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    Default Dead Men Tell No Tales... [MitP II]

    Watcher
    Medium Undead (incorporeal)
    HD 6d12 (39)
    Speed Fly 30 ft. Perfect (5 squares)
    Init: +1
    AC 16; touch 16; flat-footed 15
    (+1 dex, +5 incorporeal)
    BAB/Grp +3/-
    Attack Surreptitious touch +4 (1d6 cha)
    Full-Attack Surreptitious touch +4 (1d6 cha)
    Space 5 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
    Special Attacks Surreptitious touch, Steal secret
    Special Qualities Seeker of Secrets, Secret sense, Invisibility, Holder of secrets
    Saves Fort - Ref +3 Will +11
    Abilities Str -, Dex 12, Con -, Int 18, Wis 18, Cha 20
    Skills Hide +10, Intimidate +14, Decipher Script +13, Gather Information +16, Knowledge (History, Local, and Nobility/royalty) +23, Knowledge (any other) +14, Search +18, Spot +∞, Listen +∞
    Feats Investigator, Iron Will, Skill Focus (Search)
    Environment Large cities
    Organization Lone
    Challenge Rating 4
    Treasure Normal
    Alignment Any
    Advancement 7-20 (medium)

    A ghostly figure hovered in the shadowy alleyway. The politician glanced around nervously as he approached. The representative of the assassin’s guild stepped out of the shadows, and whispered something to the politician. There was a slight waft of wind, and they both shivered. A small wisp of blue smoke drifted into the alleyway and into the hidden figure…

    Watchers are the spirits of those who have been killed for the sole purpose of keeping a secret. They are often spies fleeing with information, but killed before they can escape. These people return in the form of a ghostly spirit, trying to gather every secret in existence, and holding them all to itself.

    Surreptitious touch: The touch of a Watcher drains the communication abilities of others. When touched by a watcher the target takes 1d6 charisma damage.

    Steal Secret (Su): As a full-round action, a Watcher can take a spoken secret out of the air between two people. A secret spoken from one person to another is taken from the air before being heard. The person telling the secret forgets the secret in it’s entirety, and the listener doesn’t hear it. The speaker gets to make a will save, DC 18, and if they succeed, the secret is not stolen, although they do not realize that the attempt to steal was made. Watchers will often puruse a secret that is succesfully saved for.

    Seeker of Secrets (Ex): Watchers hunt down secrets wherever they could possibly exist. They automatically succeed any spot or listen checks that would be available.

    Secret Sense (Su): A Watcher can detect secrets being passed between people, and within others’ minds. If there is anyone who has a secret within 1 mile of a Watcher, they know the exact location of the person, as well as the general nature of the secret (such as ‘political secret’) and will seek the person out, paying closer attention to any secrets similar to the one they were killed for.

    Natural Invisibility (Su): A watcher is naturally invisible at all times. If a watcher attacks, it becomes visible until 1 round after the watcher has stopped attacking. This ability is inherent and not subject to the invisibility purge spell.

    Holder of Secrets (Ex): Watchers spend eternity gathering secrets. They never divulge their secrets to anyone. They never speak, and no forms of mind-reading or information gathering spells or abilities work on a Watcher. It is effectively impossible to learn secrets from a Watcher. Watchers get an automatic +10 on all knowledge checks.
    Last edited by Icewalker; 2007-04-26 at 01:20 AM.

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    Default Re: Dead Men Tell No Tales... [MitP II]

    Holder of Secrets is a bit unnecessary, given that undead are immune to mind-affecting effects anyway.
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    Default Re: Dead Men Tell No Tales... [MitP II]

    Does mind-reading count as mind-affecting?

    Still, I'd like to include it, because it makes sure to plug up most loopholes of information gathering, like intimidate checks. The only possible way to get information from a Watcher is out of another ghost being, which I may or may not create: when a person who created a Watcher dies, they become one of em (still missing a name) and they do basically the opposite. Spout gibberish secrets, and they can get them out of Watchers.

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    Yeah, all the mind-reading abilities I can think of are mind-affecting.

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    Default Re: Dead Men Tell No Tales... [MitP II]

    I would say that Mind reading is by definition mind affecting.

    Very cool. For some reason the name makes me think of "Who watches the watchmen."
    "I have tasted the heat of many stars, and all of them were sweet."
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    Quis custodiet custodies?

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    Default Re: Dead Men Tell No Tales... [MitP II]

    This is a very interesting monster, Ice. I rather like it. As usual, though, I have a few minor things to point out.

    1) It's a 6 HD creature. It qualifies for 3 feats.

    2) Other then surreptitious touch (which is the watcher's incorporeal touch attack), you should specify whether these abilities are spell-like or supernatural abilities.

    3) I think that Steal Secret really needs to have a save DC for the original speaker of the secret in order for them to retain the secret.

    4) With the Invisibility ability, you might want to simply use the Natural Invisibility ability of the invisible stalker.

    Quote Originally Posted by SRD
    Natural Invisibility (Su): This ability is constant, allowing a stalker to remain invisible even when attacking. This ability is inherent and not subject to the invisibility purge spell.
    Which means it's also not subject to similar effects, like dispel magic.

