[3.5+ToB/PF +DSP/PoW] GitP Regulars as Maneuvers!

[Snowbluff]

No wonder I had the strange obsession with creating a vampire this morning...

Huh. I didn't know you could contract vampirism like that. Well, I really should be more careful.

[NeoPhoenix0]

Huh. I didn't know you could contract vampirism like that. Well, I really should be more careful.

You need to be very careful, it is both some sort of animation of the dead and some sort of magical and biological disease, it also comes in about infinity different types so good luck figuring out how to deal with whichever type you got. There are ways to get rid of it, but i find it can better to just buy some ridiculous sunblock, magically protect yourself, or eclipse the sun. The last one usually gets the attention of paladins though so you should only use it for dramatic occasions.

[LoyalPaladin]

Huh. I didn't know you could contract vampirism like that. Well, I really should be more careful.

You need to be very careful, it is both some sort of animation of the dead and some sort of magical and biological disease ...

Ha ha ha. Very funny.

At 3rd level, a paladin gains immunity to all diseases, including supernatural and magical diseases.

[illyahr]

Ha ha ha. Very funny.

What happens if you multiclass and only get Pal3 after you become a vampire? Something like Pal2 -> vamped -> Helm of Opposite Alignment -> Pal3.

[LoyalPaladin]

What happens if you multiclass and only get Pal3 after you become a vampire? Something like Pal2 -> vamped -> Helm of Opposite Alignment -> Pal3.

Huh. I guess that works. I mean, I've gotten so many paladins past 3 now that I've lost count. I'm unsure LoyalVampadin has quite the same umph.

Speaking of vampires, can someone point me in the direction of the Vampire Lord template? I think it was published on the WotC website, but I can't find it.

[Elricaltovilla]

What happens if you multiclass and only get Pal3 after you become a vampire? Something like Pal2 -> vamped -> Helm of Opposite Alignment -> Pal3.

I think Pal3 would retroactively cure the disease, wouldn't it?

[LoyalPaladin]

I think Pal3 would retroactively cure the disease, wouldn't it?

I was under the impression that it didn't work like that? I thought it just made you immune.

[Elricaltovilla]

I was under the impression that it didn't work like that? I thought it just made you immune.

Well I'm mixing real science and D&D, which is always a bad idea. But if you're immune to a disease, you no longer suffer its effects or symptoms, so you'd no longer show any outward signs of vampirism, right? I don't know, I'm not a biologist or a magician.

[LoyalPaladin]

Well I'm mixing real science and D&D, which is always a bad idea. But if you're immune to a disease, you no longer suffer its effects or symptoms, so you'd no longer show any outward signs of vampirism, right? I don't know, I'm not a biologist or a magician.

Oh. Hmmm. I'm paid to Smite Evil, not do the sciences...

[Honest Tiefling]

Oh. Hmmm. I'm paid to Smite Evil, not do the sciences...

Accepting wealth instead of donating it or outright refusing it? My, my, am I ever disappointed in you. I expected better.

[Elricaltovilla]

Accepting wealth instead of donating it or outright refusing it? My, my, am I ever disappointed in you. I expected better.

He's the Loyal Paladin, not the Vow of Poverty Paladin. If he was, he'd never be able to use that cursed Holy Avenger I got him for his birthday.

[LoyalPaladin]

Accepting wealth instead of donating it or outright refusing it? My, my, am I ever disappointed in you. I expected better.

People tithe for a reason. Part of it goes to Torm and another part goes to his divine agents.

It's a total temple scheme if you ask me.

He's the Loyal Paladin, not the Vow of Poverty Paladin. If he was, he'd never be able to use that cursed Holy Avenger I got him for his birthday.

I use a Large +5 Holy Cold Iron Greatsword on my main Paladin. When Gallant smites, he means it. Also, Paladins are totally allowed money.

[Honest Tiefling]

Well, I guess those orphans will have to understand that they aren't getting food today because someone had to buy more armor polish. It's fine. And completely understandable that his loyalty to others has well-defined limits. I mean, no one is perfect and it would be insane to expect him to be a paragon of selflessness after all.

