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    All of this. I don't write Pathfinder things. It's like Beast Heart Adept, but without the complicated whosamawhatsits.
    I don't do PF either, but Unearthed Arcana did archetypes with it's alternate classes back near the beginning of 3.5, they just had a clunkier name and were less well codified and it's easy and convenient to use the term.
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    And i found that out with a little google-fu exercise. I need this now and again. Course i found out i could have ended my search 7 min early by refreshing this page.

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    He's celestial. He's automatically of the highest moral standard, and he granted himself the feat.
    Huh. After looking through a few relevant things (BoED, BoVD, Sandstorm), poison isn't called out as an evil act by RAW, it's just referred to as "usually evil" or something that most good creatures avoid. Carry on, I guess.
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    Huh. After looking through a few relevant things (BoED, BoVD, Sandstorm), poison isn't called out as an evil act by RAW, it's just referred to as "usually evil" or something that most good creatures avoid. Carry on, I guess.
    For some reason this doesn't sit well with me.
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    Huh. After looking through a few relevant things (BoED, BoVD, Sandstorm), poison isn't called out as an evil act by RAW, it's just referred to as "usually evil" or something that most good creatures avoid. Carry on, I guess.
    Uh huh. It's great because he's strong and smart.

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    Nope, it's beeyond me.

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    Huh. After looking through a few relevant things (BoED, BoVD, Sandstorm), poison isn't called out as an evil act by RAW, it's just referred to as "usually evil" or something that most good creatures avoid. Carry on, I guess.
    Actually, the standard set by the book of exalted deeds is pretty explicit. To quote page 34, "Using poison that deals ability damage is an evil act." However, setting an exception for a creature that must use such a weapon in the course of normal affairs, because it's natural, is a logical thing, and I seem to recall it being supported in the text somewhere. And, of course, there's also the fact that setting poison use as an intrinsically evil act is frigging stupid. I mean, jeez, somehow casters manage to cast the poison spell all the time without its ability damaging effects registering as evil, and I could trivially point to a pile of similar examples of weird inconsistencies of that rule. Allowing this sort of thing should be the baseline by my reckoning, at least for natural poison.

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    How am I always the bad guy?! My alignment is Lawful Good!
    Not everyone has the fortitude to sit through an extended lecture including the finer points on how to appropriately tip your waitress/waiter.

    edit: I think I know why Red Fel left. We were giving this paladin here too much attention and ignoring the little guy.
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    How am I always the bad guy?! My alignment is Lawful Good!
    Actually how is it, that you manage to be the second most bad person here?

    *looks meaningful at little miss chaos-forgery*
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    Ugh... I kind of want it to be winter already, because Blade & Soul is coming out then.
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    Ugh... I kind of want it to be winter already, because Blade & Soul is coming out then.


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    Actually how is it, that you manage to be the second most bad person here?

    *looks meaningful at little miss chaos-forgery*
    I'm not thaaat bad. I mean look at LP, he's a paladin.

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    Silence you!! I will not go back to freezing my rear end off !!
    Come now, the deep winter cold is nice and inviting. Just relax and immerse yourself as you slowly lose feeling and the cold quietly and slowly saps your strength. You will slowly fade into the blackness of death slow, inevitable and mostly painless. Unless you struggle, in that case your strength rapidly decreases, you might black out and you won't even be able to see the end coming. Cold is brilliant that way and why it is the best energy element. Sadly fire just has so many uses.
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    I'm not thaaat bad. I mean look at LP, he's a paladin.
    It's so much harder to stop the Auditors from having the universe canceled and take over the company while I'm at it with you constantly forging things.
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    It's so much harder to stop the Auditors from having the universe canceled and take over the company while I'm at it with you constantly forging things.
    For the auditors to take over their paperwork would have to survive.

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    For the auditors to take over their paperwork would have to survive.
    I'm trying to take over. They're trying to kill Santa and cancel the universe.
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    I'm trying to take over. They're trying to kill Santa and cancel the universe.
    lies and slander, everyone knows santa claws is trying to kill everyone else.

