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    It's begun! Don't tell Keledrath, I want to tell him first!

    What's a maneuver? It's an attack used by initiators ("Martial Adepts").

    They are Boosts, Strikes, Counters, or Stances. Some maneuvers are untyped, but we won't be doing that.

    They have a level, a school, a range, a type, and a prerequisite consisting of other a number maneuvers from that school.

    Thanks to Zaydos, the school we will putting under is called Sandbox Goliath. The favored skill is Martial Lore/Knowledge: Martial.

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    Maneuvers
    1st:
    Morphic Weapon
    Shield of Loyalty
    Crimson Necrosis
    Essence Eruption
    Brain Scrambler
    Check Your Facts
    Talya's Loose Step
    Righteous Mope

    2nd:
    Troacctid's Transcendental Twitch
    Long Post
    Presence of the Anchovy Champion
    Talya's Spiral Dance


    3rd:
    Stance of the Loyal Paladin
    Stacking Assault Stance
    Wham Bam Slam
    Bladelord's Attitude
    Strike of the Twin Planes
    The Sound of Steel


    4th:

    Eclipse the Night
    Thousand Dragon Strike
    Mirror of Zinc and Dysprosium
    Seerow's Surprising Stomach Punch


    5th:
    Deadly Analysis
    The Harder They Fall
    Icy Veteran Stance
    Soul Tempest



    6th:

    Winter's Coming
    Battle Without Resolution
    We Have Cookies!


    7th:
    42 Fists of Iz
    Endoskeleton of War
    Milo's Encouraging Triple Strike



    8th:

    Stance of the Mind Breaker

    9th:

    Red Hand of the Fel
    The High Bladelord's Glorious Bane of a Thousand Armies
    Strike of the Blizzard Chainsaw
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    Before this thread gets rolling, I have to ask: how did this thread trend start, and why isn't it in the homebrew subforum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Extra Anchovies View Post
    Before this thread gets rolling, I have to ask: how did this thread trend start, and why isn't it in the homebrew subforum?
    Because we're discussing and teaching rules for the systems.

    It started because I got bored like 2 years ago.
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    The LoyalPaladin grants you permission.


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    It started because I got bored like 2 years ago.
    Ah, okay. Last time I was here regularly (back in January) I don't think I saw any of these threads around, I guess this is just my first time running into them. Carry on, I guess. Not that you need my approval, really
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    Finally! A thread where the excessive posturing and anime gifs will fit right in!

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    Not that you need my approval, really
    No, but we do need approval from you if we want to write you up a maneuver!
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    No, but we do need approval from you if we want to write you up a maneuver!
    Sure, I might as well join the party. Extra Anchovies grants his permission.
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    Stance of the Loyal Paladin

    Discipline: Sandbox Goliath (Stance) [law]
    Level: 3
    Prerequisite(s): One Sandbox Goliath maneuver
    Initiation Action: 1 swift action
    Range: Personal
    Target: You
    Duration: Stance

    DESCRIPTION

    The Sandbox Goliath discipline draws its inspiration from many techniques, and many students have left their mark on the school. One such student taught that pure, glorious order was the secret to victory in all things. The stance itself is tall and rigid, with straight back and regal bearing. Some have argued that the technique was derived (others would say stolen) from the Silver Crane technique known as the Stance of the Silver Crane.

    While in this stance, any weapon that the martial disciple wields is treated as if it had the Axiomatic special weapon property. Additionally, he is considered under the influence of a Protection from Chaos spell with a caster level equal to his initiator level.

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    This stance is lifted whole cloth from the Black Seraph and Silver Crane stances which provide Unholy/Protection from Good and Holy/Protection from Evil, respectively. If the new PoW expansion has already included this, too bad, I published first.
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    I grant my permission!

    I'd also appreciate a Soulmeld or Veil, but you know, it's not like I care or anything. B-baka
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    The Fel that is Red grants the permission that is his to give!
    This was all I needed.

    Red Hand of the Fel
    Discipline: Sandbox Goliath (Strike)
    Level: 9
    Prerequisites: Five Sandbox Goliath maneuvers
    Casting Time: 1 standard action
    Range: Melee touch attack
    Target: One creature
    Saving Throw: Fortitude Half

    You make a gesture with your hand and become shrouded in shadow. Your prey begins to panic, but it's too late. They're already dead.

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    As part of this maneuver, you make a single melee touch attack. If you hit, you deal normal melee damage plus an extra 2d8 + your constitution modifier of permanent constitution damage. You must make an intimidate check upon dealing damage, this becomes the save for half damage.



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    I'd also appreciate a Soulmeld or Veil, but you know, it's not like I care or anything. B-baka
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    Discipline: Sandbox Goliath (Strike)
    Level: 7
    Initiating Action: 1 full round action
    Range: Melee attack
    Target: One creature in range
    Duration: Special (see text)
    Saving throw: Fortitude Partial (See Text)

    The disciple of the sandbox goliath unleashes a rapid flurry of punches that leave foes staggered. Make a full attack against a single target. For each attack that hits, the target must succeed on a Fortitude Save or be staggered for one round. Each failed fortitude save after the first increases the duration of this stagger effect by one round.

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    This was all I needed.

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    Caught me red-ha*thud*

    They're already dead.


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    I'd also appreciate a Soulmeld or Veil, but you know, it's not like I care or anything. B-baka
    If I was any good at them, I'd make one for both you and Zaydos. But unfortunately, I am not.