    6) On a minor note, your BAB/Grp entry is messed up. ^_^

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    Default Re: Dead Men Tell No Tales... [MitP II]

    Well on the first one, I can never keep track of those things, guess I'll add em.

    secondly, I'll look at those and decide. it's (Sn) for supernatural right? Or am I totally wrong?

    Thrid, that is a good point, or it'd be pretty annoying...

    on #4, I dunno. I don't really want it to be invisible while attacking. Maybe when it attacks or deactivates the ability, it has to wait, say, 1d6 minutes before it can reactivate it.

    6(?) fixed.

    also, something I had forgotten to add: holder of secrets gives them an automatic +10 on all knowledge checks.
    Last edited by Icewalker; 2007-04-25 at 11:05 PM.

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    Yes, I went from #4 to #6. It's a fairly linear progression, completely ignoring that pesky #5. >_< I must have erased something. I don't remember what.

    Anyway, Supernatural is (Su) and Spell-like is (Sp).

    Save DCs are 10 + 1/2 the creature's racial HD + the relevant ability score modifier. Steal Secret would most likely be Charisma based, so it would be DC 18 normally. Grant it a +2 racial bonus on the ability (or ability focus as a feat), and you're good to go.

    For the invisibility thing, you'd don't have to go with the invisible stalker's exact wording. I think this would work:

    Natural Invisibility (Su): A watcher is naturally invisible at all times. If a watcher attacks, it becomes visible until 1 round after the watcher has stopped attacking. This ability is inherent and not subject to the invisibility purge spell.

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    War is peace
    Freedom is slavery
    Ignorance is strength
    -1984 by George Orwell

    " 'would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?'
    'That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,' said the Cat.
    'I don't much care where-' said Alice
    'Then it doesn't matter which way you go,' said the Cat."
    -Alice and The Cheshire Cat, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

    "The scale of color, unlike the scale of music, flows evenly from one side of the circular spectrum to the other. Although, one could say that the tone of music is the same sphere of sound, with the key of Indigo transposed into the key of Violet, then Magenta, Lavender, Crimson, Red, Vermilion, Amber… all the way until it glissandos from Blue back to Indigo…"
    -from the story Colorshock, by Hillary Milton

    "There are five things which are dangerous in generals: those who are ready to die can be killed; those who are intent on living can be captured; those who are quick to anger can be shamed; those who are puritanical can be disgraced; those who love people can be troubled. These five things are flaws in generals, disasters for military operations."
    -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? ... Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?"
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Think of it like milk. Except it comes from diseased orphans."
    -LoadingReadyRun sketch, Economic Stimulus

    "Our gold is living gold, and our silver is living silver, so that they can cause nothing but life and growth. Common gold and silver are dead."
    -Anonymous German philosopher, The Golden Tract in the alchemical collection The Hermetic Museum

    "Sometimes I think that the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." — Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes

    Cannon to right of them,
    Cannon to left of them,
    Cannon in front of them
    Volley'd and thunder'd;
    Storm'd at with shot and shell,
    Boldly they rode and well,
    Into the jaws of Death,
    Into the mouth of Hell
    Rode the six hundred.
    -The Charge of the Light Brigade, Alfred Tennyson

    “So, I can keep my bad-ass spirit free, and let my body be chained . . . Or I can chain my spirit and keep my body free?”
    “Yes. The choice is yours.”
    Daku stood up, in a defiant pose. “Screw my spirit, you’re hot. Let’s fight crime.”
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    Amanda: Darling, I believe you're talking nonsense.
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    -The Eternal (myself)

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    商君書 (The Book of Lord Shang), 商鞅

    If we shadows have offended,
    Think but this, and all is mended:
    That you have but slumb'red here,
    While these visions did appear.
    And this weak and idle theme,
    No more yielding, but a dream.
    Gentles, do not reprehend:
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    And as I am an honest Puck,
    If we have unearnèd luck
    Now to scape the serpents' tongue,
    We will make amends ere long;
    Else the Puck a liar call:
    So, good night unto you all.
    Give me your hands if we be friends,
    And Robin shall restore amends.
    -Robin Goodfellow in A Midsummer Night's Dream

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    After years spent as a captive."
    -The Sandman by Neil Gaiman

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    And then is heard no more. It is a tale
    old by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing."
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    -The Stolen Child by W. B. Yeats

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    -Albert Einstein

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    - Bjarne Stroustrup

    "How have you not gone insane?"
    "Oh, the voices tell me not to go crazy."
    -SMBC Theater

    "Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it; those who fail to learn history correctly - why they are simply doomed."
    -Achem Dro'hm, The Illusion of Historical Truth, CY 4971
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    "Humans say the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Why? Do they think there's a shortage of bad ones?"
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    "Adults are just obsolete children, and the hell with them."
    -Dr. Seuss

    "Officer, I did my duty. Now, you do yours."
    -Last words of Sam Davis, Confederate spy, when the Union officer hesitated to give the execution order.
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    Holder ofthe Secrets and Seeker of the Secrets would probably be Extraordinary abilities (Ex) now that I think about it. All of the others would be Supernatural.

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    I like this. Good mechanics and theme.
    It is a joyful thing indeed to hold intimate converse with a man after one’s own heart, chatting without reserve about things of interest or the fleeting topics of the world; but such, alas, are few and far between.

    – Yoshida Kenko (1283-1350), Tsurezure-Gusa (1340)

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