Peebles' Perfectly Pointless Popular Prattle - Random Banter #211

[Peebles]

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From the end of the last thread:

- Sad music can give you the feels
- People were wondering what the heck Amiibo's were actually for
- Teddy is writing a comic
- Pokemon, Yu-gi-oh, Magic and Netrunner all work better when you have someone to play with

Let the banter commence!

[Amidus Drexel]

New thread, eh?

\makes sleepy efforts at dancing

Stop apologizing, it's fine. (Just don't forget to add the previous RB to the spoiler of previous RBs), but no, you had to go get it while I was typing. Clever girl.

I am gonna crash so hard about thirty minutes ago and then stay up and do calculus and then mix up my tenses here whilst writing run-on sentences to annoy you grammar pedants.

Were I less tired, I might be slightly ashamed to note that there are a few problems where I've answered with an empty set ∅ and "too lazy". Were I not too lazy, I would add something about the time to those responses, but eh. "∅ too lazy"

Quotes from the previous thread are pending and may or may not get posted tomorrow/at all.

[Skeppio]

To answer the Amiibo question, they're figurines of Nintendo characters that can be touched on the Wii U gamepad and I think the 3DS or New 3DS to unlock bonus stuff in some games.
A set is currently being completed bit by bit of the roster of the latest Super Smash Bros game, those figurines can store data that creates an AI character who gets better the more it battles you. And there's also an upcoming set for the playable characters of Mario Party 10, and the ones compatible with it can store some data that I don't know the specifics of. In the case of double-ups, like the Smash Bros Mario Amiibo and the Mario Party Mario Amiibo, they have the same functions and are compatible with both games. Basically, they have the same chip, but a different plastic figure on the base.
Problem is, some are hard to come by and scalpers are rampant with Amiibos. So anyone who doesn't basically camp out in front of stores is out of luck. Unless they want to pay triple the retail price for each figure (ones like Rosalina, Wii Fit Trainer, Mega Man and Villager are ludicrously expensive on places like Amazon and Ebay).

[Peebles]

Stop apologizing, it's fine. (Just don't forget to add the previous RB to the spoiler of previous RBs), but no, you had to go get it while I was typing. Clever girl.

I got a flashback to Bob Peck in Jurassic Park then. Clever girl....whoomph, gets eaten by dinosaur. We Velociraptors hunt in packs.

I find it best to apologise for things in advance, because when someone calls me out on stuff I'm too stubborn to admit it.

I am gonna crash so hard about thirty minutes ago and then stay up and do calculus and then mix up my tenses here whilst writing run-on sentences to annoy you grammar pedants.

Is exhausted calculus a good idea? If you get to the point where the square root of a rhino equals cheese, you may want to take a long rest, in D&D 5th parlance.

Problem is, some are hard to come by and scalpers are rampant with Amiibos. So anyone who doesn't basically camp out in front of stores is out of luck. Unless they want to pay triple the retail price for each figure (ones like Rosalina, Wii Fit Trainer, Mega Man and Villager are ludicrously expensive on places like Amazon and Ebay).

Yeah, the scalpers have really been out in force on Amiibos. Nintendo creating artificial scarcity with limited supply hasn't helped either. I can't help but feel that by buying one just for aesthetics I'm denying someone who would make full use of it.

[Skeppio]

Yeah, the scalpers have really been out in force on Amiibos. Nintendo creating artificial scarcity with limited supply hasn't helped either. I can't help but feel that by buying one just for aesthetics I'm denying someone who would make full use of it.

That's an idiotic conspiracy theory. You underestimate scalpers and people like the guy who bought boxes of Rosalinas, Wii Fit Trainers, etc, solely to spite fans.

[Peebles]

Just calling it as I see it. Maybe artificial scarcity is too strong a term, but I do think that, given how popular the things were clearly going to be, they could have made a few more.

*mutters about conspiracies*
*clamps tinfoil hat to head to thwart alien mind control*

[enderlord99]

I'm reminded of Adam Savage saying "everything is fine... I feel completely normal now" in a monotone voice immediately before getting his blood drawn, all on camera. They were testing the myth that people who donate blood are implanted with mind-control microchips by the government. Or something like that, I don't really remember.

