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    Hey I thought of something we could do for our next thread: GitP regulars as wondrous items.

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    Hey I thought of something we could do for our next thread: GitP regulars as wondrous items.
    Legendary weapons kind of ended up as that. Maybe we'll do items again soon.
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    Nobody should ever get in trouble for that.
    Legendary weapons kind of ended up as that. Maybe we'll do items again soon.
    Not really. It was weapons of legacy. I'm talking rings, cloaks, rods, etc. all kinds of useful stuff that aren't weapons.

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    Not really. It was weapons of legacy. I'm talking rings, cloaks, rods, etc. all kinds of useful stuff that aren't weapons.
    The last like 3 things made were rings, cloaks, etc. I'd actually like wondrous items, I could make someone into a bag of some sort.
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    The last like 3 things made were rings, cloaks, etc. I'd actually like wondrous items, I could make someone into a bag of some sort.
    or marlowe a exia style gunblade long sword 1d8 damage special ability transform turns in to wing less quick loading crowwbow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe View Post
    Hey! All that Mecha/CyberNewtype stuff was done by other people! They deserve credit! I play Sword Lesbian:
    Because hard work deserves a place.

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    Not really. It was weapons of legacy. I'm talking rings, cloaks, rods, etc. all kinds of useful stuff that aren't weapons.
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    The last like 3 things made were rings, cloaks, etc. I'd actually like wondrous items, I could make someone into a bag of some sort.
    Mrrr... fine. That's next.

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    or marlowe a exia style gunblade long sword 1d8 damage special ability transform turns in to wing less quick loading crowwbow
    Nah, Exia was probably the worst gundam design in recent memory. "Hey check it out! I'll carry this gunblade on my arm that stupidly heavy, but I'll leave it sheathed and pull out this knife, negating the reach advantage on the gunblade and the speed advantage of the smaller weapon because the whole gunblade is still on my arm."

    The shooty part of the gunblade was cool, though.
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    Mrrr... fine. That's next.



    Nah, Exia was probably the worst gundam design in recent memory. "Hey check it out! I'll carry this gunblade on my arm that stupidly heavy, but I'll leave it sheathed and pull out this knife, negating the reach advantage on the gunblade and the speed advantage of the smaller weapon because the whole gunblade is still on my arm."

    The shooty part of the gunblade was cool, though.
    well the funny thing is they have their in universe gundam girl who is one of the main heroes

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    The last like 3 things made were rings, cloaks, etc. I'd actually like wondrous items, I could make someone into a bag of some sort.
    Imagine it, a teleporting bag of incineration...

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    I thought we were gonna do templates. Oh well, I suppose items might be easier.
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    well the funny thing is they have their in universe gundam girl who is one of the main heroes
    Ugh, please don't remind me of that show. At least the build fighters before it was decent. This new one was all about being progressively worse at strategy, making worse mobile suits, and is powers by plot particles that run out to only leave your plot armor.
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    Fine. I give permission.

    As a bit of explanation, because I do actually know what these things are:

    Alternate Class Features- A suite of class features that replace specific class features at a specific level (or levels) on one class. Can be taken a la carte, meaning if you don't want to trade out your level 4 class feature, you don't have to.

    Archetypes- A suite of class features that replace multiple class features (or sometimes add new ones) on one class. Must all be taken together, meaning if you really like that 4th level ability on the core class but it gets traded away... well tough. Archetypes that trade away the same class features cannot be stacked, but if they don't trade away any overlapping features you're golden.

    Class Templates- Are Archetypes that can be applied to multiple classes. They're organized a bit differently, with each class' lost features detailed first, then the suite of abilities that they gain is detailed below (along with what level each class gains those abilities). Usually they include a number of options that the player can pick from to add to the class. Otherwise they follow the same rules about stacking that Archetypes do.

    Racial X- One of the above three choices that is limited to specific races. Usually humans have some sort of bull**** way of getting around the racial limitations, because humans are obviously the best race ever. Also usually, Half-X races qualify for Racial ACFs/Archetypes so long as their X matches the race of the ACF/Archetype.
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    Born of Blades (Varies, ACF)

    Replaces: This ability replaces a maneuvers known you would have gained, at the 3rd level or higher in an initiating class.

    Effect: You gain the ability to make a short-lived masterwork weapon as a swift action. This masterwork weapon lasts for a number of rounds equal to your Initiating Ability modifier (use Wis for Swordsage, Str for Warblade and Crusader), or your Constitution whichever is higher, and have hardness of 5 and 10 hp. Alternatively you may infuse a single unexpended and readied maneuver into the blade when you create it. The maneuver is expended and as long as the blade is formed you cannot recover that maneuver. While a maneuver is infused into the blade in this way it gains an enhancement bonus to attack and damage equal to 1/2 the maneuver's level (rounded up) and weapon enhancements equal to 1/2 the maneuver's level (rounded down) chosen when the maneuver was imbued, you may not choose Bane (or similar) weapon properties when imbuing a weapon. A weapon with a maneuver imbued into it gains +1 hardness and +3 hp per +1 enhancement bonus.
    Cool. Nice and straightforward. I also appreciate abilities that make sure you're never unarmed.

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    This replaced the druid's Animal Companion class feature.

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    This replaces the druid's Resist Nature's Lure class feature.
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    Zaydian Wildborn (Druid ACF)

    1st Level: Track
    The druid gains Track as a bonus feat.

