[3.5+ToB/PF +DSP/PoW] GitP Regulars as Maneuvers!

[LoyalPaladin]

Cuz weren't you trying to be Neutral Evil or something?

Seconded.

Oh, uh... it's not my blood... but I'm keeping it for a friend.

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Right... *detect evil*

With all this talk of templates, maybe that could be our next thread? GitP Regulars as Templates or Combinations of Existing Templates?

I would be all over this one.

We should really just pick one already. It's not like we aren't going to do the rest of them at some point.

Agreed.

[Zaydos]

GitP Regulars as True Dragons!

I kid, oh sweet mother Tiamat I kid. Though honestly... I could probably link a few that would work for some of you.

[Elricaltovilla]

GitP Regulars as True Dragons!

I kid, oh sweet mother Tiamat I kid. Though honestly... I could probably link a few that would work for some of you.

You're gonna have to elaborate on that one.

I propose GitP regulars as attack helicopters.

[LoyalPaladin]

GitP Regulars as True Dragons!

I kid, oh sweet mother Tiamat I kid. Though honestly... I could probably link a few that would work for some of you.

I'd be up for wacky dragons everywhere.

I propose GitP regulars as attack helicopters.

GitP Regulars as Ugly Christmas Sweaters?

[Ilorin Lorati]

I propose GitP regulars as attack helicopters.

Spoiler: Elric the Helichopper

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[Extra Anchovies]

You're gonna have to elaborate on that one.

I think he means designing types of true dragons for each of us, including breath weapon type, any relevant subtypes, and anything that would appear in the "special abilities" column in the monster manual (e.g. DR, spell-like abilities). Hit die/casting/size progressions wouldn't need to be mentioned except in special cases.

And I actually really like that idea. I want there to be an Anchovy Dragon.

[Milo v3]

I think he means designing types of true dragons for each of us, including breath weapon type, any relevant subtypes, and anything that would appear in the "special abilities" column in the monster manual (e.g. DR, spell-like abilities). Hit die/casting/size progressions wouldn't need to be mentioned except in special cases.

And I actually really like that idea. I want there to be an Anchovy Dragon.

Just use the PF method, only things you need to list are the wyrmling stats and the special abilities it gets from aging.

[Elricaltovilla]

I'll agree that dragons deserve their own thread, but they do happen to be the most complicated monsters to build in my opinion.

I figured he was just going to assign existing True Dragons to us. I'd probably end up a battle dragon.

EDIT: If I do become a dragon, this should be my breath weapon.

[Milo v3]

I figured he was just going to assign existing True Dragons to us. I'd probably end up a battle dragon.

I'd assume he'd go Sublime Dragon for you.

[IZ42]

I can kinda figure out who the rest of these are, but who's the bolded one? Cuz weren't you trying to be Neutral Evil or something?

My avatar is what I'm referring to. My evil persona is Half-fiend Nosferatu Herald of the Apocalypse Deathknight.

[Elricaltovilla]

I'd assume he'd go Sublime Dragon for you.

Did not know that was a thing.

[Snowbluff]

Right... *detect evil*

Not evil. ;P

EDIT: If I do become a dragon, this should be my breath weapon.

I was expecting you to spew swords at people. I was not disappointed.

[LoyalPaladin]

My avatar is what I'm referring to. My evil persona is Half-fiend Nosferatu Daemon-Host Deathknight.

Oh. Well if that's how we're playing this... I'm an Axiomatic Celestial Saint Vampire Aasimar Paladin.

Not evil. ;P

... Is that a ring of undetectable alignment you're wearing?

[Elricaltovilla]

I'll just stick to being a Dragonborn. Too many templates make it hard to stack on the appropriate class levels necessary to emulate my awesomeness.

[illyahr]

... Is that a ring of undetectable alignment you're wearing?

I swear on all that is Lawful that it's not mine.

[LoyalPaladin]

I'll just stick to being a Dragonborn. Too many templates make it hard to stack on the appropriate class levels necessary to emulate my awesomeness.

I like to think that here on GitP we have cheesed ourselves out of any LA.

I swear on all that is Lawful that it's not mine.

You do realize that 10 intelligence is still average and I have a high Wis right?

Alignment:
Any nonlawful.

[illyahr]

You do realize that 10 intelligence is still average and I have a high Wis right?

True, but now you have to figure out if that was a failed Bluff check or a snarky Diplomacy check.

[Elricaltovilla]

You do realize that 10 intelligence is still average and I have a high Wis right?

With only two skill points per level, how are you affording any ranks in Sense Motive?