[Skeppio]

Just calling it as I see it. Maybe artificial scarcity is too strong a term, but I do think that, given how popular the things were clearly going to be, they could have made a few more.

*mutters about conspiracies*
*clamps tinfoil hat to head to thwart alien mind control*

I don't think Nintendo could get their hands on enough plastic to fully meet the demands. I heavily doubt there's any deliberate scarcity, the things just sell out that damn fast.

[Mx.Silver]

Just calling it as I see it. Maybe artificial scarcity is too strong a term,

Eh, not particularly. It's technically accurate.

I don't think Nintendo could get their hands on enough plastic to fully meet the demands. I heavily doubt there's any deliberate scarcity, the things just sell out that damn fast.

Small production runs are pretty much standard practice when it comes to 'collectables'. For anyone old enough to remember beanie babies, the rarer ones of those were not rare because they were harder to produce. Hell, deliberately creating rarity is a good chunk of Magic: The Gathering's standard operating procedure.

Also, the fact that they're producing new lines does seem to indicate that this prbably isn't due to a lack of plastic on Nintendo*'s part. Dedicated molds and production equipment possibly; but not plastic.


*a company which has made most of its livelihood selling things made of plastic.

[Peebles]

Didn't Nintendo start out as trading card company, way back when? Thought I heard that somewhere.

It does make good sense to create a 'sought after' vibe for collectibles, as you say, that's why some old magic cards are worth five figures now. If you're mad enough to spend that kind of money on a little slip of cardboard, anyway.

Thing is, are they going for the collectible approach, or are they going for a Skylanders copy where people actually care about the characters? Trying to go for both just gets gamers annoyed that they can't get the new character or game mode that they want because the 'key' isn't available.

[factotum]

Didn't Nintendo start out as trading card company, way back when?

Trading cards didn't really exist in 1889 when Nintendo was founded--it was playing cards they made their money from for the first 70-odd years of their existence.

[Mx.Silver]

Thing is, are they going for the collectible approach, or are they going for a Skylanders copy where people actually care about the characters? Trying to go for both just gets gamers annoyed that they can't get the new character or game mode that they want because the 'key' isn't available.

I would imagine it's 'whatever makes cash'. Gamers being annoyed about something probably isn't much of a factor, since a: they're always annoyed about something; and b: said annoyance seldom if ever translates into a significant financial hit for a larger company.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

To answer the Amiibo question, they're figurines of Nintendo characters that can be touched on the Wii U gamepad and I think the 3DS or New 3DS to unlock bonus stuff in some games.
A set is currently being completed bit by bit of the roster of the latest Super Smash Bros game, those figurines can store data that creates an AI character who gets better the more it battles you. And there's also an upcoming set for the playable characters of Mario Party 10, and the ones compatible with it can store some data that I don't know the specifics of. In the case of double-ups, like the Smash Bros Mario Amiibo and the Mario Party Mario Amiibo, they have the same functions and are compatible with both games. Basically, they have the same chip, but a different plastic figure on the base.
Problem is, some are hard to come by and scalpers are rampant with Amiibos. So anyone who doesn't basically camp out in front of stores is out of luck. Unless they want to pay triple the retail price for each figure (ones like Rosalina, Wii Fit Trainer, Mega Man and Villager are ludicrously expensive on places like Amazon and Ebay).

Don't forget that they don't work for both games at once. If you use it on say mario party 10, the minute you use it on super smash, it deletes the data of the other, so that AI would get reset. In otherwords, have 2 if you'll use it for 2 games.

That's an idiotic conspiracy theory. You underestimate scalpers and people like the guy who bought boxes of Rosalinas, Wii Fit Trainers, etc, solely to spite fans.

Just calling it as I see it. Maybe artificial scarcity is too strong a term, but I do think that, given how popular the things were clearly going to be, they could have made a few more.

*mutters about conspiracies*
*clamps tinfoil hat to head to thwart alien mind control*

I don't think Nintendo could get their hands on enough plastic to fully meet the demands. I heavily doubt there's any deliberate scarcity, the things just sell out that damn fast.

