked the strip on its own merits.
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    *Cough Cough* sexual favours *Cough*

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    I wonder what that conversation looked like? The potion coupons in particular just mean Haley can get even more bonuses to future bluff checks, and an increase to the yellow-footed rock wallaby population. It's like digging your own grave, really.

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    Ah, the wonders of max Diplomacy ranks.
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    So the mechanic was padding the estimate ever-so-slightly and Haley called the bluff.

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    Uh oh, I bet waffles are gonna be a pain to draw

    Good on Haley, though.

    EDIT: oh, and nice preview of O-Chul's and Lien's redesigns in the calendar advert.
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    I see The Giant's Diplomacy Fix is not a house rule in this universe. You'd think based on its effectiveness, Haley could have shown it off a few more times. Guess she didn't want it to get overexposed.

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    What was that, bluff? Sense motive? Diplomacy? Regardless, definitely funny. And I wonder what part of Hel's plan is so time sensitive.

    Also, I definitely enjoyed the friendship reminder between Haley and Bandana here.

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    Aww, I love Haley's "big sis" vibe. See--strip #959 did have a lasting effect on the story!

    I don't think she threatened the mechanic--if you look closely on the panel through the door, you can see that she's still got her bow on her back. I feel like she might be more willing to brandish her weapon if things could be possibly-violent. It'd likely give a circumstance bonus to an intimidate check, in any case.

    I think it was just a great roll on a highly-stacked diplomacy score. Considering what she did to the guards with a potion of glibness, it's not that surprising that she can negotiate a little bit better than most.
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