AMEN V: Rise of the Maggots

[Lord Magtok]

((Lawful Neutral then? Odd. I don't think anyone would have characterized you as Lawful.))
But who gave you that power? From where do you get the authority to punish people according to what you perceive as justice? Mankind does not have the authority to declare "right" or "wrong"- this authority comes only from on high. Mankind can only declare actions to be immediately harmful or beneficial, and this is where the mandate of human laws and governments come in. Whenever humans have tried to judge right and wrong for themselves, only pain and suffering have followed.

So what makes elves or cows, or goblins, or whatever you are better judges than us humans? And authority from on high? You mean those precious Good gods that mutilated me, or the ones that sent their divine warriors to overtax and crush the weak under the cover of doing what is right?

[Rex Idiotarum]

((Not Lawful Neutral, Chaotic Evil, he is willing to kill people to further his own goals, ends-justifies the means types are always evil, and that's only part of his evilness, he's also a huge non-conformist, and doesn't even adhere to most of his own laws))

That's why I don't judge, I only kill. By borrowing the souls of those I kill, I can piece them back together, complete, and satisfied.

[Deathcow]

So what makes elves or cows, or goblins, or whatever you are better judges than us humans? And authority from on high? You mean those precious Good gods that mutilated me, or the ones that sent their divine warriors to overtax and crush the weak under the cover of doing what is right?

I think we come from alternate universes. Where I come from, all the gods are truly Good, unlike the ones you seem to be talking about. Oh, and when I said "mankind," I was using it the word as a generic term for everyone with a conscious, sentient mind. My mistake.

[Saurous]

I think we come from alternate universes. Where I come from, all the gods are truly Good, unlike the ones you seem to be talking about. Oh, and when I said "mankind," I was using it the word as a generic term for everyone with a conscious, sentient mind. My mistake.

The gods are not all Good. If there is Good in the universe, there is Evil. If there is Evil, then Evil should have it's own gods. Everything does not revolve around the do-gooders. There is always Evil for Good, as there is always Law for Chaos. All of the gods are not Good. Sure, there are of course purely Good gods, but there must be Evil gods to balance that out. The universe is practically built on balance.

[Lord Magtok]

The gods are not all Good. If there is Good in the universe, there is Evil. If there is Evil, then Evil should have it's own gods. Everything does not revolve around the do-gooders. There is always Evil for Good, as there is always Law for Chaos. All of the gods are not Good. Sure, there are of course purely Good gods, but there must be Evil gods to balance that out. The universe is practically built on balance.

No, not built on balance. If it were built on balance, it would've tipped too far to one side long ago, and we'd all be dead or something.

[Saurous]

No, it hasn't. Have you ever met a person who is purely, purely, right to their very core Evil or Good? And no saying that you are the "Darkest evil of the universe" or anything. There is always light in someone's soul. The darker spectrum of alignment is always there to counter the other, and vice-versa. If one were to destroy good, it would destroy evil because evil would have nothing to exist for, but if good destroyed evil, then good would have nothing to exist for.

I'm probably just repeating what everyone has said the past...hour, but I have to throw my hat into the ring.

*And then, right before everyone's eyes, Saurous flickered to True Neutral, and then back to Neutral Evil*

...okay, my rant is over.


.......for now.

[Vespe Ratavo]

*Vespe sneakily sneaks around*

[PirateMonk]

//Pirate Monk starts bleeding profusely from the face, and a loud *Twack* thunders into the distance, echoing along the way.//
I like this one, no twister.

Fine. I don't have time for this. My clones seem to be turning CG left and right.

[Lord Magtok]

*Vespe sneakily sneaks around*

Hey, no sneaking allowed! *Smacks.*

Have you ever met a person who is purely, purely, right to their very core Evil or Good? And no saying that you are the "Darkest evil of the universe" or anything. There is always light in someone's soul. The darker spectrum of alignment is always there to counter the other, and vice-versa. If one were to destroy good, it would destroy evil because evil would have nothing to exist for, but if good destroyed evil, then good would have nothing to exist for.

Saurous, if evil is merely relative, then isn't it possible I could be "evil to the core?"
And AMEN existed before EVIL, so therefore, evil can exist without good.

[Vespe Ratavo]

Vespe falls out of the shadows. He appears to be in full Spartan garb. Where am I?

[Saurous]

But it's not only about AMEN and EVIL. We aren't the only evil organization (If that's even what we still are at this point) out there.

[Vespe Ratavo]

Vespe gets stabbed in the face. Ow. Vespe hurls a glaive-glaive-glaive-guisarme-glaive at Fus.Weapon 1337.

[Rex Idiotarum]

[roll0]
Lety's see what that comes up with

[Fus.Weapon 1337]

No, I'm rolling. Not you.

(d%)[31]

"Character's gender changes". Huh.


Wait, WHAT?

[Vespe Ratavo]

Vespe hands Rex a belt of gender changing. You do the honors.

[Rex Idiotarum]

No, I'm rolling. Not you.

[roll0]

"Character's gender changes". Huh.


Wait, WHAT?

Haha, that sucks.

[Lord Fullbladder, Master of Goblins]

"You are in the shade, O Spartan One. Have a cookie." Fullbladder hands Vespe a cookie. It is a good, wholesome cookie of oatmeal and toffee that has been baked to slightly overdoneness, to accent taste and colouration. It was forged with love, as cookies baked by people who love baking cookies often are. But it contains TWICE as much love as Castaras's pies, without making people turn into lovey-doveys like those pies do.

[Vespe Ratavo]

Vespe takes the cookie. Mm...cookie. Now, if I could just remember why I was here.... are there any Persians here?

[Fus.Weapon 1337]

I think we have a Persian cat somewhere, if that's what you mean.

Aww, crap. Black text again.

[Vespe Ratavo]

Vespe pulls out his blade and goes hunting for the cat.

[Mr. Moon]

*enters with popcorn* Ohh, moral debat. C'n I watch?

[Deathcow]

Meh, fine by me.

[Saurous]

*enters with popcorn* Ohh, moral debat. C'n I watch?

I be thinkin' that it ended about... 12 posts ago. Fus and Vespe just stole the topic when Vespe broke in dressed as a spartan. And then Fus found something that changes his gender.

So, yeah, nothing new. But you missed the debate.

[Vespe Ratavo]

Vespe comes back. I found the cat! He holds up a cat. Now, are you an Immortal or a foot soldier?

The cat overpowers Vespe and knocks him to the ground and reduces him to 1 hp. The cat walks away.

[Mr. Moon]

Awww... but moral debates are fun. :P

Edit: You deserved it, Vespe.

[Saurous]

Awww... but moral debates are fun. :P

Indeed, they are. 'Specially because I get to yell at Magtok.

*Saurous looks back in forth, and then kicks Vespe*

[Vespe Ratavo]

Ow....must...edit...character sheet... Vespe pulls out his character sheet and gives himself 20 levels in Cleric.

Cure Horrible Cat Induced Wounds! He stands up.

[Mr. Moon]

...

Vespe, that's cheating. :P

[Fus.Weapon 1337]

*grabs character sheet*

Aha, I knew it!

4 levels in Red Mage!

[Saurous]

Ow....must...edit...character sheet... Vespe pulls out his character sheet and gives himself 20 levels in Cleric.

Cure Horrible Cat Induced Wounds! He stands up.

What's the point of having the stuffing beaten out of you by a cat when you only stand up and change your character sheet.

Freaking Red Mage wannabe...