3.5 Prestige/ 4e 11+ whatever its called to Subclasses Discussion

[BRKNdevil]

So I'm bored again, but this time I'd like to post something to discuss Homebrew instead.

In this thread, post Links to Subclasses that are your take on a subclass transformation of Prestige Classes or whatever those 11+ levels in 4e are called.

This means you don't discuss these Linked Classes on this thread.

For Example, Here on this thread i have subclasses for 3.5's Bear Warrior, Drunken Master, and Bloodmage

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...rew-subclasses

Alternatively you can post a Prestige Class or those 11+ Levels Name that you think you wouldn't be able to turn into a Subclass due to balance issues, and Explain why you think so.

For instance, Shou Disciple from Forbidden Realms Unapproachable East for 3.5/3.0 since it received Conversion supplement.
I don't think it could be converted to a Fighter or a Monk Subclass Since its main thing is to grant you the ability to flurry with any weapon.

[BRKNdevil]

So sad, nobody has things they want to promote from other forums or prestige classes that you don't think are adaptable?

[Rfkannen]

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...3#post18291063 Ill try to do more.

If I was to say one that can't be converted, I would say planar shepard. Because no matter what you do it will be op.In fact I dare someone to try this one.

[BRKNdevil]

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...3#post18291063 Ill try to do more.

If I was to say one that can't be converted, I would say planar shepard. Because no matter what you do it will be op.In fact I dare someone to try this one.

A double dog dare?
Anyways I found this on the WotC forums, http://community.wizards.com/forum/p...hreads/4132921
That was a repository apparently

[BRKNdevil]

Here i found some Tome of Battle Homebrew from other forums and one from here
http://community.wizards.com/forum/d...hreads/3893286
http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthr...w-The-Warblade
http://community.wizards.com/forum/d...hreads/4058286
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...Adept-Homebrew

All of them have balance or structure issues, varying from being to high or to low and thus i think it could use more people's input.

[BRKNdevil]

I found a variety of things here.
http://www.enworld.org/forum/content...ntent-Database
including but not limited to a bunch of domains such as the dragon domain and such.

I'm honestly starting to feel like the Kensai from Complete Warrior (3.5) is ending up as an archetype that can't be successfully reproduced in 5e due to the change in magic item mechanics. It ends up being that the effects of the kensai's abilities are either far divergent from the source material or vastly overpowered or underpowered.

[Amnoriath]

I found a variety of things here.
http://www.enworld.org/forum/content...ntent-Database
including but not limited to a bunch of domains such as the dragon domain and such.

I'm honestly starting to feel like the Kensai from Complete Warrior (3.5) is ending up as an archetype that can't be successfully reproduced in 5e due to the change in magic item mechanics. It ends up being that the effects of the kensai's abilities are either far divergent from the source material or vastly overpowered or underpowered.

1. Some interesting stuff. In a way I think their community might have a better proclivity to theme.
2. Well, to be fair the 3.5 Kensai was an odd ball in and of itself. It was a PrC that did far better as an addition in going against its original theme. I used it to hilarious effect by making a master disarmer with the Bloodstorm Blade with a glamoured bastard sword. It only had moderate BAB and only a good will save while having a couple concentration abilities to make the differences. Its skills were also all mental ones. Then it went off in a weird direction of giving away its base scores to increase others and then some morale bonuses with an ill explained nobility like status. It had a cool idea and a few good class mechanics that lended very well to certain builds but then it went off in a tangent. In order to make a good Kensai for 5e they are going to have to prioritize the few that worked on something that already has a fair amount of physical tricks(monk) making it more focused on damage numbers and style prowess. The other way to do it is find a way to make a custom artifact(as this is what the direction of magical weapons are going) and somehow gain some sort of presence like utility abilities on something that is otherwise straight up(fighter).