I'm fairly certain that's what they did with the original Wii - they only sent 4 per shipment per week, so it was always difficult to get a wii, for like the first year. I know, I tried. Every week. For about 5 months before I finally got one.

[Solse]

Alright, I'm back. Sorry Amidrex and AT (and maybe Teddy) for not replying -- I've just been really busy after coming home from my vacation.
It turns out that missing two days of school makes you miss tons of classwork, tons of homework, and just generally drops your grade. I'm doing a group project with two people who don't know what they're doing, and I'm scared as hell as to the grade.

But Teddy's making a comic too now? Where can I read it?
All this comic talk is inspiring me to get back into learning how to draw...

[Razanir]

My dorm's talent show was last night. The record was set by a quartet that sang the Song of the Lonely Mountain a cappella... the BOOK VERSION of the Song of the Lonely Mountain. (They raised $376 with their act)

[Cuthalion]

My dorm's talent show was last night. The record was set by a quartet that sang the Song of the Lonely Mountain a cappella... the BOOK VERSION of the Song of the Lonely Mountain. (They raised $376 with their act)

Ah, sweet. I feel it's rather unappreciated, after everyone loved the one in the movie.

[Razanir]

My other collegiate news is that I'm now double majoring in actuarial and computer science.

[enderlord99]

My other collegiate news is that I'm now double majoring in actuarial and computer science.

Your second major makes sense, but isn't the first one equivalent to "economics," or, more pointedly, "collecting dull green strips of linen?"

[Feytalist]

Your second major makes sense, but isn't the first one equivalent to "economics," or, more pointedly, "collecting dull green strips of linen?"

Haha nope.

Actuaries aren't economists or stockbrokers or investment fund managers. Sure, we can be, but we bring a particular skill to the table other than just taking the financial system for a ride.

Actuaries are practical statisticians and financial mathematicians focused in areas where risk is quantified financially, most obviously in the insurance industry. Hence our use of specialised tables of mortality and morbidity rates to forecast and quantify future risk.

Our skills don't necessarily tell us how to make money, just how probably not to lose money already amassed. In specialised situations.


Edit: Wow, I didn't mean for that to turn into a whole lecture. But on the upside, now everyone knows what actuaries are!

Mostly it just involves staring at a spreadsheet all day wondering why your fund buildup values aren't what you expect them to be.

[Thufir]

I can sympathise; my attempts to enjoy games of Android: Netrunner have been hampered by the fact that no one else within at least a 10 km radius has any interest in it.

I strongly suspect this to be inaccurate. Gamers are everywhere, it's just that finding them can be difficult. Also I'm pretty sure you can play Netrunner online with OCTGN.
That said, my actual knowledge of Netrunner is limited to the fact it's a competitive card game by Fantasy Flight Games and that a kind of jokey article I read depicting "The 16 steps to LOTR LCG Addiction" included as two of said steps finally finding someone willing to play with you, and then a few steps later 'He eventually ditches you for Netrunner'.

[FinnLassie]

Wow that is a lot to have happened. I was gone too long too. But the mention of negative feelings...I hope you'll be okay. How does getting rid of hair help the removal of negativity?

I explained it earlier to Curlington, but it's a sort of a cleansing. A ritual. Stuff. Hard to explain.


ALSO YAY FRESH MEAT MAKING A FRESH THREAD!

[Mx.Silver]

I strongly suspect this to be inaccurate. Gamers are everywhere, it's just that finding them can be difficult.

I never said there weren't people who played card games, just that they aren't interested in Netrunner. There's a fair MtG contingent, and a few Yugioh players kicking around, but if there are any Netrunner players hidden away I have yet to stumble across them.

The other difficulty being that of the gaming gatherings in my general area, the main ones are either based around miniature wargames - mostly 40k - or RPGs (which I don't play), with some MtG and one or two other board/card games on the side. As such, I'm not exactly a familiar face there. So while I'm not averse to introducing people to it (I'm pretty new to them game myself), I don't particularly know anyone there in the first place.