[Snowbluff]

... Is that a ring of undetectable alignment you're wearing?

It's my wedding ring!



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[Honest Tiefling]

With only two skill points per level, how are you affording any ranks in Sense Motive?

Given all of the **** a paladin has to put up with from party members, why isn't this the first skill they invest in?

"That inn lit itself on fire!" "Goblins took all of our gold, I saw them go that way. I'll warn the town!" "Your wife fell onto me, honest! This isn't what it looks like!"

[LoyalPaladin]

True, but now you have to figure out if that was a failed Bluff check or a snarky Diplomacy check.

This is where being a vampire comes in handy! I get domination.

With only two skill points per level, how are you affording any ranks in Sense Motive?

+8 from Vampire and a bunch of Wis. I also have a higher intelligence because of my templates. So I made sure to invest in it.

It's my wedding ring!



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You know. I'm not sure even a bluff check would help you here. I'm too exposed to you now. I know how you work.

[dysprosium]

It could a prestige class called Sandstorm Swordsman. Haha.

I can get behind the idea of a prestige class that teaches the discipline and increases your proficiency with it.

In Path of War there are currently two ways to add a discipline to your list without getting into archetypes or prestige classes.

You can use the trait Unorthodox Method, which allows you to trade one discipline on your class discipline list for any other discipline (and trading the associated discipline skills as well). Or you can use a Martial Tradition, which is an organization you join and swear an oath to. Each discipline has an associated Martial Tradition and some small side benefits for joining.

Crusader and Mystic for the randomness and probably Warlord because of it's flare for the dramatic.

Traditions are a mechanic added in PoW that give you the school. We're working on a tradition that should work like an organization, so you can pick it up that way.

Also, we should add a stipulation for swordsage and master of nine. Those would be best, due to the varied nature of the effects.

I admit that I know little about Path of War other than that it is a thing. I know some of the classes and what not but I am much more proficient with Tome of Battle. Path of War does interest me though. Thank you all for the knowledge.

Swordsage was my initial thought for Tome of Battle.

[Elricaltovilla]

Given all of the **** a paladin has to put up with from party members, why isn't this the first skill they invest in?

"That inn lit itself on fire!" "Goblins took all of our gold, I saw them go that way. I'll warn the town!" "Your wife fell onto me, honest! This isn't what it looks like!"

Because you can fall for knowingly associating with evil. If you don't know the party is a bunch of roving evil murderhobos, you don't risk falling because of what they do. Even if you "know."

[Honest Tiefling]

Ah, yes, that does make perfect sense. I see why making their spell casting charisma based was a good idea in Pathfinder now.

[illyahr]

This is where being a vampire comes in handy! I get domination.

Force of Personality. I get to use my CHA modifier instead of WIS for Will saves vs. Mind Effecting. Also I still have my races +2 bonus vs. enchantment spells and effects. I specialize diplomancy so Cloak of Charisma and Tome of Leadership and Influence. Let's not forget the +4 CHA bonus I get from my fey ancestors.

Master Diplomancer. I may be super squishy, but I've talked dwarves into trade agreements that let me buy from them wholesale.

[LoyalPaladin]

Force of Personality. I get to use my CHA modifier instead of WIS for Will saves vs. Mind Effecting. Also I still have my races +2 bonus vs. enchantment spells and effects. I specialize diplomancy so Cloak of Charisma and Tome of Leadership and Influence. Let's not forget the +4 CHA bonus I get from my fey ancestors.

Master Diplomancer. I may be super squishy, but I've talked dwarves into trade agreements that let me buy from them wholesale.

The save for a Vampire's domination is pretty large. But that's okay. Anything I can't solve on my own, I have my new mobile/sentient child carrier handle.

[illyahr]

Anything I can't solve on my own, I have my new mobile/sentient child carrier handle.

Curses, my one weakness.

[LoyalPaladin]

Curses, my one weakness.

Snowbluff is your one weakness? I am so sorry... I think IZ42 is starting up a victims anonymous group for the people Snow has tortured.

[Elricaltovilla]

The save for a Vampire's domination is pretty large. But that's okay. Anything I can't solve on my own, I have my new mobile/sentient child carrier handle.

Considering your LA, RHD and class, you're going to be relying on that child a lot. Good thing you've got all that Charisma for a high leadership score.

[LoyalPaladin]

Considering your LA, RHD and class, you're going to be relying on that child a lot. Good thing you've got all that Charisma for a high leadership score.

The LA and RHD were handled by a magical dairy product sold by GitP's 3.5 division... But the class? Go to your room Elric.