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    As a bit of explanation, because I do actually know what these things are:
    No one knows what they are. It says so in the OP. It's always right. If you know what they are that means you don't exist.
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    Awesome! I didn't even see this yet! Thank you!

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    Awesome! I didn't even see this yet! Thank you!
    You're perma-permissioned, hon. It's because you're so good at flirting.


    Actually, no, and I have no idea why you're paladin ACF flirts.
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    Actually, no, and I have no idea why you're paladin ACF flirts.
    Because he explains not having Sense Motive ranks with getting all his information from having a high charisma and barmaids.
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    You're perma-permissioned, hon. It's because you're so good at flirting.
    I knew you liked it~


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    Actually, no, and I have no idea why you're paladin ACF flirts.
    I thought it was perfect. I was super please haha. I need this for Vincent.

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    Because he explains not having Sense Motive ranks with getting all his information from having a high charisma and barmaids.
    This too.
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    Because he explains not having Sense Motive ranks with getting all his information from having a high charisma and barmaids.
    Officially, flirting is bluff based. Thanks, Swashbuckler ACF.
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    I knew you liked it~
    Oh, yes I found it very flattering.

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    And hey he got two, one of them doesn't require flirting, it involves shooting... Or did I fail to post that?

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    Officially, flirting is bluff based. Thanks, Swashbuckler ACF.
    Do I look like I understand flirting? I might have been working off half remembered bits of Dragon #299 which iirc differentiated duplicitous flirting (bluff) and forthright flirting (diplomacy).
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    And hey he got two, one of them doesn't require flirting, it involves shooting... Or did I fail to post that?
    Yeah, but LP hasn't tried to shoot me yet. Then again, I don't know about you guys...

    Do I look like I understand flirting?
    Judging by our last interaction, no you don't. :p

    Though it's cool to hear you talk about old DnD stuff. I started in 3.5, so I don't know about 2nd edition ADnD or anything before that.
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    This one is for Snowbluff, or more correctly his stream of terrifying anime chicks.

    Bardic ACF:Advocate of War

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    1st level: My friends, it has often been said of me that I like war: A Bard with at least 4 ranks in Perform (oratory), Perform (sing), or Perform (poetics) may, as a move action, add the effect of any or all known Advocate of War Bardic Music effects to a previously started Inspire Courage Performance without interrupting the original performance. At level 6, this become a swift action, at level 12 a free action.

    Replaces Countersong.

    3rd level: No, friends, I love war: A Bard with at least 6 ranks in Perform (oratory), Perform (sing), or Perform (poetics) may use this ability to increase the effect of their Inspire Courage by 1.

    Replaces Inspire Competence.

    6th level: I said, Kneel.: A Bard at least 9 ranks in Perform (oratory), Perform (sing), or Perform (poetics) may work this effect into their Inspire Courage performance. In addition to bolstering their allies, the Bards performance now causes all enemies within 30 not immune to Fear to take a Will save (DC 13+Chr modifier) or become Shaken. the save is repeated each round the enemy continues to hear the Bard. An enemy already Shaken may become Frightened and an enemy already Frightened may become Panicked.

    Replaces Suggestion.

    9th level: Let the thunder be the sound of our voices, and the lightning the sheen of our spears: A Bard with at least 12 ranks in Perform (oratory), Perform (sing), or Perform (poetics) may work this effect into their Inspire Courage performance. All allies within range of IC may add the Bards Charisma modifier to damage rolls, and may reroll all failed Will saves.

    Replaces Inspire Greatness.

    12th level: Don't you understand? I'm very tired: A Bard with at least 15 ranks in Perform (oratory), Perform (sing), or Perform (poetics) may work this effect into their Inspire Courage performance. All allies within range of IC become immune to fatigue, death effects, ability damage or drain, level drain, and fear.

    Replaces Song of Freedom

    15th level: They're dead. Let's get the living home. A Bard with at least 18 ranks in Perform (oratory), Perform (sing), or Perform (poetics) may work this effect into their Inspire Courage performance. The Fear effect now effects Undead, Constructs, and other creatures normally immune to Mind-effecting abilities. The Will save DC increases to DC 18+Bards Charisma modifier.

    Replaces Inspire Heroics

    18th level: The memory of our might shall be forever be etched in your minds. A Bard with at least 21 ranks in Perform (oratory), Perform (sing), or Perform (poetics) may work this effect into their Inspire Courage performance. All allies within range receive an extra standard action each turn.

    Replaces Mass Suggestion

    The Bard himself is effected by all the preceding effects as if he were his own ally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe View Post
    This one is for Snowbluff, or more correctly his stream of terrifying anime chicks.
    Oh geez, thanks for reminding me about that video

    Nice ACF, too. The 18th level ability is a bit broken but I'm assuming it's for 3.5 bard so whatever.

