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    What might a drow mother sing to her baby to lull him/her to sleep?

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    Hush little drowling, please don't cry;
    I'm going to sing you a lullaby.

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    If the baby can't figure out this sleep thing, maybe its time to make a new one and throw the old one onto the ol' altar. What do you keep the male drow around for anyway? Foot rubs?

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    Yeah, I can't imagine an overwhelmingly CE society being real big on childcare.
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    ...Wait a minute, this is a trick question! Why would a mother waste time on child rearing? Undead or demonic familiars do the job just fine!

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    "Shut up, ya little brat!"

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    I can picture the mother manipulating the child from birth; something like Mordreds Lullaby would be appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Oni View Post
    Yeah, I can't imagine an overwhelmingly CE society being real big on childcare.
    Are you kidding? Drow society is a bunch of street gangs. Street gangs thrive on "family first", up to and including the pathos of an obviously idiot family member ruining it for everyone until he is tragically offed, or lasting blood feuds because you may not have liked aunt Wilma, but damned if she wasn't kin and ain't no one shootin' my kin but me!

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    I can picture the mother manipulating the child from birth; something like Mordreds Lullaby would be appropriate.
    Beat me to it.

    There's also, if you'll forgive the pony, the song for the children of the night animatic.

    "Hush now dear children, I'll show you the way
    Through all the pain and the sorrow
    Come now dear children, the world is this way
    Murder and beauty and pas~sion"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Tiefling View Post
    ...Wait a minute, this is a trick question! Why would a mother waste time on child rearing? Undead or demonic familiars do the job just fine!
    No, it's a trick question cause elves don't sleep.

    So really all you need to do is put them in a trance, so just dangle a gold watch in front of them and say "You are getting sleeeeeepy." - repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFamilarRaven View Post
    No, it's a trick question cause elves don't sleep.
    That is correct.


    If they sleep in your campaign though an appropriate lullaby might be as simple as:

    SMACK!
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    Why do you think they developed such an effective sleep poison?
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    Why do you think they developed such an effective sleep poison?
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    Shut up baby or you might die
    Mother'll give you a reason to cry
    If moaning doesn't stop
    Goblins will use your corpse for their slop
    When demons harvest your bones from the ditch
    You'll be apart of the next dracolich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFamilarRaven View Post
    No, it's a trick question cause elves don't sleep.

    So really all you need to do is put them in a trance, so just dangle a gold watch in front of them and say "You are getting sleeeeeepy." - repeat.
    It may have changed in later editions, but drow were called out as specifically too unfocused to benefit from elven meditation. They specifically did sleep – and even if they were able to meditate that is a learned behavior and not inherent. Drow infants would indeed sleep.

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    In the novels, it seems to be a mixture. Some very old drow do enter "reverie" but most younger ones sleep. Perhaps the trick of entering reverie is in the process of being forgotten?

    EDIT: from the FR wiki:

    http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Drow

    Like all elves, drow require no sleep but instead enter a meditative trance throughout which they retain full awareness of their surroundings. This state is half-again more efficient than the way in which most races gain rest. Recently it was shown that more and more drow are actually sleeping because they can not find the peace in themselves to enter reverie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    In the novels, it seems to be a mixture. Some very old drow do enter "reverie" but most younger ones sleep. Perhaps the trick of entering reverie is in the process of being forgotten?

    EDIT: from the FR wiki:

    http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Drow
    But when is that wiki? Does it include the homogenization from 4e? You'll find similar issues with dark sun; difficult to find a wiki that doesn't take all lore period together.

