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Thread: Ranged Grapple?
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2007-04-11, 02:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ranged Grapple?
OK, so not realy "ranged," more like slightly over there.
Some weapons discriptions include phrases like "can be used to entangle an opponents...", spiked chain and whip come to mind. Does anybody know of RAW for not using this to trip or disarm, but leave the enemy entangled in the weapon. Basically using the weapon to initiate a grapple.
I am also thinking in terms of, how does a lasso or hoop-staff work in D&D?Olethros –
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2007-04-11, 03:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ranged Grapple?
I'm not sure about a hoop staff, but the Lasso from BoED, which requires an Exotic Weapon Proficiency, deals no damage, but instead makes a ranged touch attack grappled against the opponent's arms/legs/chest, ect.
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2007-04-11, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ranged Grapple?
Can't be done with a spiked chain or whip. They're not "entangly" enough.
The best you can do with one of these weapons is to wrap it around a limb, and (if you don't immediately try to trip the opponent) it will basicaly unwrap it self.
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2007-04-11, 05:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ranged Grapple?
Net?
Don't know if there are rules for it anywhere, but it seems like the thing to use. Otherwise lasso as mentioned.
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2007-04-11, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-04-11, 06:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ranged Grapple?
Indeed, but it's a magical whip. One could even estrapolate to say that the Balor controls it's movements.
Turning that into a magic weapon enhancement, would be pretty neat.
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2007-04-11, 06:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ranged Grapple?
right. alsoo it receives an attack of opportunity with the whip when plummetting, whether due to a sudden lack of bridge or otherwise.
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2007-04-11, 09:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ranged Grapple?
net and tangle foot bag are all that come to mind. but whips are chains just do some tripping. though (and i know you asked for RAW) talk to a DM about magical abilites that could do that to/enchant a whip
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2007-04-11, 09:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ranged Grapple?
isn't there a feat somewhere that lets you do this? When an opponent stands next to a wall or other obstacle you can shoot an arrow to pin his clothes to the wall.
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2007-04-11, 10:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ranged Grapple?
Player: Hurray, I finally get the Pin-clothes-to-wall feat!
GM: Enjoy it.
One month later...
Player: Hmm..
GM: Yes?
Player: I can't help but notice that every foe we've faced in the last month has always stayed 5 feet away from walls, doors or even tables.
GM: Thats not true, that one wizard stood in a niche in the wall.
Player: The one with freedom of movement?
GM: Thats the one.
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2007-04-12, 11:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ranged Grapple?
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2007-04-12, 01:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ranged Grapple?
I have been kicking around the idea if a intellegent whip, perhaps its greater powers could mimick the bealors whip.
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2007-04-12, 01:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ranged Grapple?
That's when you get your Fighter buddy to pick up Improved Bull Rush (isn't that a prerequisite for Shock Trooper?), and you grab Precise Shot/Improved Precise Shot. Have him push the enemy to the wall, you nail'em there (with a hail of arrows from manyshot, if your DM will allow it?), and they get a full attack against a foe pinned against the wall next turn, so they lose their dex to AC.Pokemon friend code : 3067-5701-8746
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