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    Oh geez, thanks for reminding me about that video

    Nice ACF, too. The 18th level ability is a bit broken but I'm assuming it's for 3.5 bard so whatever.
    What would you recommend instead? The only experience I've ever had at that level was a ridiculous thing laden with horribly broken free LA-RHD characters that didn't really teach me much of anything. I was a Yuan-Ti sorceress and spent almost all my time polymorphed/Shapechanged into a Dragon ferrying around the other characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe View Post
    What would you recommend instead? The only experience I've ever had at that level was a ridiculous thing laden with horribly broken free LA-RHD characters that didn't really teach me much of anything. I was a Yuan-Ti sorceress and spent almost all my time polymorphed/Shapechanged into a Dragon ferrying around the other characters.
    High level D&D gets crazy like that. Hence the "so whatever". Access to all-day 3.0 haste is really strong but anyone who wants to break action economy probably did so much earlier than 18th level
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    Officially, flirting is bluff based. Thanks, Swashbuckler ACF.
    Oh, yes I found it very flattering.

    But that's more my ego than your ability.
    I feel like it should be diplomacy.

    Bahaha.

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    And hey he got two, one of them doesn't require flirting, it involves shooting... Or did I fail to post that?
    I meant to quote both. I want to TAKE both. Haha.

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    Do I look like I understand flirting? I might have been working off half remembered bits of Dragon #299 which iirc differentiated duplicitous flirting (bluff) and forthright flirting (diplomacy).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbluff View Post
    Judging by our last interaction, no you don't. :p

    Though it's cool to hear you talk about old DnD stuff. I started in 3.5, so I don't know about 2nd edition ADnD or anything before that.
    I know as well as I need to.

    My uncle gave me and my brother the Red Box when I was little so I've been playing since I was 6. I've actually played mostly 3.5 but I grew up reading the 2e books for sheer love of it. Planescape was my favorite.

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    Have you used Detect Evil on me recently? You might have a conflict of code in there.

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    Have you used Detect Evil on me recently? You might have a conflict of code in there.


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    I grant permission. I suck at rules, but I am happy to see myself turned into an ACF or racial or whatever.

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    Part of me wants to make a planetouched racial archetype for Marlowe.... but for which class....
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    for treats sake Emperor Tippy perma permission from previous elder evil treat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbluff View Post
    No one knows what they are. It says so in the OP. It's always right. If you know what they are that means you don't exist.
    Yes, yes that's all well and good but for stuff like this that's particularly crunchy and a fair amount of work it does help newer members of the thread to have some idea of what the task at hand is.

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    We can go to my favorite bar. You know. The one in Sigil.

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    Yes, yes, people can learn things. Although I have a hard time imagining anyone new showing interest in 3.x.
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    This one is for Snowbluff, or more correctly his stream of terrifying anime chicks.

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    Nice ACF, too. The 18th level ability is a bit broken but I'm assuming it's for 3.5 bard so whatever.
    Well, PF bard sucks pretty bad. It's like playing the 3.5 bard without all of the insanely awesome options for spellcasters and bards. So having something insanely awesome to do would be good.
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    You've got to know when to hold 'em.
    Know when to fold 'em!
    Know when to walk away.
    And know when to run.

    Which I am now realizing isn't very paladin like.
    2nd-rate villain is trying to Bluff his way out - go all in
    Lord is asking you to protect a murderer on his way to trial - let it go and do the job
    2nd-rate villain gives up and turns himself over - stop fighting, take him in
    1st-rate villain summons a group of demons - retreat and wait for backup

    Oh, his bardness illyahr grants permission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbluff View Post
    Yes, yes, people can learn things. Although I have a hard time imagining anyone new showing interest in 3.x.
    Not everyone is familiar with everything in 3.5 or PF. Not everyone on these boards has years of experience homebrewing, hell I don't even have years of experience writing homebrew and I get paid to write this stuff.

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    :s


    Quote Originally Posted by illyahr View Post
    2nd-rate villain is trying to Bluff his way out - go all in
    Lord is asking you to protect a murderer on his way to trial - let it go and do the job
    2nd-rate villain gives up and turns himself over - stop fighting, take him in
    1st-rate villain summons a group of demons - retreat and wait for backup
    Haha.

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    Not everyone on these boards has years of experience homebrewing, hell I don't even have years of experience writing homebrew and I get paid to write this stuff.
    I think a lot of people get into 3.x because people (like me) pull them into it. A group of my sister's friends asked me to DM for them, and I used 3.x.
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    I give permission if anyone's interested !
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