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    If Lawful Evil can best be summed up with WWTLD, or What Would Tywin Lannister, I'd say when thinking about drow society you should remember WWCLD or WWPBD. In other words What Would Cersi Lannister Do or What Would Petyr Baelish Do. Then think of what sort of lullabies the drow have.
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    Safe money's on this (warning, carpet F-bombing).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post
    Are you kidding? Drow society is a bunch of street gangs. Street gangs thrive on "family first", up to and including the pathos of an obviously idiot family member ruining it for everyone until he is tragically offed, or lasting blood feuds because you may not have liked aunt Wilma, but damned if she wasn't kin and ain't no one shootin' my kin but me!
    I figured it was more Italian mafia rather than street gang (maybe feuding families). But the point is still there and quite valid.
    Someone also beat me to the “elves don’t sleep” trick question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ettina View Post
    What might a drow mother sing to her baby to lull him/her to sleep?
    They torture and berate the baby until it enters the elf sleep-trance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheThan View Post
    I figured it was more Italian mafia rather than street gang (maybe feuding families). But the point is still there and quite valid.
    Someone also beat me to the “elves don’t sleep” trick question.
    That's fair. The only real difference is scope and professionalism, but comparing drow society to Italian renaissance family feuds like the whole Romeo Juliet thing is probably apt.

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    But when is that wiki? Does it include the homogenization from 4e? You'll find similar issues with dark sun; difficult to find a wiki that doesn't take all lore period together.
    It does cite the 4e PHB as the source- but I recall the same point being made in the 3e-era Starlight & Shadows trilogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    It does cite the 4e PHB as the source- but I recall the same point being made in the 3e-era Starlight & Shadows trilogy.
    Alright. I think 3e is when they started to pull together the whole system, so that makes sense.

    I can't check, but I believe elven reverie first popped up in the 2e book of elves, which was also the source for drow not reverie-Ing. I'm not 100% though, I don't know where my 2e books are to check. Alas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post
    I can't check, but I believe elven reverie first popped up in the 2e book of elves, which was also the source for drow not reverie-Ing. I'm not 100% though, I don't know where my 2e books are to check. Alas.
    Well, I can, so why don't I? CBoE p. 34 details the reverie, but also states that elves can in fact sleep if they so choose. There is no mention of drow in the reverie section, and no mention of reverie under drow (which aren't a big theme of the book). This is, of course, at the time of 90% resistance to charm and sleep, so sleep is at least possible for elves, however rare. Whether this is the first mention is of course a little harder to say.
    There's no mention of it under elves in the 2nd ed. PHB (or the first edition, but that has virtually no fluff in the race descriptions). The Player's Option: Skills & Powers include the first 4-hour rest for elves mentioned as racial ability, which they can purchase for 5 CPs; but it is specifically mentioned as sleep, and the ability is called Less Sleep.
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    My daughter loves this one and it could fit the drow theme:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipHYg_FNJ5s

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    Quote Originally Posted by hymer View Post
    Well, I can, so why don't I? CBoE p. 34 details the reverie, but also states that elves can in fact sleep if they so choose. There is no mention of drow in the reverie section, and no mention of reverie under drow (which aren't a big theme of the book). This is, of course, at the time of 90% resistance to charm and sleep, so sleep is at least possible for elves, however rare. Whether this is the first mention is of course a little harder to say.
    There's no mention of it under elves in the 2nd ed. PHB (or the first edition, but that has virtually no fluff in the race descriptions). The Player's Option: Skills & Powers include the first 4-hour rest for elves mentioned as racial ability, which they can purchase for 5 CPs; but it is specifically mentioned as sleep, and the ability is called Less Sleep.
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    I forgot they had the charm/sleep resistance, and I think book of elves is when they started saying that resistance was because of the reverie. So there's not much leg to stand on except a specific call out of drow not doing that thing somewhere, which is about as useful a citation as "the guy said the thing, once."

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    I figured it was more Italian mafia rather than street gang (maybe feuding families). But the point is still there and quite valid.
    Someone also beat me to the “elves don’t sleep” trick question.
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    Simple. A single hard club to the back of the child's head ought to be enough to knock it thoroughly unconscince.

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    Drow mothers don't do that sort of thing, it's a waste of their time. Nurses handle that. I would imagine a lullaby like this one would fit nicely.

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    In a society full of random, chaotic violence, drow mothers (or nurses) would probably find lullabies about security fairly comforting.
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