[LoyalPaladin]

Well, I guess those orphans will have to understand that they aren't getting food today because someone had to buy more armor polish. It's fine. And completely understandable that his loyalty to others has well-defined limits. I mean, no one is perfect and it would be insane to expect him to be a paragon of selflessness after all.

Pay no attention to the fact that my polished armor and sharpened sword are the reason the orphanage still stands.

My loyalty is to Torm. I have faith that he will provide for the orphans.

[Elricaltovilla]

I got you a present and you won't even use it

[Honest Tiefling]

Pay no attention to the fact that my polished armor and sharpened sword are the reason the orphanage still stands.

My loyalty is to Torm. I have faith that he will provide for the orphans.

Well, the orphanage is standing, less so the orphans themselves. And I'm sure that the legions of evil tremble at your shiny armor instead of the cleric who can feed them AND outfight you.

[NeoPhoenix0]

Here is the vampire lord template.

Silly LP, vampirism has the benefit of not counting as a disease once you have it. There are also the special ways of getting it that don't involve disease.

[LoyalPaladin]

I got you a present and you won't even use it

Of course I'll use it. Why else would I have purchased Gloves of the Balanced Hand?

Well, the orphanage is standing, less so the orphans themselves. And I'm sure that the legions of evil tremble at your shiny armor instead of the cleric who can feed them AND outfight you.

This is why paladins work with clerics. I fight the orcs, they feed the orphans. The whole clerics vs paladin thing has definitely grown old. Tiefling, the paladin has now banished you from his presence.

Here is the vampire lord template.

Who is my favorite disciple? You are! You're my favorite little disciple!

[Honest Tiefling]

This is why paladins work with clerics. I fight the orcs, they feed the orphans. The whole clerics vs paladin thing has definitely grown old. Tiefling, the paladin has now banished you from his presence.[/I]

You can't cast it and tieflings are mostly all native outsiders anyway. Now time to rearrange some throw pillows.

[Snowbluff]

Ha ha ha. Very funny.

Oh good, that means I don't have to prep prot-

Silly LP, vampirism has the benefit of not counting as a disease once you have it. There are also the special ways of getting it that don't involve disease.

DAMMIT!

Not to mention that he's not immune if he's dead. If a paladin gets drain by a vampire they just become one.

[IZ42]

I vote Elder Evils (and possibly Great Old Ones)!

[illyahr]

I wouldn't mind Elder Evils. What would an Elder Evil bard work for, anyway?

[PsyBomb]

I'll vote ACF/Archetype, but either will be fun

[Zaydos]

I wouldn't mind Elder Evils. What would an Elder Evil bard work for, anyway?

Elder Evils don't work for things, they are the top dogs.

And now I'm thinking about the Songplague which would be the first disease born from the plague pits of Oinos, in the riddled body of the first mortal to die of disease, and sealed away by the gods at great cost.

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I don't know Elder Evils well, never liked that book
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[illyahr]

Elder Evils don't work for things, they are the top dogs.

And now I'm thinking about the Songplague which would be the first disease born from the plague pits of Oinos, in the riddled body of the first mortal to die of disease, and sealed away by the gods at great cost.

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I don't know Elder Evils well, never liked that book
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Not who, but what does it work for? In another phrasing, what purpose drives its machinations?

[Zaydos]

Not who, but what does it work for? In another phrasing, what purpose drives its machinations?

To spread the Songplague, the first, primal disease born when the world was young.

[ScrambledBrains]

Not to just pop in again and then disappear like the swordsage/rogue/ninja I love to play, but I'd be good with anything. Just throwing in my opinion.

*Throws down a smoke bomb and disappears into the night.*

[Blackhawk748]

Elder Evils gets my vote

[Threadnaught]

Yeah, go Elder Evils, maybe I'll get one of those instead of a Maneuver, or God.
This is precisely why I gave preemptive permission.

[Honest Tiefling]

Strange idea, but what of plot hooks for each forum dweller?