Also I'm pretty sure you can play Netrunner online with OCTGN.

You can, although the thing there is that my internet connection isn't always entirely stable which can be a bit of a problem. There's also the fact that Netrunner benefits a lot from being played face-to-face, as it has a fair bit more bluffing involved and mind-games potential than, say, MtG generally does. Some of the fun of which gets lost over on online interface.

[Solse]

My other collegiate news is that I'm now double majoring in actuarial and computer science.

Hooray for computer science! What've you been programming recently?

My dorm's talent show was last night. The record was set by a quartet that sang the Song of the Lonely Mountain a cappella... the BOOK VERSION of the Song of the Lonely Mountain. (They raised $376 with their act)

My school is having a miniature talent show tonight. A friend and I are performing an original song (me on electric uke, him on electric guitar). Only problem is that we haven't actually finished writing the song. Oh well.

[AtlanteanTroll]

Oh talent shows. Useless for us studio types. Thats why I just always drew the posters.

[enderlord99]

Actuaries are practical statisticians and financial mathematicians focused in areas where risk is quantified financially, most obviously in the insurance industry. Hence our use of specialised tables of mortality and morbidity rates to forecast and quantify future risk.

...

Oh. You're those people.

[Solse]

Oh talent shows. Useless for us studio types. Thats why I just always drew the posters.

A good idea for talent shows would to have an art gallery displayed around the venue. That way, the talent show isn't just for people who want to sing or dance, it's for the artists too.

[AtlanteanTroll]

The Olympics used to have an associated art gallery back in Ancient Greece, fun fact. Wish it did now. We need something to replace the Parisian Salon on an international scale. But meh, there's never enough time for art.

[LaZodiac]

...so I beat Grim Fandango.

The only reason I played this game to the finish is because I hoped the ending might be good, and because it was a personal gift from a friend.

How did anyone like this game? The puzzles are...the standard for the era. The plot is bare bones and flat. The film noir aspects are non existent, and we only ever once see the Land of the Living and it's weird, cut out magazine art style, which I was hyped up as being important to the game. The entire game takes place on the Day of the Dead, where the Dead can go to the world of the living, and they do...nothing with it.

So........yeah.

[enderlord99]

Weird, nearly unworkable character concept(s) for movies/games/novels/comics/whatever, somewhat fleshed-out:

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A ghost knowingly works alongside the very person who killed him.

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There was a pair of mercenaries/assassins who always worked together, and who had never failed to kill their mark. They would kill anyone, for a price: when a super-rich enemy of theirs began to announce publicly that he would give forty percent of his fortune to anyone who could kill one of them, they immediately broke into his bunker, dispatched dozens of armed security guards, burst into the room from which he was broadcasting his demands, and had an elaborate duel to the death in front of the rolling cameras. Then, still on air, the winner demanded that the rich guy wire over the money immediately. He said he'd rather die twice over...

And the two partners, one now a ghost, were only too happy to oblige.

[CurlyKitGirl]

Having been stricken with an insufferable cold, replete with a hideously runny nose, and having spent a few days reading tips for packing and moving lightly across the world and miscellaneous teaching tips I can't be bothered to go through the old thread. I know I'll end up quoting twenty odd people, and my head and fingers just aren't up to Quotestorming a Wall-O'-Text tonight.

So let's iust remember a really old phenomena that maybe half of you, at best, would recognise. If that. Or am I iust ioking when it comes feeling old and out of place.
It's depressing thinking of the people I used to hang out with here.
I'll be in a corner thinking about how I've become an old maid before my time, wistfully staring into the past and remarking about things like the Pirates III game down in Structured Games, or AMEN, or the RB where everyone started becoming deified.
Don't mind me, just deposit the white chocolate and tea at the door; I'll be wrapped in my crocheted blanket, sitting in my rocking chair.
Listening to K-Pop. And J-Pop. And Vietnamese radio.
Planning to take over the world.
With books.
Ia. Ia. Koorlyshtka f'taghn of older times.

Damn I'm feeling melancholy today! It's not even appropriate weather outside, but I'm doing it anyway. :pout: