[3.5/PF] GitP Regulars as PrCs!

[Extra Anchovies]

Socratov, that's pretty darn cool. Your BAB and Fortitude save columns are a bit messed up, though.

Also at-will ability drain is a bit much. Maybe just ability damage?

[Socratov]

Socratov, that's pretty darn cool. Your BAB and Fortitude save columns are a bit messed up, though.

Also at-will ability drain is a bit much. Maybe just ability damage?

Good catch! and yeas damage is a bit better then drain in this way...

[Marlowe]

Spoiler: We will see what the gang has to say about this!

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For some reason, I find the 3+Int skill points hilarious.

[RedMage125]

Zaydos, mine was great! Thanks!

[LoyalPaladin]

I've probably got one or two more of these. I'll give them a crack when I get home tonight.

[Elricaltovilla]

Hey I'm back from vacation. Nice to see how productive this thread has been without me. I'll see if I can squeeze out a few more PrCs before I get super busy again.

[LoyalPaladin]

Hey I'm back from vacation. Nice to see how productive this thread has been without me. I'll see if I can squeeze out a few more PrCs before I get super busy again.

Welcome back!

[Socratov]

Hey I'm back from vacation. Nice to see how productive this thread has been without me. I'll see if I can squeeze out a few more PrCs before I get super busy again.

Ah, back form the hinterlands I see...

[LoyalPaladin]

I would like to make an initiator class for Elric, but I lack the proper coding skill... I'll give it a go when I can spend some in depth time on it tonight.

[Elricaltovilla]

I would like to make an initiator class for Elric, but I lack the proper coding skill... I'll give it a go when I can spend some in depth time on it tonight.

S'all good. I'm trying to figure out who I can make a decent PrC out of, while also working on about a half dozen other things that have to happen at some point today.

[LoyalPaladin]

Permission granted.

Time to give this a crack...

Blade Lord
Hit Die
d10

Requirements
Base Attack Bonus: +8
Feats: Power Attack, Improved Initiative
Martial Maneuvers: Must know two Diamond Mind strikes and one White Raven stance.
Skills: 8 ranks in Martial Lore

Class Skills
The Blade Lord’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Balance (Dex), Climb (Str), Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Diplomacy (Cha), Intimidate (Cha), Jump (Str), Knowledge (History) (Int), Knowledge (Local) (Int), Martial Lore (Int), Swim (Str), and Tumble (Dex)

Skill Points at Each Additional Level
4 + Int modifier.

Level	Base Attack Bonus	Fort Save	Ref Save	Will Save	Maneuvers Known	Maneuvers Readied	Stances Known	Class Features
1st	+1	+0	+2	+0	2	1	0	-
2nd	+2	+0	+3	+0	1	1	1	War Veteran
3rd	+3	+1	+3	+1	2	1	0	Dual Stance
4th	+4	+1	+4	+1	1	1	1	Master's Strike
5th	+5	+1	+4	+1	2	1	0	Lord of the Battlefield

Class Features
All the following are Class Features of the Blade Lord prestige class.

Weapon and Armor Proficiency
A Blade Lord is proficient with all simple and martial weapons, all types of armor, and shields (including tower shields).

Maneuvers
At each odd-numbered level, you gain two new maneuvers known from any of your known disciplines, in addition, you may now permanently add Sandbox Goliath to your known disciplines. At each even-numbered level, you gain one new maneuver known from any of your known disciplines. You must meet a maneuver's prerequisite to learn it. You add your full Blade Lord levels to your initiator level to determine your total initiator level and your highest-level maneuvers known. At each level, you gain an additional maneuver readied per day.

War Veteran
You are immune to fear and all other demoralizing effects.

Dual Stance
You can have two stances active simultaneously. When you use a swift action to initiate or change your stance, you can initiate or change one or both stances.

Master's Strike
As long as you've moved at least 5ft before using a strike, you may make any iterative attacks you have after you use that strike.

Lord of the Battlefield
When you step on to a battlefield, it belongs to you. You automatically assume 2 higher than the highest strength ability score on the battlefield.

[Elricaltovilla]

Mmmm that's a tasty PrC.

The Entry requirements are a bit high, but it makes sense given the nature of the PrC.

You might want to fix the Maneuvers text though, it says you only gain new maneuvers at every odd numbered level, which is completely different from the table (2 maneuvers every odd level, one every even, a new maneuver readied at each level and a new stance at 2nd and 4th). It also limits you to only maneuvers from Sandbox Goliath, which is full of nice maneuvers, but super limiting and doesn't support the entry requirements.

War Veteran is a bit meh, but if I'm reading it right Master's Strike is insane and Lord of the Battlefield is just so much cheesy goodness. Those abilities alone make this an amazing choice.

Thank you very much!

[LoyalPaladin]

Mmmm that's a tasty PrC.

I was hoping you'd like it!

The Entry requirements are a bit high, but it makes sense given the nature of the PrC.

Yeah, I wanted it to seem more like a PrC for an experienced warrior.

You might want to fix the Maneuvers text though,

I think I fixed it... I'm mobile right now, so I'm not super efficient. I'll be at a keyboard in a few minutes.

War Veteran is a bit meh, but if I'm reading it right Master's Strike is insane and Lord of the Battlefield is just so much cheesy goodness. Those abilities alone make this an amazing choice.

I knew Master's Strike and Dual Stance would boost damage through the roof, so I needed to give you a flavorful yet reasonable class feature as well haha. Lord of the Battlefield was inspired by the Doomguard and their stupid ability to gain the highest dex in the room.

Thank you very much!

No problem! Us martials gotta stick together!

[Socratov]

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No problem! Us martials gotta stick together!

Exactly why I mostly make full bab PrC's... the (more serious) casters have more then enough already.

[IZ42]

No problem! Us martials gotta stick together!

Do mystic martials count?
(My favorite martial melee characters that are 1st party are in order, Monk, Hunter, Melee Inquisitor, Warpriest, and Ranger)

[LoyalPaladin]

Exactly why I mostly make full bab PrC's... the (more serious) casters have more then enough already.

Depending on the class, I'll give them a medium. But usually I do that too. (I don't really do caster support normally...)

Do mystic martials count?
(My favorite martial melee characters that are 1st party are in order, Monk, Hunter, Melee Inquisitor, Warpriest, and Ranger)

Sure. Since I'm a divine martial, it would be unfair to count out the mystics.

[Zaydos]

I support all 3.5 classes... except Incarnum, Shadowcasting, and Truenaming. I have yet to grok the first, the second is simply restrictive in design and theme (and I on occasion support, just see Xuldarinar), and the last makes me sad inside.

Not as familiar with PF stuff (I have found I like Vizier and Occultist). Occultist fixes most of my problems with binding and gives you a vestige pet! A Vestige Pet! Do you know what my favorite 2 class features are? Familiar and Animal Companion. My favorite official PrC? Arcane Hierophant because it gives me a Familiar that is an Animal Companion (my arcane hierophant almost never changed his spells and never wild shaped twice between level 12 and 20, possibly because while the game was supposed to be round robin I ended up DMing 99% of the time... they wouldn't let me write him out... they whined for 2 sessions when I wrote out his animal companion by awakening it and letting it retire to nanny until I brought it back as a tiger/ranger).

Then again when I had written him out for a few sessions and then we finally had someone else DM for the first time, I made sure to kill off my PC from that in the next adventure. They paid to have him Resurrected (I gave them a discount because he had technically been a cleric on the holy mission of Evangelizing Alternate Prime Material Planes for the Sun God, and they took him to his temple, but they didn't know this at the time). I liked my high school group.

[Snowbluff]

Hey I'm back from vacation. Nice to see how productive this thread has been without me. I'll see if I can squeeze out a few more PrCs before I get super busy again.

Oh, goody. We can start archetypes and ACFs, now.

[LoyalPaladin]

they wouldn't let me write him out...

Isn't it always painfully satisfying when your players want your PC to be in the campaign? I'm currently experiencing that with my Paladin. I've got a LN Samurai player who wanted my PC to be there so bad. I threw him a bone and gave him a cameo. I'm generally against DMPCs.

Oh, goody. We can start archetypes and ACFs, now.

You fiend!

[Zaydos]

Isn't it always painfully satisfying when your players want your PC to be in the campaign? I'm currently experiencing that with my Paladin. I've got a LN Samurai player who wanted my PC to be there so bad. I threw him a bone and gave him a cameo. I'm generally against DMPCs.

Didn't help that he was a wizard/druid theurge, and being a teen I still wasn't used to holding back when building characters (and they were so bad at things... like the knight who never used his challenge and only used Power Attack on things he already had trouble hitting) so he could probably have killed the entire party if he went all out. Then again he was a caster with few of his highest level spell so there were many encounters where he literally just sat in the back and sipped tea while the tiger and knight hit things.

[Komatik]

No problem! Us martials gotta stick together!

A bear farting bears is martial, right? I bash people's faces in, exercising the right to bear arms?

[Zaydos]

A bear farting bears is martial, right? I bash people's faces in, exercising the right to bear arms?

Here have a feat

Bear Burden [Joke]
You are carrying a bear.
Prerequisites: Strength 15+.
Benefit: You have a bear which will not let anyone else near it and will hang onto your back allowing you to carry it. The bear never moves anywhere on its own and will attack any creature you attack. Regardless of its size the bear somehow fits within your space. You must be able to lift the bear overhead to gain the benefits of this feat, otherwise it ignores everything. A black bear weighs 250 lbs, a grizzly bear 700 lbs, a polar bear 1000 lbs, a dire bear 8000 lbs, and a dire polar bear 64000 lbs.

[nedz]

Oh, goody. We can start archetypes and ACFs, now.

Have you done the Monsters yet ?

[Extra Anchovies]

Have you done the Monsters yet ?

Those are hard, and have lots of fiddly little numbers that aren't exactly relevant or fun. Let's not do that one, please.

[Elricaltovilla]

Those are hard, and have lots of fiddly little numbers that aren't exactly relevant or fun. Let's not do that one, please.

I think it's another joke based on my previous statements that I won't be writing any archetypes when we get to that particular thread.

[LoyalPaladin]

I think it's another joke based on my previous statements that I won't be writing any archetypes when we get to that particular thread.

Threadnaught and I had a brief discussion about Affiliations being a good one to add to our queue. Nice and easy.

[Elricaltovilla]

Threadnaught and I had a brief discussion about Affiliations being a good one to add to our queue. Nice and easy.

I don't know anything about Affiliations, but I'm guessing they're like organizations that you can join for benefits? I'd be cool with something like that.

[Venger]

I don't know anything about Affiliations, but I'm guessing they're like organizations that you can join for benefits? I'd be cool with something like that.

they're like the paragnostic assembly. you boost your affiliation score by having certain stats (these many points in a knowledge, attaining at least that lvl, etc) or by doing errands for them. at certain echelons, you gain some benefits in return.

[LoyalPaladin]

I don't know anything about Affiliations, but I'm guessing they're like organizations that you can join for benefits? I'd be cool with something like that.

Yeah, they're kind of like...

they're like the paragnostic assembly. you boost your affiliation score by having certain stats (these many points in a knowledge, attaining at least that lvl, etc) or by doing errands for them. at certain echelons, you gain some benefits in return.

That... yeah, just like that.

[Snowbluff]

I think it's another joke based on my previous statements that I won't be writing any archetypes when we get to that particular thread.

It is. Then again, ACF thread would give you enough time to hop back on the Guardians thread. I have a long list of things for you guys to do. You have to meet with Ed, investigate the blood covered book, get healed, etc.

Threadnaught and I had a brief discussion about Affiliations being a good one to add to our queue. Nice and easy.

Yeah, and almost entirely useless. D:

I think the functional, crunchy threads work much better.