    This replaced the druid's Animal Companion class feature.
    u wot

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    4th Level: Nature's Ally
    The druid gains the ranger's Animal Companion class feature. However, unlike the ranger, the druid is able to keep two constant animal companions.

    This replaces the druid's Resist Nature's Lure class feature.
    Oh. Icky half-scaling, do not like. I feel like this would be better if it just swapped RNL for Track at level 4 (Track isn't exactly a stellar feat, after all).

    Granted, it's for Zaydos, but I felt like my thoughts on it were worth mentioning.
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    Well mostly know you've got ToB in your sig, but I'll try and make something.

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    Oh. Icky half-scaling, do not like. I feel like this would be better if it just swapped RNL for Track at level 4 (Track isn't exactly a stellar feat, after all).
    It's not so bad in PF, where Rangers are only at Druid -3 and Boon companion bumps those right back up to druid level. Two Stegosauruses with improved vital strike and some size buffs are pretty nasty.

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    It's not so bad in PF, where Rangers are only at Druid -3 and Boon companion bumps those right back up to druid level. Two Stegosauruses with improved vital strike and some size buffs are pretty nasty.
    On the other hand, you can't have Friar Tuck, my Celestial Fleshraker that sworn a Vow of Poverty.
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    On the other hand, you can't have Friar Tuck, my Celestial Fleshraker that sworn a Vow of Poverty.
    That's quite the interesting concept. How'd you get around the fact that Fleshrakers regularly use poison?
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    Oh. Icky half-scaling, do not like. I feel like this would be better if it just swapped RNL for Track at level 4 (Track isn't exactly a stellar feat, after all).

    Zaydos likes animal companions...

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    It's not so bad in PF, where Rangers are only at Druid -3 and Boon companion bumps those right back up to druid level. Two Stegosauruses with improved vital strike and some size buffs are pretty nasty.
    Natural Bond boosts your effective druid level by 3 in 3.5, it's still not wonderful. But I can't justify giving up a so-so class feature to double your original lost class feature. That'd be silly.
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    Zaydian Wildborn (Druid ACF)

    1st Level: Track
    The druid gains Track as a bonus feat.

    This replaced the druid's Animal Companion class feature.
    Animal Companion

    4th Level: Nature's Ally
    The druid gains the ranger's Animal Companion class feature. However, unlike the ranger, the druid is able to keep two constant animal companions.

    This replaces the druid's Resist Nature's Lure class feature.
    Wait.. I see what you did there. I think. Either it's supposed to be an archetype and give you 2 animal companions with the level 4 thing, or it's an ACF where the first option is a trick and you just take the second so you have an animal companion and a second wimpy animal companion. Either one is actually pretty fun levels 4-14 especially since if you take the Natural Bond feat they remain within 1 level grade or even equal with a druid's.

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    Oh. Icky half-scaling, do not like. I feel like this would be better if it just swapped RNL for Track at level 4 (Track isn't exactly a stellar feat, after all).

    Granted, it's for Zaydos, but I felt like my thoughts on it were worth mentioning.
    It's a pair of ACFs not an archetype you can choose to take the 2nd without taking the first. So you swap Resist Nature's Lure for an Animal Companion. Ok, I think it was supposed to be an archetype which gives you 2 animal companions at 4th, Natural Bond brings them up to full level at 6th (and effectively full at 7 and 8) and it's not until 15th level that they start to slide further than 2 HD behind if you are willing to take a feat for it.
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    That's quite the interesting concept. How'd you get around the fact that Fleshrakers regularly use poison?
    He's celestial. He's automatically of the highest moral standard, and he granted himself the feat.
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    It's not so bad in PF, where Rangers are only at Druid -3 and Boon companion bumps those right back up to druid level. Two Stegosauruses with improved vital strike and some size buffs are pretty nasty.
    But, 3.5 has horrid tigers. I love horrid tigers. Imagine it, a ranger build with enough boosts to get a horrid tiger, that is also special mount and this one other thing that i can't remember. It was a horrifying animal companion.

    Edit: also, horrid animals, proof druids approve of genetic engineering.
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    Animal Companion
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    Wait.. I see what you did there. I think. Either it's supposed to be an archetype and give you 2 animal companions with the level 4 thing, or it's an ACF where the first option is a trick and you just take the second so you have an animal companion and a second wimpy animal companion.


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    Either one is actually pretty fun levels 4-14 especially since if you take the Natural Bond feat they remain within 1 level grade or even equal with a druid's.


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    It's a pair of ACFs not an archetype you can choose to take the 2nd without taking the first. So you swap Resist Nature's Lure for an Animal Companion. Ok, I think it was supposed to be an archetype which gives you 2 animal companions at 4th, Natural Bond brings them up to full level at 6th (and effectively full at 7 and 8) and it's not until 15th level that they start to slide further than 2 HD behind if you are willing to take a feat for it.
    All of this. I don't write Pathfinder things. It's like Beast Heart Adept, but without the complicated whosamawhatsits.
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    just curious, what anime is this from.

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    just curious, what anime is this from.
    I have no idea. I must go do research.

    One mooooore thing:
    I have no idea.
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    by garl glittergold, I think the top thousand results must just be will senpai notice me meme related stuff with no mention of where this is from, and the notice me senpai tag seems to override the picture in the search terms.

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    by garl glittergold, I think the top thousand results must just be will senpai notice me meme related stuff with no mention of where this is from, and the notice me senpai tag seems to override the picture in the search terms.

    Oh my god, it's Yuru Yuri! :p
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