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    lies and slander, everyone knows santa claws is trying to kill everyone else.
    He remains our main defense against cancellation of the series, it might be his paradox-absorbing crumple zones. So what all are we referencing at this point? 1984 and victory chocolate, Thief of Time with chocolate killing auditors, The Hogfather with auditors trying to kill Santa as the first step to destroying the world, and Futurama, I'm sure there are more I'm forgetting.
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    He remains our main defense against cancellation of the series, it might be his paradox-absorbing crumple zones. So what all are we referencing at this point? 1984 and victory chocolate, Thief of Time with chocolate killing auditors, The Hogfather with auditors trying to kill Santa as the first step to destroying the world, and Futurama, I'm sure there are more I'm forgetting.
    we are giantitp, we reference everything to optimize the plot in the most convoluted way we can think of.

    edit: we are far worse than any movie writer or tv writer i can think of.
    edit2: I take that back I can think of one thing that is at least as convoluted. Faction Paradox from the Doctor Who universe.
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    we are giantitp, we reference everything to optimize the plot in the most convoluted way we can think of.

    edit: we are far worse than any movie writer or tv writer i can think of.
    edit2: I take that back I can think of one thing that is at least as convoluted. Faction Paradox from the Doctor Who universe.
    Eh, the plot here is far less convoluted than ASoIaF, or most of Whedon's, or since I've been watching it later seasons of SG-1, and actually less full of references.

    Edit: And now I almost want to run a game where the PCs are an evil consortium which rules the world... and now must protect it from the horrors that come from beyond. Probably put the PCs as the highest level characters in an otherwise E6 setting (no one else is higher than 6th level), or at least among the highest level characters (maybe the evil consortium would have some higher level ones in it). Alternatively the PCs are members of an otherworldly evil theocratic empire which have conquered the world and must now defend it from the forces of their gods' arch nemesis Jeanne.
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    Eh, the plot here is far less convoluted than ASoIaF, or most of Whedon's, or since I've been watching it later seasons of SG-1, and actually less full of references.
    SG-1 never seemed complicated at all to me.

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    SG-1 never seemed complicated at all to me.
    Complicated, no, convoluted yes. Mostly due to continuity and stagnation.

    Also I hate the season without Daniel.

    Edit: Also note this situation is pretty simple.
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    Complicated, no, convoluted yes. Mostly due to continuity and stagnation.

    Also I hate the season without Daniel.

    Edit: Also note this situation is pretty simple.
    ???

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    I am not sure i follow you.

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    ???

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    I am not sure i follow you.
    While the plots of individual episodes were fairly straight forward what was actually going on got folded over and over again with things like Anubis being half-way an ascended being, the whole Daniel thing, etc. At least as convoluted as this which is actually pretty simple (evil corporation, a little bit of attempts at a coup, and Terry Pratchett references).
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    Come now, the deep winter cold is nice and inviting. Just relax and immerse yourself as you slowly lose feeling and the cold quietly and slowly saps your strength. You will slowly fade into the blackness of death slow, inevitable and mostly painless. Unless you struggle, in that case your strength rapidly decreases, you might black out and you won't even be able to see the end coming. Cold is brilliant that way and why it is the best energy element. Sadly fire just has so many uses.
    I just got done retraining Cold Endurance for Heat Endurance and i am not gonna start the process of reversing that for at least 4 months!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydos View Post
    While the plots of individual episodes were fairly straight forward what was actually going on got folded over and over again with things like Anubis being half-way an ascended being, the whole Daniel thing, etc. At least as convoluted as this which is actually pretty simple (evil corporation, a little bit of attempts at a coup, and Terry Pratchett references).
    It's not an evil corporation though. It is a corporation comprised of splintered and often competing factions, and apparently has had baby corporations for various reasons.

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    I just got done retraining Cold Endurance for Heat Endurance and i am not gonna start the process of reversing that for at least 4 months!
    you don't need cold endurance to feel the slow, sweet, comforting caress of death via cold. In fact it sounds rather counter productive.
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    Tell your lil' sister that that looks damn nice. Tell her I said it needs more spiffy uniforms, swords, or giant robots, but tell her that that's the sort of thing I would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe View Post
    Tell your lil' sister that that looks damn nice. Tell her I said it needs more spiffy uniforms, swords, or giant robots, but tell her that that's the sort of thing I would say.
    LP, direct her to my picture of the catgirl hussar...

    Tell her to make 200,000 the old fashioned way. I'm behind schedule.
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    It's not an evil corporation though. It is a corporation comprised of splintered and often competing factions, and apparently has had baby corporations for various reasons.
    We're a negligent parent with how rarely those get mentioned. Still more straightforward than figuring how the NID avoided getting taking apart after their blackmail material was leaked.

    Actually... wait are we the NID's parent company? Whose bid for power was that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaydos View Post
    We're a negligent parent with how rarely those get mentioned. Still more straightforward than figuring how the NID avoided getting taking apart after their blackmail material was leaked.

    Actually... wait are we the NID's parent company? Whose bid for power was that?
    well, they are a civilian company that steals random technology for often destructive purposes... so it might be a shell company or an attempted splinter group for NeoPhoenix Chaos Corp. It is hard to keep track of these things. I don't care as long as they preform chaos properly, otherwise i'm going to have to inject some of my own brand of chaos in there.
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