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    Caught me red-ha*thud*
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    Stance of the Mind Breaker
    Discipline: Sandbox Goliath (Stance)
    Level: 8
    Initiating Action: 1 swift action
    Range: personal
    Target: you
    Duration: Stance
    Saving Throw: Will Half(see text)

    The incredible collective genius of the playground fills your mind, allowing you to view the presence of lesser minds and attack their weaker wills to draw them to your side. While in this stance, you gain Mindsight out to a range of 60 ft. and once per round when you would make an attack, the target must succeed on a Will Save or be put under the effects of a charm person spell (Save DC 18+ Initiation Modifier) for one round.

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    Discipline: Sandbox Goliath (Counter)
    Level: 5
    Initiation Action: 1 immediate action
    Range: Personal or close
    Target: You
    Duration: Instant

    Twist and inch here and the shot flies past your and ricochets back to your assailant. You did the math.

    When targeted by an enemy attack from within close range, you may make a knowledge martial check. Use the result of the check as your AC vs the attack if higher than your AC. If the attack misses, you sidestep the attack and your attacker becomes the target of the attack, using your knowledge (martial) roll in place of the original attack roll.

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    Stacking Assault Stance

    Discipline: Sandbox Goliath (Stance)
    Level: 3
    Prerequisite(s): One Sandbox Goliath maneuver
    Initiation Action: 1 swift action
    Range: Personal
    Target: You
    Duration: Stance

    DESCRIPTION

    The Sandbox Goliath discipline draws its inspiration from many techniques, and many students have left their mark on the school. One such student taught that victory came from teamwork, which he proceeded to define as "a bunch of dudes ganging up on another dude." His trademark stance involved fluid movement and a total lack of respect for personal space, which he learned after studying with the Ratfolk in their communal living and combat techniques.

    While in this stance, the martial disciple gains the benefit of the Ratfolk Swarming racial trait. He may occupy the same space as any one character with that trait as if he had it. Alternatively, up to three characters using this stance may occupy the same space. If two or more characters occupying the same space attack the same enemy, they are treated as flanking.

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    I pretty much just based this on Stack's name. As in, how can I make melee combatants stack? Answer: Put them all in one space.

    For level purposes, I used Golden Lion Commander stance as a template, which allows any ally within 30 feet to flank. Instead of any ally within 30 feet, it's within the same space, but you get to share a space. So, that's a thing.
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    Wham Bam Slam
    Discipline: Sandbox Goliath (Strike)
    Level: 3
    Initiation Action: 1 standard action
    Range: Melee Attack
    Target: One Creature
    Duration: Instant
    Save: Reflex

    Make a melee attack. If successful, you may make a grapple check against your target that does not provoke an attack of opportunity, using your martial adept level in place of your BAB if higher to determine your CMB. If successful, you may throw the target into another square within reach. If that square is occupied, both the thrown creature and the creature in that space take damage equal to 1d6 plus 1d6 per the thrown creature's number of size categories above small plus your strength modifier. The thrown creature may attempt a reflex save to reduce the damage taken by both creatures to half. If an unoccupied square is chosen, the thrown creature takes the additional damage. Regardless of target, the thrown creature must make a reflex save or fall prone.

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    Thanks, Elric! Some silliness was needed in my life after a day of standardized testing (I finished my test in 45 minutes, with four hours allowed. I forgot my book. *grumble*)
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    Missed most of the other threads, but this time I really want to be maneuver-ized so yeah, so permission granted.
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    Elric - did you give permission?

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    Missed most of the other threads, but this time I really want to be maneuver-ized so yeah, so permission granted.
    Eclipse the Night
    Discipline: Sandbox Goliath (Counter)
    Level: 4
    Initiating Action: 1 immediate action
    Range: personal
    Target: you
    Duration: instantaneous
    Saving Throw: None

    Many fear the night, for it is dark and full of terrors, but the disciple of Sandbox Goliath has learned to optimize the darkness and use it against his foes. When you initiate this counter, you immediately gain total concealment against the next attack made against you. If that attack misses, you can teleport up to 100 ft. in any direction. You may also make a counterattack against the creature that attacked you and missed, and you may choose to make this counterattack before or after you teleport.


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    Thanks, Elric! Some silliness was needed in my life after a day of standardized testing (I finished my test in 45 minutes, with four hours allowed. I forgot my book. *grumble*)
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    Wham Bam Slam
    Discipline: Sandbox Goliath (Strike)
    Level: 3
    Initiation Action: 1 standard action
    Range: Melee Attack
    Target: One Creature
    Duration: Instant
    Save: Reflex

    Make a melee attack. If successful, you may make a grapple check against your target that does not provoke an attack of opportunity, using your martial adept level in place of your BAB if higher to determine your CMB. If successful, you may throw the target into another square within reach. If that square is occupied, both the thrown creature and the creature in that space take damage equal to 1d6 plus 1d6 per the thrown creature's number of size categories above small plus your strength modifier. The thrown creature may attempt a reflex save to reduce the damage taken by both creatures to half. If an unoccupied square is chosen, the thrown creature takes the additional damage. Regardless of target, the thrown creature must make a reflex save or fall prone.
    Nice. I've always been partial to the Setting Sun throws.

    Just a few questions about minor details. I'm not sure if it's actual awkward wording or if I'm just ignorant about certain aspects of PoW.

    1. It seems a little odd to use martial adept level in place of initiator level. Is that a common convention in PoW, or am I misunderstanding the meaning, or what?
    2. Does PoW standardize the stat modifier that applies to saves so that it's not necessary to specify that the Ref save is 13+Str or whatever? ToB sort of varies from discipline to discipline.
    3. More generally (applying to all these maneuvers, in a way). Does PoW do away with maneuver known prereqs?

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